Trinity's well of life: Not useful?

[MooMoo517]

Just something to note, Trinity's newest state is pretty well done, but the well of life ability seems useless because of the existence of her Blessing ability. Most allies focus on shields than health, and most allies will ask you to "Bless" them rather than to use well of life. Can well of life be buffed, or replaced with a different ability? Post your thoughts here as to why or why not.

[Space Dragon]

at least you are honest.

[Dusklite]

Originally posted by I GOT A LITTLE ♥♥♥♥:

(...)Can well of life be buffed, or replaced with a different ability?(...)

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Pool_of_Life
If that's useful to you, however... matter of taste, I guess.

[Serverus]

Originally posted by Dusklite:

Originally posted by I GOT A LITTLE ♥♥♥♥:

(...)Can well of life be buffed, or replaced with a different ability?(...)

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Pool_of_Life
If that's useful to you, however... matter of taste, I guess.

Here are the problems with that, though:

1. It's basically the same thing as Desecrate, but it takes-up a mod slot.
   
2. It goes with what OP said: Why use Well of Life when you can just use Blessing? Why bother with health (and a chance for energy orbs) when you can just use Blessing and spam Energy Vampire?

The only use i can see for Well of Life at this point is as a CC ability... assuming you modded for a decent amount of duration. Otherwise, it's completely out-dated.

[Dusklite]

Originally posted by ^1ETI|^9CrackerNugget:

Originally posted by Dusklite:

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Pool_of_Life
If that's useful to you, however... matter of taste, I guess.

Here are the problems with that, though:

1. It's basically the same thing as Desecrate, but it takes-up a mod slot.
   
2. It goes with what OP said: Why use Well of Life when you can just use Blessing? Why bother with health (and a chance for energy orbs) when you can just use Blessing and spam Energy Vampire?

The only use i can see for Well of Life at this point is as a CC ability... assuming you modded for a decent amount of duration. Otherwise, it's completely out-dated.

Well, I wasn't saying it is useful, was I?

But for the sake of argument: it being the same as Desecrate is nonsense. Enemies will drop four health orbs in addition to the Well of Life effect with an additional 1:4 chance of an extra energy orb for a quarter of the energy cost of a Blessing.
That can be useful, especially when you play in a constructed team with friends/clan members. You basically put a health reserve on the ground and if you and your team members all pack an Equilibrium that's also additional energy which can act as a failsafe if your energy is drained and you can't cast Energy Vampire/Blessing anymore.
Even if it was basically a Desecrate, you don't need to take another Nekros for its effect in the team, so that's an extra. It's not really logically viable to compare one augment of a skill with the skill of a whole different Warframe...

I personally think the augment is not worth the slot, but there are advantages and disadvantages to be considered. One scenario I would really see use of that augment is in high-tier Infestation endless missions, when you have issues getting enough energy because a bunch of Parasitic Eximi are hiding somewhere in the chaos and are draining most of it. Combined with the constant small health damage of all the toxins and an Equilibrium mod, this can turn into said energy and health fail-safe in addition to Energy Vampire. (The health damage lets you pick the orbs up very quickly.)

edit: then again, this is assuming that you can actually kill anything under the effect of WoL in high-level Infested missions, so there's that... yeah. In theory it could work, though. If WoL itself wasn't so... ungh.

[retroquark]

Mm. What's useful about it is the low energy cost. So if you have rage, vitality, and melee-block in a pinch - or just have energy siphon in the team - or probably more typically, that you see one energy orb in the middle of a field of eximus. Then you can still cast well of life. It's not as universally useful as simply taking some punishment when having rage equipped and casting link. Or using an energy supply, etc. But if you play games where you don't have an endless supply of enemies, many poison procs and drains that are difficult to kill off really quickly, etc., then well of life can be useful. At low level-missions with low-level frames, this actually happens a lot - you get drained, there aren't too many pickups, and you're attacked by things that manage to hit through the shields, and so on. High-level missions - often useful for melee-characters in your party. But agree that the augment isn't worth the slot. It would have to be something like a burst similar to the ancient healer, or something like that.

[MooMoo517]

Hmm. Good points. What would you recommend to take place of WOL?

[Ivara Ara]

Originally posted by I GOT A LITTLE ♥♥♥♥:

Hmm. Good points. What would you recommend to take place of WOL?

Honestly it is all matter of taste, whenever i use my Trinity i rarely use the WoL. It really depends on what you want from your Trinity.

[MooMoo517]

Well, there is a good difference between preference and actual use. WOL isnt very useful in higher ranks, as said before, because everybody focuses on shields and not health. Even so, people usually hold some sort of healing mod somewhere in their loadout. I was thinking of a few ways to buff the ability:
1. When hurting the WOL target, it can replenish your shields if you already have your health all taken care of.
2. To an extent of that, hurting the WOL target may give you overshield if enough damage is given to the target to the point where it surpasses your shield capacity.
3. Replace the ability, and make an ability where marking a teammate (with an orb) will heal them in a fast regeneration.

[Ivara Ara]

Originally posted by I GOT A LITTLE ♥♥♥♥:

Well, there is a good difference between preference and actual use. WOL isnt very useful in higher ranks, as said before, because everybody focuses on shields and not health. Even so, people usually hold some sort of healing mod somewhere in their loadout. I was thinking of a few ways to buff the ability:
1. When hurting the WOL target, it can replenish your shields if you already have your health all taken care of.
2. To an extent of that, hurting the WOL target may give you overshield if enough damage is given to the target to the point where it surpasses your shield capacity.
3. Replace the ability, and make an ability where marking a teammate (with an orb) will heal them in a fast regeneration.

I really don't see why you bother ''what do you guys recommend'' when you OBVIOUSLY answer yourself. The skill itself is useful, not great, but useful.

[MooMoo517]

The point is to hear what you guys would like for Trinity's WOL replacement/buff. Just sharing mine.

[Alessandro Silva]

Pool of life is redundant with Blessing and if you use the ability augment it becomes redundant with Energy Vampire too. It's indeed a very poorly designed ability.

[RunForRest]

Am i really the only one using WOL and EV combo to take down tougher enemies? I know a gun is most times faster but on really tough enemies it can help alot (altough is wish that kind of stuff would be more common in normal gameplay - thats why i think ALL damage in the game - especially weapons should be nerfed)

[MooMoo517]

Oh, that combo? yeah, her abilities have some interesting affects. That WOL and EV combo is just odd, but super powerful.