opinions on xaku?

[⎛⎝Sharkestry⎠⎞]

do you like playing as them?

[Ataraxia ♥]

Xaku is amazing, I love their kit and the fact they are identified as they consistently. Feels nice to have a frame that matches my gender identity.

Pretty hyped for their deluxe skin.

[⎛⎝Sharkestry⎠⎞]

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Incidentally, Xaku is the first nonbinary frame! DE consistently refers to Xaku with "they" and "them" pronouns. It's nice to see some enby representation in Warframe.

how is incorrect grammar anything meaningful? They and them are plurals. A singular frame is one, and requires a singular pronoun. "It" works, as its a machine, not exactly alive (the WF lore does blur the lines of alive or not, but our personal frames seem to be not alive apart from excal umbra). This isnt any sort of anti-anything post, mind you; I am against mutilation of the language in this way but have no problem with your whatever sexual robot or whatever IRL situation. Or, simply put, IRL, is it ok to call an individual a them? Hey look, its Riley, them is my friend!

someone else already told you that it's gramatically correct to use they/them pronouns on singular people but for what it's worth xaku is literally several broken warframes at once so your "arguments" don't even work on that front either

[Z3pHyr]

How come asking question about xaku come to talk about grammar and some world views? since it already come to this i would like to comment about it too.

If anything, Xaku being called as "They" by DE is because the lore is literally showing it's "They" become as one. So it doesn't represent any non-binary or whatever made up name or pronounce some people think like what happening IRL. In this case it's the opposite of Xaku. When in fact the BIOLOGICAL FACTS and simple observation show its something as one to become "They".

It just a problem with their mind, simply as someone who can accept who they are.

[Midas]

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How come asking question about xaku come to talk about grammar and some world views? since it already come to this i would like to comment about it too.

If anything, Xaku being called as "They" by DE is because the lore is literally showing it's "They" become as one. So it doesn't represent any non-binary or whatever made up name or pronounce some people think like what happening IRL. In this case it's the opposite of Xaku. When in fact the BIOLOGICAL FACTS and simple observation show its something as one to become "They".

It just a problem with their mind, simply as someone who can accept who they are.

Yeah, DE totally didn't add Xaku as a non-binary warframe intentionally, it's just a coincidence lmao

[DLOZanma]

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How come asking question about xaku come to talk about grammar and some world views? since it already come to this i would like to comment about it too.

If anything, Xaku being called as "They" by DE is because the lore is literally showing it's "They" become as one. So it doesn't represent any non-binary or whatever made up name or pronounce some people think like what happening IRL. In this case it's the opposite of Xaku. When in fact the BIOLOGICAL FACTS and simple observation show its something as one to become "They".

It just a problem with their mind, simply as someone who can accept who they are.

Yeah, DE totally didn't add Xaku as a non-binary warframe intentionally, it's just a coincidence lmao

Yeah haha Equinox's original status doesn't exist lmao

[Midas]

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Yeah, DE totally didn't add Xaku as a non-binary warframe intentionally, it's just a coincidence lmao

Yeah haha Equinox's original status doesn't exist lmao

I figured Equinox was the first pass at doing that, since she's got androgynous elements, but is confirmed to be strictly female. Xaku, they went all in. Even on the dev side, Xaku is 'they'.

[TheMetalCorpser]

The reason they say "they" towards Xaku is because it's a Frankenstein's monster of frames that were damaged beyond recognition and then slapped together into one new disfigured frame.

Just so everyone is clear here the frames we use in-game are not the originals. The originals were made from humans being melded with the infestation. The frames we use were made at our workbench which means they're cheap fakes. Excalibur Umbra is the only exception there.

EDIT: In regards to using them I'm not into using Xaku right now until a prime gets released because I don't like wasting formas on non-prime anything.

[Z3pHyr]

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Yeah haha Equinox's original status doesn't exist lmao

I figured Equinox was the first pass at doing that, since she's got androgynous elements, but is confirmed to be strictly female. Xaku, they went all in. Even on the dev side, Xaku is 'they'.

Agree, if anything Equinox is clearly being represent as "Female" so that it. The androgynous is just an expression and what she can switch to look like. the normal version look like that but prime version look clearly showing it's a female.

[Rho]

On topic, I don't like Xaku cuz it doesn't fit my playstyle. I prefer Wisp.
I think the concept is interesting because it came from a place of scorn when the community suggested a broken warframe to match the broken content/updates.

[Midas]

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The reason they say "they" towards Xaku is because it's a Frankenstein's monster of frames that were damaged beyond recognition and then slapped together into one new disfigured frame.

Just so everyone is clear here the frames we use in-game are not the originals. The originals were made from humans being melded with the infestation. The frames we use were made at our workbench which means they're cheap fakes. Excalibur Umbra is the only exception there.

EDIT: In regards to using them I'm not into using Xaku right now until a prime gets released because I don't like wasting formas on non-prime anything.

That would be true if we couldn't make prime frames, but we can. The helminth is integrated into the orbiter, and the foundry can work with organic components. I don't think anything in the lore has ever suggested that other warframes aren't organic, or that they could even function as warframes if they deviated too far from the original scheme of a helminth-infested human shaped into a warframe. What we make in the foundry is presumably more like a clone, lacking whatever key characteristics made the original people ideal candidates for their respective frames.

[TheMetalCorpser]

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That would be true if we couldn't make prime frames, but we can. The helminth is integrated into the orbiter, and the foundry can work with organic components. I don't think anything in the lore has ever suggested that other warframes aren't organic, or that they could even function as warframes if they deviated too far from the original scheme of a helminth-infested human shaped into a warframe. What we make in the foundry is presumably more like a clone, lacking whatever key characteristics made the original people ideal candidates for their respective frames.

I was talking about non-prime frames. Even the primed ones we use are manufactured from our workbenches using parts gained from relics. It's not the original frames made from humans being melded with infestation but cheap knock-offs. Just think of how the real Atlas destroyed an asteroid with a punch. Our Atlas, prime or not, has no where near that much destructive power. Could just be lore and gameplay reasons mashing in a bad way but it'd be pretty damn stupid for DE to claim we're making organic bodies without consciousness from our workbenches.

Anyways this thread isn't about that. If you want to talk about it more send me direct messages on Steam or start a new thread about it.

[DLOZanma]

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Yeah haha Equinox's original status doesn't exist lmao

I figured Equinox was the first pass at doing that, since she's got androgynous elements, but is confirmed to be strictly female. Xaku, they went all in. Even on the dev side, Xaku is 'they'.

Of course it is, it's multiple frames.

[Midas]

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I figured Equinox was the first pass at doing that, since she's got androgynous elements, but is confirmed to be strictly female. Xaku, they went all in. Even on the dev side, Xaku is 'they'.

Of course it is, it's multiple frames.

Yes, it's a great way to add a non-binary warframe and reduce the amount of bellyaching over pronouns.

[[88th] ColPresumptuous]

When they came out I basically levelled then ditched them they were that bad, and im the kind of player who plays a new frame pretty much 100% until the next frame comes out... gave them a spin a month back for no real reason and I was running 30 minute SP survivals solo without any real problems at all.

The shield and armor stripping aoe at 100% reduction, along with grasp and your killing things almost instantly by the dozens without even aiming at anything, the only thing you really have to shoot by hand is nullifiers.

Then Revenant Prime came out and I moved back to using them 100% (still the tankiest tank that ever tanked). Xakus great, and worth it... which they sure as hell werent at the beginning.