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Nidus seems really frail now
It's been a while since I've played him, and man he gets cut down quick in Level 50 areas now. What did they do to him?
Originally posted by RNG_Wizard:
Nidus just hasn't aged well with the changes Warframe has gotten. He's mostly reliant on raw hp with a bit of hp regen, armor and damage reduction to keep him alive, but hp tanking has gotten less viable over time.

Shield gating was added which is probably the most reliable form of survival, and Nidus is completely unable to benefit from it. Plus content has been pushing into higher level territories with Steel Path, Archon Hunts, The Circuit, Deep Archimedia and even 1999 being higher level content, all of which makes health tanking less viable.

Nidus has gotten some tools to help here and there, but his durability doesn't keep up with modern tank frames that shield gate or generate tens of thousands of overguard.
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Nidus has not had any 'real' changes to gameplay since 2022, and those were changes to his augments. Not even nerfs - buffs. The only things removed from Nidus were framedrops and the occasional crash that he could cause.

Not going to argue that the game might've changed, but DE 'doing anything' to Nidus is not the problem.
Daniel Jan 9 @ 4:45pm 
Outdated, plenty of warframes need changes, hope they buff them as they did with Nyx and Trinity recently.
Xarian Jan 9 @ 4:51pm 
Are you using any actual tank mods and/or arcanes on him?
TheTool Jan 9 @ 5:19pm 
Nidus live forever.
Phares Jan 9 @ 6:37pm 
Probably because enemies are balanced around frames having a shieldgate
tv Jan 9 @ 6:45pm 
no armor?
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Nidus just hasn't aged well with the changes Warframe has gotten. He's mostly reliant on raw hp with a bit of hp regen, armor and damage reduction to keep him alive, but hp tanking has gotten less viable over time.

Shield gating was added which is probably the most reliable form of survival, and Nidus is completely unable to benefit from it. Plus content has been pushing into higher level territories with Steel Path, Archon Hunts, The Circuit, Deep Archimedia and even 1999 being higher level content, all of which makes health tanking less viable.

Nidus has gotten some tools to help here and there, but his durability doesn't keep up with modern tank frames that shield gate or generate tens of thousands of overguard.
Obby Jan 9 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by UnlivingEnd:
It's been a while since I've played him, and man he gets cut down quick in Level 50 areas now. What did they do to him?
Im assuming when you last played, shield was useless and health was the way to go, and the modding meta has kinda completely 180'ed around the other way now
Originally posted by RNG_Wizard:
Nidus just hasn't aged well with the changes Warframe has gotten. He's mostly reliant on raw hp with a bit of hp regen, armor and damage reduction to keep him alive, but hp tanking has gotten less viable over time.

Shield gating was added which is probably the most reliable form of survival, and Nidus is completely unable to benefit from it. Plus content has been pushing into higher level territories with Steel Path, Archon Hunts, The Circuit, Deep Archimedia and even 1999 being higher level content, all of which makes health tanking less viable.

Nidus has gotten some tools to help here and there, but his durability doesn't keep up with modern tank frames that shield gate or generate tens of thousands of overguard.

To be fair, HP tanking is still absolutely fine for anything considered 'end game' today. Lavos is my personal fav pick for a lot of this sort of content. HP tanks usually do fine until you hit around 500 or higher, and that's when they start to feel more pressure, but are still just fine.

The largest stigma today I see is that people continually point to level cap content and say that's end game, but realistically the game's just not balanced around it.

The second biggest issue is that half the time, people expect that having a ton of hp is fine without investing in their armor stat, but the two go hand-in-hand.

Shield-gating is just easier to build around with the augur mods and the like, so health tanking just isn't as favorable anymore.
Originally posted by Iechinok:
Originally posted by RNG_Wizard:
Nidus just hasn't aged well with the changes Warframe has gotten. He's mostly reliant on raw hp with a bit of hp regen, armor and damage reduction to keep him alive, but hp tanking has gotten less viable over time.

Shield gating was added which is probably the most reliable form of survival, and Nidus is completely unable to benefit from it. Plus content has been pushing into higher level territories with Steel Path, Archon Hunts, The Circuit, Deep Archimedia and even 1999 being higher level content, all of which makes health tanking less viable.

Nidus has gotten some tools to help here and there, but his durability doesn't keep up with modern tank frames that shield gate or generate tens of thousands of overguard.

To be fair, HP tanking is still absolutely fine for anything considered 'end game' today. Lavos is my personal fav pick for a lot of this sort of content. HP tanks usually do fine until you hit around 500 or higher, and that's when they start to feel more pressure, but are still just fine.

The largest stigma today I see is that people continually point to level cap content and say that's end game, but realistically the game's just not balanced around it.

The second biggest issue is that half the time, people expect that having a ton of hp is fine without investing in their armor stat, but the two go hand-in-hand.

Shield-gating is just easier to build around with the augur mods and the like, so health tanking just isn't as favorable anymore.
Unfortunately not I have plenty of armor on him and it doesn’t make much of a difference.
tv Jan 10 @ 7:45am 
buddy, use armor and start overgaurd gating
Sceles Jan 10 @ 8:19am 
No, he doesn't. He actually takes less damage than around when he was released because many enemies have been nerfed(techs, napalms, ballistas, glaxion capture targets, etc), also frame armor no longer has weaknesses and we got armor shards and mods like adaptation.
Egro Jan 10 @ 8:26am 
Nidus need at least 900 armor to survive Eximus swarms. :lunar2019deadpanpig:
Kawalorn Jan 10 @ 8:33am 
Are you using the Parasitic Link ability? It gives him up to 90% damage reduction. Still I'm more or less OK using Nidus in Netracells without it, myself.
neock Jan 10 @ 8:47am 
as someone who was a nidus main, i can say 100% hes gotten left behind. now its hard to survive with him while having adaptation at full and 1400 armor. you dont get time to get stacks most of the time before dieing, and even when you do... your left in constant drain of stacks from undying state so much you dont HAVE stacks.... and my build is centered on high armor with rapid stack gen.
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