Valkyr Rework Preview

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

Why is she getting damage buffs
Why is she getting defensive nerfs (on this level)
DE what the hell are you smoking? Why nerf a bad frame to begin with? Why buff the thing that was her already really REALLY good?

[Kura_]

the update is not even out yet...

[tv]

they should have nerfed sevagoth augments

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

Originally posted by Kura_:

the update is not even out yet...

Yes read the title.
That doesn't mean I can't also give feeback. Valkyr is my 2nd most used warframe and was the main reason I stayed playing warframe for a good chunk of time. Why should I not give feedback if I genuinely think a PREVIEW of a rework will be worse for the overall expiriance of playing the character?
They even nerfed her lifesteal and made it a flat amount from a %.
It removes synergistic opportunities from Paralasys.
It removes the scaling capability of Valkyr into lategame and funnels her into shieldgating and invis spam instead of her uniquely harsh energy drain.

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

Originally posted by tv:

they should have nerfed sevagoth augments

Thread isn't about sevagoth but sure.

I litarally never touched sevagoth despite building his base and prime versions and forma-ing both 5-10 times el oh el

[Donitsi]

Are you saying nerf because of Hysteria? I'm sure idea of LifeSteal nerf from % to flat 50hp (scales with Strength) is to not let her tank everything with Hysteria for rest of the mission. Her energy drain is reduced too.

I'm glad they upgraded her abilities and are getting rid of invulnerability. Her Hysteria is like old Ember World On Fire or Trinity Blessing from 2014. Her base health increased from 270 to 450, Armor from 630 to 800 and Prime has even higher stats. She should survive just fine anywhere.

[Nibbie]

The only thing they nerfed on her was her ult invincibility, though it now gives her an insane armor boost and status immunity, it is way cheaper, and it doesn't automatically kill you if you run out of energy near enemies. Also, her passive now makes her invincible, and while we will have to see what the uptime is like once its out, combined with her ult I imagine you would probably be invincible most of the time anyway. I'm a Valkyr main almost since she came out, and I haven't relied on her 4 since they nerfed its energy drain so hard all those years ago. The QOL improvements to the rest of the kit, especially her passive, are fantastic upgrades, and with higher base stats as well I'm going to be even more invincible than I usually am.

[C.O.M]

Nerf an invicibility button ? Better name it a "balance patch" (mesmer skin watch out.)

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

Originally posted by Donitsi:

Are you saying nerf because of Hysteria? I'm sure idea of LifeSteal nerf from % to flat 50hp (scales with Strength) is to not let her tank everything with Hysteria for rest of the mission. Her energy drain is reduced too.

I'm glad they upgraded her abilities and are getting rid of invulnerability. Her Hysteria is like old Ember World On Fire or Trinity Blessing from 2014. Her base health increased from 270 to 450, Armor from 630 to 800 and Prime has even higher stats. She should survive just fine anywhere.

No DR armor tanking is very bad in SP and higher lmao
Armor soft caps at 90% DR

[Rat Comedenti | TTV]

Originally posted by C.O.M:

Nerf an invicibility button ? Better name it a "balance patch" (mesmer skin watch out.)

Gut shieldgating to be fair then? They are both balanced the exact same way. Kill enemy, Get energy, Keep invuln. I genuinely think you don't understand how builds in this game work.
Even then what about paralasys? Why nerf that?

[C.O.M]

Originally posted by Rat Comedenti | TTV:

Originally posted by C.O.M:

Nerf an invicibility button ? Better name it a "balance patch" (mesmer skin watch out.)

Gut shieldgating to be fair then? They are both balanced the exact same way. Kill enemy, Get energy, Keep invuln. I genuinely think you don't understand how builds in this game work.
Even then what about paralasys? Why nerf that?

I didn't said that shieldgating was balanced. But between pressing a button when the shield is out with a proper timing and a proper shieldgating build OR just press a button and road rage without any risk, I prefer to have risk and go shieldgating, it's more... "Alive", at my sight.
Her paralysis doesn't consume her shield anymore and will help to build up the passive to get more damages by doing more mercy/finisher kills, where is the nerf ?

[sibiris]

They havent fixed any of her useles skills, slapped some numbers and nerfed her only thing.
For those who dont play valkyr it means nothing, so let me draw some comparisons.
Her kit hasnt received any meaningful update since release! more than 10 years ago. the game has changed tremendously since.

Leaving her outdated abilities like that and boosting the numbers can be understood easily if instead of reworking excal, they kept his super jump instead up to this day. and instead of actually reworking it they just said the same as now with valk. "He can jump faster now and on landing gropus and damages enemies." Are you mental?

As for the 4 nerf, her only ability has just been reduced to nothing. Whats the point of having damage when you cant use it? Anything below lvl 300 dies insteantly and above lvl 300 is unsurvivable without shield gating or overguard stacking. Its like removing aimbot from mesa. What is the point of the ult now?

Nerfing a 10 year old warframe when the community has been asking for a rework for years goes beyong ridiculous. Its like they are doing it out of spite. They completely butchered her lore with the prime and the gersemi fiasco. She only received 1 buff about 9 year ago along with ember and has only been affected indirectly by the games rebalancing over the years.

I honestly dont understand beople who praise this bs, valkyr will play absolutely the same but worse after the nerf. Thats a fact.

Some people will jump to claim, skill issue. Sure, why would I bother to suffer with valkyr after the nerf when baruk exists, or voruna, or excal, or titania. Literally any other frame except inaros maybe. Its not about skill issues, its about an unwaranted nerf to an already struggling warframe. Nobody will play valkyr when there are 50 better options out there.

Ive been dreading this nerf for years and now that its here I feel powerless to do anything about it. Pablo will not waste 5 more seconds on stuff that he already finished and packed. Who has time for that am im right? Just play a different warframe if you dont like new valkyr. But hey, heres a new gooner skin that looks nothing like valkyr thematically, physically or spiritually. Enjoy.

[Sephylon]

All depends on how quickly she can stack the new passive, even then the 3s invuln needs to scale off dur like switch tele does. Grouping on her 1 seems ok, tho puts narrow minded out of the equation, or requires overextend to go with it. All that ontop of now needing cata shield and maaaaybee rolling guard. The mod tax they're putting on her just doesn't seem worth on paper atm.

[PhellAsleep]

Anyone else been around long enough to remember when Rhino was the one that had invincibility, then they took it away and immediately gave it to Valkyr? Good times.

[XxuLTRAgoddemonDragonslayerxX420]

Originally posted by Rat Comedenti | TTV:

Originally posted by Kura_:

the update is not even out yet...

Yes read the title.
That doesn't mean I can't also give feeback. Valkyr is my 2nd most used warframe and was the main reason I stayed playing warframe for a good chunk of time. Why should I not give feedback if I genuinely think a PREVIEW of a rework will be worse for the overall expiriance of playing the character?
They even nerfed her lifesteal and made it a flat amount from a %.
It removes synergistic opportunities from Paralasys.
It removes the scaling capability of Valkyr into lategame and funnels her into shieldgating and invis spam instead of her uniquely harsh energy drain.

I liked Valkyr purely because of her invincibility, it was just so stupid that I literally did not have to care about anything, removing that part really just kills the fun of playing her but it was just too good, people say it was balanced as energy is a problem that Valkyr faces, when its not. Put on Voruna subume and equilibrium and you stay immortal and do millions of damage. Though, they went too far as they shafted the survivability of her now as DR just sucks.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Originally posted by PhellAsleep:

Anyone else been around long enough to remember when Rhino was the one that had invincibility, then they took it away and immediately gave it to Valkyr? Good times.

Prepare to have it come back. Hysteria was invincibility on one key press. For Iron Skin/Shrapnel, you just have to press the key twice. Plus Roar works on guns, not just melee weapons.