I'm happy that I got more representation

[Maxine]

Another non-binary warframe hit the orokin tower...

Xaku was already OP with armor strip, good ability damage scaling and one of the better damage buffs.

Now we have Temple with abilities that give you more crit, heat damage and on top of that healing you and your teammates and decent exalted. Not even to mention amazing looking protoskin.

Now that's representation I want!

[󠀡󠀡]

I think Flare is a girl and Temple was a male Dax when he got converted in the Tenno-verse which is why they're saying the duo is non-binary.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I'm down for any character with a good story to tell. Survivor of a martyred rock band? I'm on board for that.

[Wandering Flare]

Postat inițial de Daniel:

Well, im happy for you. But i feel anger at the same time.

I spiritualy identify as a crow and there is a HUGE UNJUSTIFIED lack of otherkin and therian representation. DE is not as incluse as you think. fkit

We've got Zephyr for birbs.

[Wandering Flare]

Postat inițial de Sly-Scale:

Postat inițial de Rayu:

I have good news for you. The way DE wrote the way eternalism works in warframe, all warframes can be non-binary.
Every choice and chance event has, is and will happen in this infinite multiverse. This means that there is a warframe universe out there, could be yours, where every warframe is non-binary.
And, anybody who does not like the idea of playing with a non-binary warframe, you can just say your universe version of Temple is not non-binary. And you can do the same thing with other warframes ofcourse.

That tends to fall apart where you call your Temple a 'he' and somebody corrects you on your Warframe, and DE weights the bannings in their favor.
Not that I've ever been banned, but Region chat acts like they're the school principal's son. I've punched such a bully's nose before.

When a corporate entity picks a side, any side, that's where my tolerance ends.

I mean, it's the side of the literal creator of Flare. Calling Rhino a woman would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a man, calling Ember a man would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a woman, what makes Flare "yours" then?

[Aidenel]

Postat inițial de Wandering Flare:

Postat inițial de Sly-Scale:

That tends to fall apart where you call your Temple a 'he' and somebody corrects you on your Warframe, and DE weights the bannings in their favor.
Not that I've ever been banned, but Region chat acts like they're the school principal's son. I've punched such a bully's nose before.

When a corporate entity picks a side, any side, that's where my tolerance ends.

I mean, it's the side of the literal creator of Flare. Calling Rhino a woman would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a man, calling Ember a man would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a woman, what makes Flare "yours" then?

Flare as a Warframe is an it. Flare as a Protoframe is up to the creator.
Technically.

[Wandering Flare]

Postat inițial de Aidenel:

Postat inițial de Wandering Flare:

I mean, it's the side of the literal creator of Flare. Calling Rhino a woman would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a man, calling Ember a man would be incorrect because the creator decided it's a woman, what makes Flare "yours" then?

Flare as a Warframe is an it. Flare as a Protoframe is up to the creator.
Technically.

Same difference in this case, and yes, it is up to the creator, and the creator made them a "they".

This isn't a TTRPG, none of us made Temple to have a say in any of their aspects, there isn't "their Temple" and "my Temple".

[Ben Lubar]

Postat inițial de Wandering Flare:

Postat inițial de Aidenel:

Flare as a Warframe is an it. Flare as a Protoframe is up to the creator.
Technically.

Same difference in this case, and yes, it is up to the creator, and the creator made them a "they".

This isn't a TTRPG, none of us made Temple to have a say in any of their aspects, there isn't "their Temple" and "my Temple".

If someone built a Warframe in their foundry and said to me "my specific [warframe name] uses [pronouns] pronouns", I'd respect that headcanon.

[Rayu]

Postat inițial de Wandering Flare:

Postat inițial de Aidenel:

Flare as a Warframe is an it. Flare as a Protoframe is up to the creator.
Technically.

Same difference in this case, and yes, it is up to the creator, and the creator made them a "they".

This isn't a TTRPG, none of us made Temple to have a say in any of their aspects, there isn't "their Temple" and "my Temple".

Well, technically there is a "their Temple" and "my Temple", because my warframes might have a different build and look than those of other players.
And while none of us made Temple, it is within the rules of how the warframe world works as written by DE to say, for example, that your version of Rhino is female or your Qorvex is trans or anything else.
And yes, the writing is messy and full of holes, and this might not be as intended by DE, but the current rules are what they are, until DE rewrites them.

[Wandering Flare]

Postat inițial de Rayu:

Postat inițial de Wandering Flare:

Same difference in this case, and yes, it is up to the creator, and the creator made them a "they".

This isn't a TTRPG, none of us made Temple to have a say in any of their aspects, there isn't "their Temple" and "my Temple".

Well, technically there is a "their Temple" and "my Temple", because my warframes might have a different build and look than those of other players.
And while none of us made Temple, it is within the rules of how the warframe world works as written by DE to say, for example, that your version of Rhino is female or your Qorvex is trans or anything else.
And yes, the writing is messy and full of holes, and this might not be as intended by DE, but the current rules are what they are, until DE rewrites them.

Thing is, there is an infinite amount of universes, but there is only one universe we all play in. So there is no infinite amount of Temples, there is the Temple of this universe, and the Temple of this universe is what DE says they are.

[Apocaleptic]

just be careful in region chat. someone called temple a "he" and a dev showed up to correct them. word policing is getting very real.

[Ben Lubar]

Postat inițial de Apocaleptic:

just be careful in region chat. someone called temple a "he" and a dev showed up to correct them. word policing is getting very real.

Did they go to jail? Or was it simply someone offering the correct word after someone used the wrong word?

[Wandering Flare]

Postat inițial de Apocaleptic:

just be careful in region chat. someone called temple a "he" and a dev showed up to correct them. word policing is getting very real.

It was just a correction, chill.

[Skaev]

Postat inițial de Aexens:

Pretty sure Temple as "they" is the entity Flare/Lizzie, playing in french personally and Flare is definitely a guy with how he talk in mails/subtitles

This.

[Ben Lubar]

Postat inițial de Skaev:

Postat inițial de Aexens:

Pretty sure Temple as "they" is the entity Flare/Lizzie, playing in french personally and Flare is definitely a guy with how he talk in mails/subtitles

This.

Flare is referred to using they/them pronouns. If you can find an instance of a character calling them "he", that'd be one thing, but there's no evidence of that in the game.

[Oakshadow]

It's kind of wild getting old and watching young people categorize 80's / 90's rock fashion as non-binary.
I'm sure there was a statement they were trying to make besides looking as strange and flashy as possible to garner media attention. But it's been so long now I'll be damned if I can remember it.
Art really is owned by the onlooker I suppose. But that's what keeps it alive really.