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Monarch 21. des. 2015 kl. 4.33
What are Warframes [Spoiler]
So I was bored, and there's nothing better to do than Chatframe.
I thought about this crazy theory.

{This thread is for those who love Warframe for its lore, long read ahead, no TLDR available}

Now we all know Tenno, are the Zariman kids from the ship Zariman Ten-Zero.
Tenno aka Operators, are originally Orokins that are over hundred years olds, but age extremely slow. Hence, our Operators still looks like children, even though they're all old enough to be our grandparents.

Anywho. The Second Dream quest explored just that. Described and explained how we works.
The flesh and blood of a Tenno, sitting in Somatic Link, controlling our Warframes like a puppet.

Now. If you paid attention to the dialogs, you'll notice how YOU, the Tenno keeps referring "We". "Us". But not "I". This define Warframe and Tenno are seperate entities, now hear me out. My crazed theory may make sense to you in the end.

Remember in the Second Dream quest, end. Where your Warframe was impaled by War, and 'you' were about to be choked like a ♥♥♥♥♥ by Stalker? And your Warframe acted out, and snapped War in half?

Many people are speculating what's going on when that happened. Are Warframe sentient?(Here meaning self-aware, not the faction) Do they still have a mind, or soul, or body inside?

Personally, I think DE drew heavy inspiration from Neo Genesis Evangelion series.
Reference line: "The transference makes this hurt" By Tenno. (When you get revived, gravely damaged etc.)
So from this, we know that the Operator feels what the Warframe feels when the transference link is established. Much like in the EVA series, where the pilot can actually recieve the same physical damage / harm, when the sync link is too high.
*Which side track a bit. Remember how in Mirage's, and Limbo's quest. The lore almost referred Warframe into human-like traits? Smiling and the such? Perhaps this was the case, transference link was too strong, and the Tenno suffered brain-trauma, or into shock and eventually died from the overwhelming / unsuspecting force.

Back on topic. Now if you've watched EVA series, you've noticed EVA-01 in multiple different settings, have acted on its own before, even without a power supply, or a pilot. Because, correct me if I'm wrong, but EVA-01 is embedded with the soul of the main character's mother.

See where I'm going with this?

In the lore states, Zariman Ten-Zero was found several years later after it went MIA in the Void. And stated - No other survivors were found, besides the children.

Now let me refresh - In Ember's lore. It was revealed that Zariman Ten-Zero was a military ship, and children weren't supposed to be onboard. But in Second Dream quest, it didn't show sign of "confusion" when Lotus was talking to the Tenno. It's almost as if the children were 'placed' there, intentionally. Which I find the line "We didn't. That would violate procedure." more the troubling.

Perhaps Zariman Ten-Zero was a black ops created by the Orokin high council, or perhaps just one of the projects by the Corpus (Before the fallout, Corpus are like regular citizens in the society, whereas Orokins are much like royalties. As shown in many other lore entries, plenty of Corpus are showing / offering solutions to Orokin's soon downfall. This 'black ops' could be one of them.)

Perhaps...The parents on the ship were never 'lost'. But instead taken away to be the core of a Warframe? Perhaps. The Warframes are the Zariman's children's missing parents? And what happened in the Liset, with War, with Stalker, and the Chok la' ♥♥♥♥♥ Tenno, is parental instinct kicking in? Much like EVA-01 trying to protect the main character when he's in grave danger?

Now this isn't the only thing that's making me speculate this. Here's one more to the list.

In Rhino's lore. It's pretty much clear that the 'beast' was the Warframe, but without a successful link to be controlled by the Tenno. (Or perhaps at that stage, they were just trying to build a Warframe, without ever considering the 'duo-control scheme', using Tenno as Operators.) Since the beast exhibits what seems to be Iron Skin, and Rhino Charge.

Now, I find this logical, or atleast in fiction. A being dead or alive, being twisted by a super natural force, then later being subject to experimentation. It often doesn't end well, and I see this as what exactly is happening in the beginning of the Rhino lore. A powerful being, reduced to its primal needs and instincts.

(It is watching me with vague eyes, a sense of recognition, ancestral memory. It knows who I am and what I've done.) This line is from Rhino's lore.
This could very well state the 'beast' was once someone / something the 'protagonist' in this lore was working with, or known.
(Zariman Ten-Zero was a military ship, besides the children, the adults is most likely adults, military personell. "Warframe project" while black ops, is also more likely to be a military project. A travelling Military personell knowing another stationed military personell is a possibility.

Further more. Rhino was in rage, until it seen the morgue, where they kept the bodies from Zariman Ten-Zero. Now they never specified whose bodys were in the morgue, except they were from Zariman. (It could be either dead Tenno/Children, or the adults. In this case, let's assume Children)

I'm for the parental instinct. When Rhino rushed into the morgue, and saw the dead children, perhaps Rhino's own son. The shock. The memory?

That is my thought up theory...
Because nobody wants to Raid 7am in the morning, and I'm bored and got nothing better to do.

Addition: This may also explain the various sizes of adult size male and female frames. It doesn't fit a Children, but it certainly looks like a matured adult. INB4 But Nezha looks like a boy still. Let's not bring Changyou's design into Warframe's core lore okay? Their 'fan art' depict Warframe as a literal suit with a human being inside. We all know that's not true. (Alad V mentioned he opened up a Warframe before, and what he found didn't make sense.)
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Archwraith 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.15 
I literally stopped and thinking for a while but found out a dead end with how your theory goes Vi.

Tenno are sentient? This is weird...

In desperation the Orokin utilized the survivors of the Zariman Ten Zero incident, who had gained immense power from the Void, as warriors. They were trained in the old ways of battle and a conduit that could withstand and channel their power was created for them. Thus, the first Tenno were created. With their new soldiers ready for combat, the Orokin managed to turn the tide of battle.
The bold part is Warframe.
The survivor is us, the operator.

This part clearly said that warframe are human-like weapon that was made to fight the sentient and the sentient themselves are really troubled to fight us. How can we be them..? We were manipulated by Lotus to destroy the Orokin from inside, before she actually adopt us, leading us to be hunted down by Stalker right now. We are Orokin by trademark from so far the story goes.

But my bigger mystery is why did the stalker hesitate the first time Tenno encounter him in the Moon? Why did he let us go? Then why he return to attack us again on our own ship? Why going back and forth about it? Is the Stalker on our ship different than the Stalker we met on Moon?

Sorry, adding more questions.
Stakhanovite 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.23 
i m more interested in how they explained why tenno can die and revive 4 times a mission
Alizarin 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.29 
It wasnt changyou's design, DE did everything and changyou just copy and paste.

So thats outta the way lets talk about the parents as warframe theory. I really doubt that its the case because according to salad the interior of the warframes "didnt make sense." Because all you'll find inside the frame will be augments to channel energy and the rest will just be technocyte virus tissues. And the crewmen and parents where probably obliterated into dust by the Tennos uncontrollable powers.

One thing that didnt make sense to me, is when you talk to the lotus, one dialogue option makes you say something about your mother and jumping to another system. Which sounded like they were going on a tour, but in ember prime codex it seemed like people didnt even know the kids existed and things. Maybe it was a cargo ship and the kids and parents were smugglers?

Also i wanna get a clear size of how big the Zariman was, i mean there is no way a few hundred or even a thousand frames could turn the tide of a loosing battle in an entire system. I came up with all these as i went along and probably wont make sense at all cuz theyre so stuck together and im too lazy to go over and fix this. Hope you make sense of this....
KitKat 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.35 
Interesting theory, actually. Since I'm also bored... Here is another one.

Before Zariman 10-0, there was a project... "Warframe". Orokin tried to make super-soldiers using the technocite virus. Those soldiers were infected with it, gainting immunity. Their bodies were covered in this... Technocite "flesh" suits/armor, what we know now as those warframes. Suts/armor that couldn't be taken off. The soldier would become a 24/7 warmachine. Basically, the would BE the warframe - soldeir+suit/armor. As one.
Of course there were side effects and failures:
1)Some soldiers would just simply die. Because of the virus killing them.
2)Some survived and tried to control it even, but... Failed. Their mind was completely overrun by the virus and they turned into those "Infested" we know now. Of course they were killed right away.
- From these two we can get those morgues you mentioned, as said in the Rhino codex.
3)Some not only survived, but managed to control it just fine. But as soon as the part with void energy started... Well, everything went even worse. It either killed them right away or made em insane aswell. Because they couldn't handle holding both against the virus AND controling the flow of void energies
- Here is another one for the Rhino codex.

And then, CONVINIENTLY, the Zariman 10-0 "happened"... Children, returning on the ship from the void. Changed by it, twisted, but having the ability to control the void energies easily. So the Orokin eggheads decided to try something different for the Warframe project. At first, they tried to learn everything about the children - how did they become like this, why did they survive, etc etc. And then came another idea... To make a crossover between the Warframe project and Zariman 10-0 survivors research. Why? Simple.
The kids (Tenno) could help those poor soldiers in warframe suits/armor:
1)Help them control the virus, to make it stay away from their minds. Remember Pacific Rim? Two minds were needed to control the robot, because one mind is not enough. While here... The soldier and the Tenno could handle it with ease. Thus leaving enough strenght for the other "thing".
2)Tenno could help those soldiers control the void energies. Make them and their suits CONDUITS of void energy. Make the energy flow though them and never stay inside them. Because we all know, void energy is... Destructive.
So together, they could become great soldiers, great warriors...

Side-effects! Again!
1)When a Tenno were to "connect" with the soldier - mind of the host would just... Turn off. Tenno would be in full control.
2)Sometimes soldiers, who stayed connected with the Tenno for too long, just... Died. Not their body, no. But their mind. The warframe would stay operational and functional... For as long as the Tenno controling it. But as soon as he or she disconnects - warframe collapses. Because the soldier inside the warframe is... Dead. The person. The mind. Erased. A hollow shell, a puppet. As seen in the Second Dream quest.
3)Some soldiers turned out to be COMPLETELY incompatible with this whole "link" thing, but they managed to stay alive - in control of their minds, their bodies and even some of the void powers. Thus were created... The "low guardians". Warriors that have more power than your average soldier, but... Not as good as a Tenno - a mind of a Zariman 10-0 child AND a body of some soldier in a warframe. Together.
- Also, as we know, Stalker is one of the low guardians. Why is is so powerful, without a Tenno? Well, we slept in cryostasis - both the Tenno and our warframe - while he was awake. Trained, waited for our return, prepared for it.

Now, with this theory of mine, the answer to the question "How our warframe brake the War in the end of the quest? is very simple... After a long link with a Tenno, the mind of a soldier inside the warframe is dead. But the emotional EXPLOSION of a Tenno finding out the truth(the moment when he or she is taken out of the reservoir and so on) could create a spark and return a tiny piece of "life" to the mind of a body inside the warframe. No, an instinct. A will to survive AND save the Tenno.

P.s. It's just a theory... Nothing more.
dyra55 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.38 
Remember Rhino Prime codex entry? about a metal beast that was an uncontrallable monster and used powers similar to Rhino's powers (Charge, Iron Skin (maybe), Roar) and when he got into morgue with kids from Zariman - he started looking at his hands :spycon:

I guess some Tenno took control of him, or something like that

And this thing was, more likely, made from infestation in attempt to make them more controllable or something
Sist redigert av dyra55; 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.41
Monarch 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.47 
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I literally stopped and thinking for a while but found out a dead end with how your theory goes Vi.

Tenno are sentient? This is weird...

This part clearly said that warframe are human-like weapon that was made to fight the sentient and the sentient themselves are really troubled to fight us. How can we be them..? We were manipulated by Lotus to destroy the Orokin from inside, before she actually adopt us, leading us to be hunted down by Stalker right now. We are Orokin by trademark from so far the story goes.

But my bigger mystery is why did the stalker hesitate the first time Tenno encounter him in the Moon? Why did he let us go? Then why he return to attack us again on our own ship? Why going back and forth about it? Is the Stalker on our ship different than the Stalker we met on Moon?

Sorry, adding more questions.

You misread what I wrote, and I've specifically added specifications.
Tenno were originally Orokin children, but through Void, twisted.
I'm saying the Warframe itself perhaps were at one point sentient. Sentient by definition means self-aware; Like, we, in real life, human beings are sentient beings. Dogs are sentient beings etc.

Lotus was A sentient(faction), and much likely the true cause of the fall of the Orokin Empire.
She was supposed to eliminate us at the very end, but she didn't follow through the plan. Thus Hunhow was salty in the Natah quest. And in Second Dream quest, saying Lotus's mind is corrupted, and he's here to finish the job.

I have a feeling that Stalker and Excal Umbra are somewhat related. We just have to wait for Excal Umbra release to find out more. *(Since DE wishes to implement Umbra properly, perhaps giving it a quest, and more lore for its origin.)

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i m more interested in how they explained why tenno can die and revive 4 times a mission

In my theory, Warframe are just corpses imbuded with Void energy, and controlled by Tenno through Somatic Link.

If you're into ESP (in real life), utilizing any sort of mental power causes tremendous stress and exhaustion on the physical body. And in lore reference, if your warframe dies, your Tenno feel the pain.

So perhaps the standard 4 revives, is your Tenno's limit. After keep going for 4 times, your Tenno reaches his/her limit, and simply can't maintain the Link, and fight.

Opprinnelig skrevet av METRiC Yuuki Σ:
It wasnt changyou's design, DE did everything and changyou just copy and paste.

So thats outta the way lets talk about the parents as warframe theory. I really doubt that its the case because according to salad the interior of the warframes "didnt make sense." Because all you'll find inside the frame will be augments to channel energy and the rest will just be technocyte virus tissues. And the crewmen and parents where probably obliterated into dust by the Tennos uncontrollable powers.

One thing that didnt make sense to me, is when you talk to the lotus, one dialogue option makes you say something about your mother and jumping to another system. Which sounded like they were going on a tour, but in ember prime codex it seemed like people didnt even know the kids existed and things. Maybe it was a cargo ship and the kids and parents were smugglers?

Also i wanna get a clear size of how big the Zariman was, i mean there is no way a few hundred or even a thousand frames could turn the tide of a loosing battle in an entire system. I came up with all these as i went along and probably wont make sense at all cuz theyre so stuck together and im too lazy to go over and fix this. Hope you make sense of this....

It's "Changyou's Design", as in made to focus and please the Chinese poppulation. To APPEAL the specific region audience was the main focus, lore, and game logic became a sub-objective, instead of main.

Alad V.
It could also not make sense, if you opened up a Warframe, and find a dried corpse with bunch of mechanics and tubes and infested tissue merged all together.
Since remember? Excal lore - Took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame AROUND them.
It is clearly not the case anymore, since the 'them', we used to assume is the Tenno themselves. But since we aren't physically in the frame. That could only mean.......
*Yes, it is a possibility that DE changed their mind on the lore. But with how serious they're taking their game design, I doubt they'd make such a blatant contradiction and left it be. (We may not agree with some of their game design decisions, but that doesn't change the fact that they take it seriously.)

It was stated specifically that Zarmina Ten-Zero, was a military ship.
Children were not supposed to be onboard. Hence I suggested, it could've been a black ops. Something that's not "Legal" in the Orokin society / system, but as a last ditch of effort, they turned to such extreme measure.

Someone once mentioned / referenced that, for all we know. Zariman Ten-Zero could be the size of a Spear of Adun from Starcraft. And since we're talking about Orokin technology, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. + DE's joke response to how Liset is so big inside, while so small inside. They mentioned: "Void technology". Could've been the same deal with Zariman Ten-Zero. A compressed space technology or whatever you'd like to call it.

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Remember Rhino Prime codex entry? about a metal beast that was an uncontrallable monster and used powers similar to Rhino's powers (Charge, Iron Skin (maybe), Roar) and when he got into morgue with kids from Zariman - he started looking at his hands :spycon:

I guess some Tenno took control of him, or something like that

And this thing was, more likely, made from infestation in attempt to make them more controllable or something

Morgue is a place where they house dead bodies, so that the bodies won't decay.
The entire reason Lotus hid the resevoir in the Moon was because that was the safest place she can think of. Because once the Tenno dies, it's gameover. (aka no control)

My whole theory is also based on the direction DE is taking the tone of story.
Remember the sound track? How it made you feel?

+ Bionic Commando, I didn't really play the game myself. But I read up on the wiki, and apparently the bionic arm is created with the protagonist's wife's body? Since it requires compatibility or some weird science. Now I didn't even play the game, but that made me feel sad, touching. A protagonist went on a long search for someone missing, and turns out they've been right by their side all along.

That's why I feel this theory is sound, by the tone of lore.
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dyra55 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.50 
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She was supposed to eliminate us at the very end, but she didn't follow through the plan. Thus Hunhow was salty in the Natah quest. And in Second Dream quest, saying Lotus's mind is corrupted, and he's here to finish the job.

I think he was more than salty, he is an butthurt at least :spycon:
Archwraith 21. des. 2015 kl. 5.52 
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I literally stopped and thinking for a while but found out a dead end with how your theory goes Vi.

Tenno are sentient? This is weird...

This part clearly said that warframe are human-like weapon that was made to fight the sentient and the sentient themselves are really troubled to fight us. How can we be them..? We were manipulated by Lotus to destroy the Orokin from inside, before she actually adopt us, leading us to be hunted down by Stalker right now. We are Orokin by trademark from so far the story goes.

But my bigger mystery is why did the stalker hesitate the first time Tenno encounter him in the Moon? Why did he let us go? Then why he return to attack us again on our own ship? Why going back and forth about it? Is the Stalker on our ship different than the Stalker we met on Moon?

Sorry, adding more questions.

You misread what I wrote, and I've specifically added specifications.
Tenno were originally Orokin children, but through Void, twisted.
I'm saying the Warframe itself perhaps were at one point sentient. Sentient by definition means self-aware; Like, we, in real life, human beings are sentient beings. Dogs are sentient beings etc.

Lotus was A sentient(faction), and much likely the true cause of the fall of the Orokin Empire.
She was supposed to eliminate us at the very end, but she didn't follow through the plan. Thus Hunhow was salty in the Natah quest. And in Second Dream quest, saying Lotus's mind is corrupted, and he's here to finish the job.

I have a feeling that Stalker and Excal Umbra are somewhat related. We just have to wait for Excal Umbra release to find out more. *(Since DE wishes to implement Umbra properly, perhaps giving it a quest, and more lore for its origin.)
Oh, sorry, misread at that point. But yeah, your theory might be true if Warframe is a sentient itself as a being, not faction as Stalker is one of the few of proof of your theory thus far. We have no information of that Stalker has an Operator as well, but he is a Warframe indeed from his looks and his strength. *Umbra Hype instensifies*
A Temu Vape 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.00 
It's a good theory but there's one part that I'm torn on.
I know Alad V said that he didn't understand what he saw when he opened a frame, but Mag Prime's codex entry says that a Tenno must have been inside a frame.

If you read Mag Prime's codex, it mentions that "they" were the last to cross the gap into the void because their ship had "special cargo".

It then proceeds to mention that their ship only had 10 men equipped with Zero-Tech suits on it, and one slender "vaguely human, vaguely feminine" warframe. "A Tenno inside its warframe" that apparently was a lot stronger than the 10 men.

What doesn't make sense though is that I guess a lot of people were "Tenno deniers", as the log shows that I guess more than just the crewman thought the Tenno were ghosts, and nothing more than a mothers fairytale before bedtime.
However, it also says that "the empire, in their desperation, was going to turn the demon loose" just before question if it's worth it to fear the Tenno more than "the enemy". It appears that the Tenno saved the crewman, and they went on to fight "the enemy"...


---On a side note, is it possible that Ember and Mag's entries are connected?
Could the "special cargo" have been the children? The only difference would be that in Mag's entry, all the ships were destroyed, the crew died and were basically burned alive, and it never mentions what the "special cargo" was, unless Mag itself was the special cargo that was mentioned.

But if that's the case, what about Rhino? Why would Rhino go after whoever had the Zariman? Was the ship that never returned really Mag's ship? Did Ember not know about the children on the ship?

Find out next episode on Dragon Ball Z Warframe.

Sist redigert av A Temu Vape; 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.02
Monarch 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.15 
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It's a good theory but there's one part that I'm torn on.
I know Alad V said that he didn't understand what he saw when he opened a frame, but Mag Prime's codex entry says that a Tenno must have been inside a frame.

If you read Mag Prime's codex, it mentions that "they" were the last to cross the gap into the void because their ship had "special cargo".

It then proceeds to mention that their ship only had 10 men equipped with Zero-Tech suits on it, and one slender "vaguely human, vaguely feminine" warframe. "A Tenno inside its warframe" that apparently was a lot stronger than the 10 men.

What doesn't make sense though is that I guess a lot of people were "Tenno deniers", as the log shows that I guess more than just the crewman thought the Tenno were ghosts, and nothing more than a mothers fairytale before bedtime.
However, it also says that "the empire, in their desperation, was going to turn the demon loose" just before question if it's worth it to fear the Tenno more than "the enemy". It appears that the Tenno saved the crewman, and they went on to fight "the enemy"...


---On a side note, is it possible that Ember and Mag's entries are connected?
Could the "special cargo" have been the children? The only difference would be that in Mag's entry, all the ships were destroyed, the crew died and were basically burned alive, and it never mentions what the "special cargo" was, unless Mag itself was the special cargo that was mentioned.

But if that's the case, what about Rhino? Why would Rhino go after whoever had the Zariman? Was the ship that never returned really Mag's ship? Did Ember not know about the children on the ship?

Find out next episode on Dragon Ball Z Warframe.

From the debrief report made by a regular soldier, I'd wager that he/she didn't really know how Warframe / Tenno works. I'm assuming that the soldier assumed there's someone alive inside the Warframe. Also note that, he thought Tenno / Warframe was just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ story up until he actually saw one himself. So it is possible that he was fed by rumour and misinformation.

Or in another case, it could be a double meaning. Since Tenno's mind is technically INside a Warframe when we control them. (We are not playing as a Tenno playing as a Warframe, we are Tenno playing as a Warframe. And since we are Tenno, we are playing as the Warframe, in a sense. We are in the Warframe when we immersive ourselves into the game.)

From all the lore, we know one thing of the Orokin Empire for sure. They are self-centered. Their seven-principle is based on their sole benefit. As long as they will thrife, survive, and keep prospering, nothing else mattered. During Second Dream Quest, it was mentioned that the Orokin feared the Tenno, because of the tremendous, uncontrollable power we hold. That conflicts with the seven principle. So it was a descision to either die, or risk dying at the end times, Orokin decided to let Tenno / Warframe loose instead.

You lost me on your side note.
Rhino wasn't going after whoever had the Zariman children. He / It was going after the scientists, but then discovered the morgue that contains the bodies from the Zariman Ten-Zero.
Kaleen was just the lead investigator, she wasn't Ember. Kaleen was burned by a Zariman child. And worth noting here that, the burn turned Kaleen's burned section of skin moon-white. Ember's fire turns target's body into a dark charred crisp. Meaning, the burning is caused by the void energy those Zariman children possessed. (Much like the fyrin mah lazah sequence during Second Dream quest.)
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Alizarin 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.21 
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Orokins wont be experimenting with the void, they consider it a "hell hole" and those who return from it as "devils" and tried to kill the Tennos right away. The chance of them experimenting with void energy is....minimal. Remember how another guy was sentenced to death before Margulas for giving the idea of something like "manipulating void energy and use them for their own deeds"? It pretty much shows how serious Orokins were with anything void related~
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Orokins wont be experimenting with the void, they consider it a "hell hole" and those who return from it as "devils" and tried to kill the Tennos right away. The chance of them experimenting with void energy is....minimal. Remember how another guy was sentenced to death before Margulas for giving the idea of something like "manipulating void energy and use them for their own deeds"? It pretty much shows how serious Orokins were with anything void related~

Or anything that could threaten them, really.

Orokin are just...So very self-centered, and. Like. Cowardly in a sense.
It's 'smart' in a sense I guess, to do whatever it takes to preserve one-self.
A Temu Vape 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.51 
Also, the "Kuria" poem may have extra information? I'm going to try and go on a hunt for them today but I was told the Kuria statues had valuable info for lore.
dyra55 21. des. 2015 kl. 6.52 
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Also, the "Kuria" poem may have extra information? I'm going to try and go on a hunt for them today but I was told the Kuria statues had valuable info for lore.

It's just a poem about story of two sisters (The Twin Queens of Grineer) :spycon:
Alizarin 21. des. 2015 kl. 7.43 
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Also, the "Kuria" poem may have extra information? I'm going to try and go on a hunt for them today but I was told the Kuria statues had valuable info for lore.

It's just a poem about story of two sisters (The Twin Queens of Grineer) :spycon:
And that they are Orokin born, the only two know Orokins still alive these days~
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