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I agree with you. That would be a much more sensible approach than a blind ban.
1) offended party should be able to prove that crime or violation took action, as is common practice in law in many countries. If they claim to deny their service to you due to violation of terms, they should prove it.
2) Even if OP had any software on his computer installed, that is not a warframe's business. You can be punished for the actual act, not for having tools to do a act.
bunus - Its good to issue warning first to first-time offenders so they know they possibly violated something. First-time permanent ban IS harsh.
bunus 2 "then maybe you shouldn't be playing video games for the sake of it instead of for actual enjoyment."
I can play games or whatever in whatever manner i find enjoyable (provided, i dont mess with other people enjoyment).
2) you have played a stupid game of using cheats and got banned for having them.
3) accounts are part of RMT in Warframe as in any other game, they sell up to a 1000$ or so. Since you possibly cheated it's not unreal to expect a different break of ToS so I suggested you do not waste your money before checking for HW ban.
Hw bans are tied to storage tho.
If there's anything more I can provide to make others believe me, I'd post it.
Also, thank you.
those support are done by people with 0 IT knowledge most of the time, they'll only send what they are trained to say, owning anything can lead to a ban or warning even if it's not running, (logitech mouse software, virtualisation soft, memory editor, reverse soft) depending on where they put the threshold.
the fact that it was running is playing agains't you, as most of the time nowaway game anti-cheat search for running process rather than everything installed on your computer as they used to do.
This thread serves as yet another example of why my Steam review for this game is and will remain negative. These bans are wrong and reek of incompetence. DE needs to pay closer attention to what their support personnel are doing.
I don't know how to convince a stranger.
But for what it's worth, I am telling the truth. If you look at my steam profile you can see that I've poured enough dedication to the game that I wouldn't knowingly risk losing access to it.
Have I made a stupid mistake? In hindsight, yes. I understand DE's perspective.
And after reading the EULA completely, I'm willing to say that, specifically to their EULA, that I did accidentally breach it, not in paragraph 2.f., but in paragraph 4 which states:
4. CONSENT TO MONITOR
When running the Software, Digital Extremes may monitor your use and play of the Software and collect data regarding your use and play of the software in accordance with Digital Extreme’s Privacy Policy found at www.warframe.com. In addition, the software may monitor your computer’s Random Access Memory (RAM) for unauthorized third-party programs running concurrently with the Software. An “Unauthorized Third-Party Program” as used herein shall be defined as any third-party software prohibited by Section 2. In the event that the Software detects an Unauthorized Third-Party Program, the Software may communicate information back to Digital Extremes, including without limitation, your Account name, details about the Unauthorized Third-Party Program detected and the time and date; and Digital Extremes may exercise any or all of its rights under this agreement, with or without prior notice to you, including without limitation, termination of this agreement and your right to continue use of the Software.
Truth be told, I never read the EULA the first time I signed up a few years ago. I had no personal precedent with harboring any ill intention towards any game or developer. So I did not think I would ever possibly breach it in any way. So I blindly agreed and moved to play the game for a few years, until now of course.
So, according to paragraph 4, DE has the legal right to ban me, and they can take whatever action they see fit. But factor in my side of the story, my naivety, and at least assume that I'm telling the truth, then they did so hastily, and they are morally wrong.
Then again, the Witcher 3 left me with a week long blues after I finished the main campaign.
I guess this is what spending so much time with a game does to a person.
It's a different thing leaving a game by one's choice, because then It's like a mutual breakup.
But being forced to, especially like this, is akin to serving time in prison for the wrong crime.
I just feel angry.
I also find it sick to the head that people are harassing you because you use cheats in a SINGLEPLAYER GAME.
And here's why you got banned ... you think using third parties softwares is okay, or normal.
I repeat what I said, your ban was fair and the one who uses it is the scum of the games, SP or MP. The only reason you are not banned in your SP game is that SP games for the most part do not search your users.
That part about SP games is unbeliveably from you silly. Why people mod games? why console commands in games like TES exists? If you dont want to use SINGLEPLAYER game in the fashion original designer intended, whats the matter? Real world is also full of items people use differently from their original intended way of use.
And you can continue to use your third partie software, I dont care, im not the one banned till 2035... right op?
I was not banned neither do I use such a progrems. I merely joined discussion.