Stop hating Chinese version, it sucks

[Alizarin]

Because this:

1. Chinese plats are more expensive and comes in smaller ammounts. The 3rd pack in a prime access gets u 150. Whereas the first package of our prime access gives 1000+

2. 75p cost for a colour palette, then every time to change colours on something it has a 2p cost, then an overall 10p finalization cost. (Think of the price to buy a valkyr here, 300 something plats, valkyr in china cost 80p. So a color platte is the same as a 300+p frame)

3. Requires 10 parts of each warframe part (i.e. you need 10 helmet pieces along w/ resources.) to make a warframe (totals out to 30 prayers to RNGesus), just imagine farming Equinox.

4. weapons you build only last for 5 days, then you need to pay around 200p to keep using it. As seen in pretty much every other so called F2P asian games. Also mind dat this isnt 220p on global build, but in chinese build which is the equivalent to 1000+ something.


as a chinese myself i feel offended. This sucks absolute balls in the long run. Sure theres 6 prime accesses at the same time with exclusives like WuKong and Umbra with kunai p and nikana p and also an exclusive penta. But how would you feel if your shet goes away after 5 days like argons? This is the true P2W that erryone has been blabling about. To those of u that think this is P2W, go play the chinese version first. You will be very fkin glad u aint born in asia.

[Alizarin]

Vulbjorn, the walrus rider. eredeti hozzászólása:

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

PWE has done a goid job of ruining in the reputation of the games they can get their hamds on~

Fortunatelly, it's not case for Warframe. At least not everywhere outside of China, which kinda sucks for chinese. What else did they change there? I'm craving for more gossips.

Not much really, except i have no idea what they gonna do with Sentients or is there a Natah quest at all. Other then that just minor icons and small tweaks like almost every crate u bust gives 100 affinity and it seems like the voice team is the one that worked on halo 4. Lotus' voice acting is done by the one that did cortana's (in chinese ofc) and vor's sound very similar as well, just not quite sure who~

Exclusive penta that is....red. Yea.

And also ive noticed few different tile sets never seen before and new models for grineer capture points and so on.

Another little tweak: instead of showing advises from "Tenno operative XX" during loading it shows a random mod that you have found.

Oh yea baby, more exclusives, crossbows

[Schadenregen]

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

Vulbjorn, the walrus rider. eredeti hozzászólása:

Fortunatelly, it's not case for Warframe. At least not everywhere outside of China, which kinda sucks for chinese. What else did they change there? I'm craving for more gossips.

Not much really, except i have no idea what they gonna do with Sentients or is there a Natah quest at all. Other then that just minor icons and small tweaks like almost every crate u bust gives 100 affinity and it seems like the voice team is the one that worked on halo 4. Lotus' voice acting is done by the one that did cortana's (in chinese ofc) and vor's sound very similar as well, just not quite sure who~

Exclusive penta that is....red. Yea.

Can't you download the non-chinese version some how?

[Alizarin]

Schadenregen eredeti hozzászólása:

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

Not much really, except i have no idea what they gonna do with Sentients or is there a Natah quest at all. Other then that just minor icons and small tweaks like almost every crate u bust gives 100 affinity and it seems like the voice team is the one that worked on halo 4. Lotus' voice acting is done by the one that did cortana's (in chinese ofc) and vor's sound very similar as well, just not quite sure who~

Exclusive penta that is....red. Yea.

Can't you download the non-chinese version some how?

Yes, but is there even a single oculyst drone in the game? I dont even think they took the Sentients into consideration and just cut it completely outta the game....idk tho, you can go nowhere without paying. Nowhere.

[Vulbjorn]

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

Schadenregen eredeti hozzászólása:

Can't you download the non-chinese version some how?

Yes, but is there even a single oculyst drone in the game? I dont even think they took the Sentients into consideration and just cut it completely outta the game....idk tho, you can go nowhere without paying. Nowhere.

I guess we should be glad that DE is in charge here. I don't know, it kinda sucks that China got short part of the stick.

[Alizarin]

Schadenregen eredeti hozzászólása:

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

Not much really, except i have no idea what they gonna do with Sentients or is there a Natah quest at all. Other then that just minor icons and small tweaks like almost every crate u bust gives 100 affinity and it seems like the voice team is the one that worked on halo 4. Lotus' voice acting is done by the one that did cortana's (in chinese ofc) and vor's sound very similar as well, just not quite sure who~

Exclusive penta that is....red. Yea.

Can't you download the non-chinese version some how?

Oh sorry i missead the question, i do have an account on the global build~
Aight, im tired, i need sum bed time. Set this as ur wake up clock and i will give you 1 ducat to buy all the wonderful wears of uncle Ki'Teer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8wAs5xQ6kc

[RunForRest]

Vulbjorn, the walrus rider. eredeti hozzászólása:

Yuuki Σ eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes, but is there even a single oculyst drone in the game? I dont even think they took the Sentients into consideration and just cut it completely outta the game....idk tho, you can go nowhere without paying. Nowhere.

I guess we should be glad that DE is in charge here. I don't know, it kinda sucks that China got short part of the stick.

I would like to say its not because of DE, its because people in the west in general dont accept busines models like that YET.
I bet my ass off that the elites in EU and US are very jealous of that system in china and they are working hard to establish the same crap here. I can see changes goin in that direction here in germany since 20 years.

[retroquark]

🍬🎃Notey🎃🍬 eredeti hozzászólása:

*slowly raises American flag*

Don't tempt fate. If the right people gets wind of this, they'll select the least terrifying suggestions, astroturf the idea on Neogaf, and have a "broad consensus" in the entire video-games industry that it's a viable method of using microtransactions by friday afternoon.

In other news, EA has had suggestions actually implemented where addons expire before. Not boosters, but items. The idea is that you'll be so interested in continuing that you will keep paying. And the argument then is that "free to play" is a way to introduce the game to more people, to lower the initial treshold to start playing. And then you would simply pay when you "enjoy" the game. Thus f2p with microtransaction bs being a benevolent boon to gamers at large, as well as the publishers. And so everyone wins. Although publishers slightly more.

Basically - from the point of view of major games-publishers, publishing a game in a box set and expecting slow returns from sales over a year or so, is not viable. If you listen to the arguments, it apparently never was, and piracy has eaten up unheard of sums of profit over the years, and the production costs for re-releases is exorbitant and is really only done as a great service to special super-fans, etc.

And therefore the argument goes that there will be a transition to more volatile media, where you will have free access to parts of the game, and then you pay as you move along. Play the first couple of chapters - and to see how things turn out you have to buy the next chapter. Like having a commercial in the middle of the tv-series episode you can't skip. You know, it's the grand dream of anyone in cable TV, to be able to do something like this. And because of the way internet advertisement has emerged - it typically is not very humble if the content portals know you want to use the service. In the same way, people argue that if they can't sell your personal information to spammers from Mars, then they sure can demand that you click their advertisement screens and subscribe to the spamming list they have, etc.

Because of this, the treshold for accepting things that are completely game-stopping in the middle of a f2p game is not as high as it used to be.

So if people go for this with little enough dismay, it will be tried again. And again. Or more to the point - developers will be forced to implement variants of this to be able to get funding for their projects.

If people remember Studio Liverpool, or Psygnosis - they basically dissolved partially over a decision to implement running/dynamically downloaded advertisements on the WipeoutHD loading screens. And they went to that horrendous solution, simply because that was the only way they could hope to finance the project as a separate studio.

So you get these "options" on how downloadable titles and digital distribution works, and how to insure the money-stream. These theories project impossible proposals and estimates for returns. And if you don't attempt to apply these solutions and incorporate them in your projects, then you're not a viable business-entity.

In the greatest extent - you then have your hostile super-fans rebelling against it being the bane of the studio for not accepting it as a way to support the studio. With studio heads perhaps being very bitter that their fans aren't as flimsy and easy-going as allegedly the customers who flood iTunes with money, and the guys who play candy-crush and buy upgrades.

In other words - China is further ahead of us in the evolution of digital media in this case. And we are lagging behind, so to speak.

[Alizarin]

At last retro cones in and sums up the discussion with a wall of well written text, this thread can now be locked and pinned on the front page of LoreFrame forums. Zefar~

[retroquark]

Haha. :p No, keep going.

[Sterling]

I still don't get the title. How can "stop hating it" and "it sucks" be on the same sentence?

[Satsujinki]

Envy eredeti hozzászólása:

I still don't get the title. How can "stop hating it" and "it sucks" be on the same sentence?

I think he meant these people were getting salty about china's exclusives.

[Sterling]

Satsujinki eredeti hozzászólása:

Envy eredeti hozzászólása:

I still don't get the title. How can "stop hating it" and "it sucks" be on the same sentence?

I think he meant these people were getting salty about china's exclusives.

I thought China's only exclusive was the massive pollution.

[Wyrm]

Satsujinki eredeti hozzászólása:

Envy eredeti hozzászólása:

I still don't get the title. How can "stop hating it" and "it sucks" be on the same sentence?

I think he meant these people were getting salty about china's exclusives.

Si senor.

[Satsujinki]

Envy eredeti hozzászólása:

Satsujinki eredeti hozzászólása:

I think he meant these people were getting salty about china's exclusives.

I thought China's only exclusive was the massive pollution.

Yep. Everyone get salty and china, they get pepper.

[bluebirdvanity]

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Envy eredeti hozzászólása:

I thought China's only exclusive was the massive pollution.

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