Mastery rank locks are absurd (currently)

[gabr0441]

I'm an older player who came back on and off throughout the years, i casually play missions when i feel like i want to play them
grinding things out to unlock something is reasonable, when the grind itself is reasonable
I've been at mastery rank 12-13 for the past 5 years as a causal player and the amount of gear I've mastered to try to reach 14 so i can use weapons i actually want to use is ridiculous
i shouldn't need to take time out of doing the "fun" parts of the game just to hard grind items im not going to use again in the future just to increase my account mastery
i shouldn't be forced to find, farm, and make so much weapons/warframes/companions just to be able to use the things i actually want to
IMO the cap should be 10, with everything after that being unlocked being arcanes, mods variants like the galvanized amalgam or prime mods that they want to balance the lategame around
Arcanes being unlocked to any mastery (after rank 2 to unlock trading) but weapons like the Astilla Prime and the AkLex prime being locked behind MR 14 is honestly ridiculous to me
Especially becuase warframes themselves don't have MR restrictions so why are the weapons restricted on such a high MR level
i love the game, its gameplay, and alot of its mechanics
but this is the one thing thats always made me stop playing which is why im an on and off again player

[Illusive Soul]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DeAlph:

Even Destiny 2 also needs to grind to ramp up its power level, repetitive too.

imagine spend money grind like slave for reskin weapon and sweat for pointless light grind.

[jonnin]

MR just snowballs. At this point in the game you have boosters, and you have the ability to slot a LOT of mods into an unranked weapon to make it viable or you can just level some junk passively while you fight with a real weapon in another slot. You can also passively level up pets and pet weapons to get tons. Yes, you have to actually acquire the items and rank them, but that really should not be that hard... if it is, you are not taking advantage of the base rank stuff in the credits (not cash) shoppe, or your clan's crafting rooms, or trading rep guns, ... something.
You do still need to play, but its not like you have to craft a gorgon and level it by actually shooting it at something -- you can just make it and kill stuff with your frame or offhand and next thing you know its maxed out, off to the garbage bin, and next up. This was so much harder before MR added mod points to rank 1 items and when there were 30% amount of stuff to rank as what is available today.
It really shouldn't slow down much until MR 20 or so.

[Aeriby]

Skill issue, honestly. MR 13 is easy.

[AndyInnit⚡⚡]

I went from a new player to MR 16 in 31 days all you need to do, is go to the market, buy all the guns, all the melee weapons and do a bunch of survivals or whatever.

You get loads of MR XP from railjack intrinsics too.

Aklex prime is MR 15 too, i know this cos i bought the dual BP and link recently.
TBH Pyrana prime is probably better its a pistol shotgun with a large amount of pellets, that spawns a copy in your offhand if you get 3 kills in under 2 seconds, doubles its mag size, and increses the rate of fire by 40% and pyrana prime is MR 13

[AYAYA]

Very funny. This is a game about variety. Get those weapons and warframes, try them out, and maybe you'll actually enjoy something for once instead of just using the generic meta builds that everyone else uses.

[Spirit]

well , the mastery "tests" are mostly easy , except for the stealth ones , they are utterly rubbish

[ɸ It That Dwells ɸ]

I completely agree, the mastery rank system is arbitrarily and poorly organized and balanced. Absolute rubbish.

[Wandering Flare]

Nothing forces you to use a full loadout of unranked items. Bring a frame and a weapon you like and put the stuff you're leveling in other slots, then just play as normal until you've maxed out the leveling items and swap them out.

[soph]

normal level 30 weapons give half the mastery compared to a frame, vehicle, or companion, or even level 40 weapon. breed those kubrows, build those market/dojo companions, collect those lich weapons, hells even k-drives are worth more than lv30 weapons.

also remember: the mastery experience is 1:1 with the affinity experience, and higher affinity levels require more affinity. so 30>40 is more mastery than 20>30. the peak of this is the necramechs, which have the 2x affinity requirement and mastery rewarded while also going all the way up to 40.

[jimpix]

i m new to this and been playing for the past 3 weeks and im already rank 14 and going for 15 and im casual as well its not that hard

[Erei]

Around MR 12 you've unlocked access to everything. After that it's all fluff with a few increase in non essential stuff here and there. It's not like a RPG level where you get stronger the higher you go. A MR 12 can humiliate a LR1 no problem, there is no inherent gap between them.
MR is mostly bragging rights and cosmetics. I genuinely don't see any problem with it. I do the stuff I'm interested in, or the stuff I have an opportunity to rank for MR fodder (like I dunno, I have all the prime part for some gun that is dirt cheap to sell, I'll rank it up, why not).

[Razer]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Erei:

Around MR 12 you've unlocked access to everything. After that it's all fluff with a few increase in non essential stuff here and there. It's not like a RPG level where you get stronger the higher you go. A MR 12 can humiliate a LR1 no problem, there is no inherent gap between them.
MR is mostly bragging rights and cosmetics. I genuinely don't see any problem with it. I do the stuff I'm interested in, or the stuff I have an opportunity to rank for MR fodder (like I dunno, I have all the prime part for some gun that is dirt cheap to sell, I'll rank it up, why not).

I think the highest rank Riven is at MR16. Kuva weapons are at MR15, Tenet Weapons at MR16. In fact. Lot's of weapons at MR13-16 that I see that are pretty good too. I mean, of course you can play without, but it's not like you get everything at MR12.

[Erei]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Razer:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Erei:

Around MR 12 you've unlocked access to everything. After that it's all fluff with a few increase in non essential stuff here and there. It's not like a RPG level where you get stronger the higher you go. A MR 12 can humiliate a LR1 no problem, there is no inherent gap between them.
MR is mostly bragging rights and cosmetics. I genuinely don't see any problem with it. I do the stuff I'm interested in, or the stuff I have an opportunity to rank for MR fodder (like I dunno, I have all the prime part for some gun that is dirt cheap to sell, I'll rank it up, why not).

I think the highest rank Riven is at MR16. Kuva weapons are at MR15, Tenet Weapons at MR16. In fact. Lot's of weapons at MR13-16 that I see that are pretty good too. I mean, of course you can play without, but it's not like you get everything at MR12.

Ok then, after MR16 you don't need anything from MR rank.
Happy now ? :D

I guess I should have listened to myself and check on wiki because obviously someone would go after the single word instead of the essence of the post.

[Razer]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Erei:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Razer:

I think the highest rank Riven is at MR16. Kuva weapons are at MR15, Tenet Weapons at MR16. In fact. Lot's of weapons at MR13-16 that I see that are pretty good too. I mean, of course you can play without, but it's not like you get everything at MR12.

Ok then, after MR16 you don't need anything from MR rank.
Happy now ? :D

I guess I should have listened to myself and check on wiki because obviously someone would go after the single word instead of the essence of the post.

Of course ;)

[ShatteredPumpkin]

oh no OP cant speedrun the game in a day