Just me or is Liset orbitor worn out?

[YaFilthy]

We have had the liset for a long time we've also had the other orbiters any talks of releasing tiles for the mantis, xipos, scim, and para in 2024?

[Nibbie]

We have only ever had one orbiter, what you are referring to is landing craft\, which are just the cockpit section of the orbiter. Also, you are free to decorate your orbiter if you feel its worn out.

[YaFilthy]

i knew someone would post that... its clearly a liset before railjack you couldnt even view outside of it actually all the doors had no content... also explain after mission in parties you see there "landing craft" as you say but there in there orbiter?????? actually since they added rail jack it makes even more sense your inside your landing craft since you can clearly see your rail jack ship above you or "Orbiter". calling it the landing craft 'orbiter' is basically referencing old outdated no new content patch.

[Silenzeio]

There's clear as day lore that says Orbiters and Landing Crafts are separate from one another.

Liset is a Landing Craft.

[YaFilthy]

Trolls tell me when you hunt arcane with your 'landing craft' and uses all your landin craft abilites any of your lore makes any sense... cuz u talkin its not a liset.. Liset is a clone of the orignal orbitor ... before any of these new contents skins got patched in. And your arguments clearly fall apart when you see others ships in your lobby fly off.. so either your wrong or they dev team has butched this feature and makes no sense to anyone who can think properly.

[Drago]

The Orbiter is conceptualized as a stealth base ship that mostly hides invisible or within the Void; the Landing Craft (like the Liset, a stealth and information gathering landing craft) are depicted to be the front nose of the much larger ship that constitutes Ordis current body. The Orbiter has a type of docking umbilical cord that connects to Railjack and allows the smaller ship to refuel and replace nutrients as well as transfer over gathered resources over the main stockpile.

Essentially think of the Orbiter as your main mobile home and you can take your personal car or transport - the Lander - down to actual mission nodes in real space after the Orbiter flies it near. The Railjack is a small frigate that allows attack missions and has its own Reliquary to allow it to do unassisted Void Jumps into non-solar Rail covered space. You can choose different Landers and they have different helper abilities but all serve the same function; getting the Tenno into a location undetected and get them out once the main objective is complete.

There is one bit of the game that sorta disagrees with this lore. The bit in Once Awake where Ordis mentions his systems and your arsenal where pillaged or vandalized when the Grineer scavenged the Liset that he had left waiting for you ever since he last saw the Operator before the big sleep. The Orbiter has all our mods and such; officially and is hidden in the void normally so it would have been weird to gain access just from that Liset.

[Firefrye]

Also to add onto this, the Liset is our *cannon* lander while the others are cosmetic skins but do not represent what our actual characters are flying in the story itself. There's even a point in the main story (no spoilers) where you get to see the orbiter from the outside while the Liset hovers above it's typical docking point.
You can also compare the size of your frame in any landing/extraction cutscene to see that the Liset is clearly far too small to contain all the rooms we walk around inside on the orbiter itself.

[YaFilthy]

i can see the infested virus has done its damage to these tenno maybe go re watch the nightwave emissary
refrence a bunch of lore that doesnt matter as we about to play warframe 1999 and listin to slipknot kpop neopets AOL in our JDM proto suite

or devs have completly butched this feature and should give us some new designs.

[maeharaprojekt]

The lore concerning whether the Liset is attached the top of the Orbiter's hull and represents the navigation segment/observation deck we find ourselves after missions, or is contained in a Lander Bay elsewhere, is still shaky.

The wiki currently states the following about where our active warframe is located in the Liset:

Overview

A Tenno rides a Landing Craft by magnetically attaching to a covered passenger compartment by its underbelly, which flips them over inside so they are lying on their back when they deploy into the mission's Insertion point by simply dropping down from it. Landing Craft can also position themselves vertically on extraction points, where the Tenno can ride simply by stepping into the passenger compartment's human-shaped recess, where they are secured before the Landing Craft can depart. Landing Craft can also carry heavy cargo like Fomorian Power Cores by using a tractor beam to attach objects to its underside.

This does not gel with descriptions further along in that page of the wiki that strongly suggest that the navigation segment/observation deck is in the Liset and the ramp that opens downward takes us into the Orbiter itself.

Whomever at DE, in current year, is the official loremaster and responsible for maintaining the Warframe knowledgebase (aka the Warframe Bible) could help the community by clearing this up. A detailed diagram of the Orbiter, where the Liset is located on or within it, and the exterior dimensions of these and the railjack would also be appreciated.

[YaFilthy]

Really though this all falls apart by just seeing your Teamates landers fly away after missions or it really loose cannon or [placeholder] because we are all inside our orbiter. Also the orbiter resembles the original lander liset layout suspiciously similar lotus. Okay there is a picture of the orbiter in the codex under fragments not only are the docks on the side of the ship but the layout is a multi tier Y not a liset triangle.. And ordis looks like something scary unlike his cepholon form

[maeharaprojekt]

引用自 YaFilthy：

Really though this all falls apart by just seeing your Teamates landers fly away after missions or it really loose cannon or [placeholder] because we are all inside our orbiter. Also the orbiter resembles the original lander liset layout suspiciously similar lotus.

Yeah. The interior of the Liset's "bridge" that we can walk around and fully upright without brushing any warframe's noggin on the ceiling, between missions, does not help at all.

My very first thought upon seeing the interior of the navigation deck in 2013 was, "It's a TARDIS?! This thing is bigger on the inside than what we can see from the outside!"

It got particularly weird after artwork of the exterior of the Orbiter became available.

[YaFilthy]

well now the lore trolls dont got anything to argue about cuz they were all wrong..

infestoids -1
acolytes +1

[TheVoidSpirit]

Anyone who played The New War can easily see that the Liset is not the Orbiter, just by going to Drifter's Camp

[YaFilthy]

clearly you infestoids dont understand your in the cannon lander liset right smack in the middle is the ejecto door for rail jack access

[TheVoidSpirit]

During The New War and in Drifters Camp, the Liset can be clearly seen hovering above the Orbiter, not attatched to it. The Orbiter is the big chunk of metal down in the cave. There is no way anyone can not see that.

[Drago]

引用自 YaFilthy：

i can see the infested virus has done its damage to these tenno maybe go re watch the nightwave emissary
refrence a bunch of lore that doesnt matter as we about to play warframe 1999 and listin to slipknot kpop neopets AOL in our JDM proto suite

or devs have completly butched this feature and should give us some new designs.

I like that, maybe you should suggest your neopets idea to DE - like Neopets infested, corpus, and Grineer but also Ordis and the other Cephalons. If nothing else it would be funny and tie into be cute to show up in Warframe 1999 - weird back bleed timey whimey - potentiality mixing. Considering they do have Rezner's Into the Void for that trailer, it makes sense to get Slipnot or other options there.