Deep Archimedea vs Netracells rewards

[Wintermute]

I just recently unlocked the Archimedea, and, at the moment, I'm forced into solo-play, and can't matchmake with people for the mode.

My question is - are the rewards worth it over Netracells? I'm not interested in archon shards anymore, I'm just looking for melee legendary arcanes. And my understanding is, all tiers of Archimedea and Elite Archemedea put the legendary arcanes into the "common" drop pool anyway, just like Netracells do.

Am I correct in that understanding? That netracells are exactly the same reward-wise for arcane farm?

[Firefrye]

Archimedea has a higher quantity of rewards (regardless of what they end up being) per "pulse" than Netracells. If you can complete the runs you will end up with more chances at any rewards you want than if you spent those 2 pulses in Netracells

[Kawalorn]

To be more precise, fully completing Deep Archimedea gives you 3 rolls on Netracell rewards, with roll 3 having better odds for better stuff.

Fully completing Elite Archimedea gives you 5 rolls with rolls 3 and 4 having better odds and roll 5 having guaranteed Tauforged Shard or Legendary Augment.

[DeAlph]

EDA drops melee legendary arcane frequently than we get shard, that why currently price of those arcane are dirt cheap, in EDA mission you have a chance to get 5x of melee arcane if you are good, check % of each drop table here : https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Archimedea

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by DeAlph:

EDA drops melee legendary arcane frequently than we get shard, that why currently price of those arcane are dirt cheap.

I don't think I'll be able to unlock EDA without some very specific warframe rolls.

Anyway, thanks for the answers guys.

[DeAlph]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by DeAlph:

EDA drops melee legendary arcane frequently than we get shard, that why currently price of those arcane are dirt cheap.

I don't think I'll be able to unlock EDA without some very specific warframe rolls.

Anyway, thanks for the answers guys.

You can use random gears, plus those 4x curses, plus EDA, and pick whatever Warframe you want to (like Revenant or Dante) because the last rewards give only 70 Vosfor and it isn't that good, so you can have 1 free gear.

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by DeAlph:

Originally posted by Wintermute:

I don't think I'll be able to unlock EDA without some very specific warframe rolls.

Anyway, thanks for the answers guys.

You can use random gears, plus those 4x curses, plus EDA, and pick whatever Warframe you want to (like Revenant or Dante) because the last rewards give only 70 Vosfor and it isn't that good, so you can have 1 free gear.

Yeah, but the EDA itself is locked behind doing a run with all modifires and restricted loadout. I'm not doing that solo without Octavia, lol.

[C486]

Worth depends on perspective, but it's a distraction if nothing else.

I don't agree with this method of handling difficulty, that's how the game is now - restricting gear options.

[rhoenix]

So, fun fact - you can bring your Railjack On-Call crew, among other summons, to a Deep Archimedia run.

Just saying.

[Kawalorn]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by DeAlph:

You can use random gears, plus those 4x curses, plus EDA, and pick whatever Warframe you want to (like Revenant or Dante) because the last rewards give only 70 Vosfor and it isn't that good, so you can have 1 free gear.

Yeah, but the EDA itself is locked behind doing a run with all modifires and restricted loadout. I'm not doing that solo without Octavia, lol.

If you have a friend, you can cheat it with them. You equip all the stuff needed for maximum score and your friend can take any OP gear they want and just carry you through the missions. Your gear is all that matters for your score.

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by Kawalorn:

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Yeah, but the EDA itself is locked behind doing a run with all modifires and restricted loadout. I'm not doing that solo without Octavia, lol.

If you have a friend, you can cheat it with them. You equip all the stuff needed for maximum score and your friend can take any OP gear they want and just carry you through the missions. Your gear is all that matters for your score.

I can't matchmake with people. Some provider shenaingans that leave me, effectively, playing solo.

I'll try the On-call crew and other summons once the modifiers are somewhat less annoying than this week.

[Firefrye]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by Kawalorn:

If you have a friend, you can cheat it with them. You equip all the stuff needed for maximum score and your friend can take any OP gear they want and just carry you through the missions. Your gear is all that matters for your score.

I can't matchmake with people. Some provider shenaingans that leave me, effectively, playing solo.

I'll try the On-call crew and other summons once the modifiers are somewhat less annoying than this week.

If you have Dante unlocked, setup a Dante Specter with a few of your better weapons. It'll feed you a ton of overguard. Other than him, it's worth looking up on the wiki what frame specters actually use their different abilities because it's very inconsistent and limited. Many frames are simply useless as specters, while others are crazy.

[Moby The Duck]

Netracell = Uses 1 try for a random reward with weighted drop chances.
Normal/Tau Shard, Melee Arcane, Melee Adapter. Tau Shards and Melee arcanes being rare.

Deep Arch = Uses 2 tries for 5 random rewards with different drop chances.
2 regular drops, 2 improved drops (tau shards and melee arcanes more common, melee adapter and normal shard rarer), 1 rare drop (always a tau shard or melee arcane)
Plus 3 Lanthorns and some Vosfor, but its basically nothing and its just filler.

[Drago]

I think DE was saying something about maybe making Netracell a little easier to run with normal teams coming soonish so that might help as well with running them. (I think the jist was making it so the drops still happened on kills outside the ring as long as a player was standing in the rings themselves. That would make it a lot less painful.

[Flint]

Do you have a VPN on when you're playing? I found I don't connect with anybody unless I turn mine off.

[Wintermute]

Originally posted by Flint ★★★★✰:

Do you have a VPN on when you're playing? I found I don't connect with anybody unless I turn mine off.

No, my government is having another stroke trying to slow down Youtube. And specifically my provider implemented it in such a way that it bricks WF matchmaking (happened on several occasions before). VPN is actually the only way to play with other people - I just can't be arsed to set it up just for WF. Don't have anything to do in coop anyway, other than EDA.

In the end of the day, I'll probably do Archimedea once or twice just for the experience of it, and buy the arcanes off the market (when that works too, lol). They really don't seem to be worth the bother.