Warframe | Why Do New Players REALLY Quit?

[FreedomInTruth]

Hey DE Devs, this one's for you...
https://youtu.be/sNn5Cqh8OVY

Hope it helps.

[itsNinjaToast]

it's a gabe eredeti hozzászólása:

Since we're here, I might as well share why I quit years ago and why I finally came back.

It's money. That's it. I couldn't afford platinum on a minimum wage when I lived in Brazil, nor could I justify the time spent on farming and selling goods to other players. The latter was extremely time-consuming and tedious. I'd spend more time farming stuff for platinum then I would for my own progression, and it took ages to accumulate so much as 50pt.

This game is grindy on a whole other level if you're playing entirely or mostly free and it's a massive slog, and that's coming from someone who likes grinding. No wonder they sell convenience for platinum.

And then I moved to the UK, got a Steam Deck, and thought I'd give Warframe another go to see how it played on the device. I even said out loud, which my husband caught, "I'm not gonna get back into Warframe, no way," but here I am...

I can now afford platinum, so I spend all the time farming stuff to progress my own build, which is fun. I don't much mind the ridiculous crafting times as I don't usually play games over the week thanks to the two-hour commute to and from work, so I can fire it up for 30min tops to farm a few mats and craft what I need and spend more time on the weekend.

All in all, I would not say that this game, despite being free, is that enjoyable if you can't or don't want to spend money on it. You will need platinum to unlock warframe and weapon slots and if farming reactors and forma becomes tedious, that's another barrier to enjoy the game as you won't be able to upgrade your frames and weapons.

I had quit for 2 years too, but i learned i didnt need to because there is a website called Warframe Market, i had so much valuable items worth just gaming dust, enough to end with 1000 play, i only spend money when i get 75% discount, aside from that i just well/buy on WF Market.
Google it my friend, its a must for all players, since Warframe itself as a terrible way to advertise items you want to sell or buy

[creamcone]

New players leave because their IQ is not high enough.

[Pinkspring]

The reason I quit was simple: I couldnt find my way around.
I couldnt figure out where all the cool content like Cetus and Fortuna was. I couldnt figure out how to run the story missions, or in which order.

All I saw was mindless planet grinding gating my access to the rest of the game, and it took me YEARS of bouncing and coming back to crawl out of that hole.

The railroading needs to be better.
Like I've been playing for 11 years on and off, and I only NOW discovered the railjack. Because nothing was pointing me at it.

That's insane.

This game has incredible content, but a lot of players just arn't aware it's there.

[Das Apple]

creamcone eredeti hozzászólása:

New players leave because their IQ is not high enough.

Or they see abysmal IQ of average WF player and decide to save their own.

[Apex Artist]

Reading this thread makes me consider playing Guild Wars 2 again.
Anyone here having played that game probably longs for a similar player gear sales setup, at the very least.
...and you certainly wouldn't miss fashionframe if you left WF for GW2, that's for certain.

[Doombunny]

Apex Artist eredeti hozzászólása:

Reading this thread makes me consider playing Guild Wars 2 again.
Anyone here having played that game probably longs for a similar player gear sales setup, at the very least.
...and you certainly wouldn't miss fashionframe if you left WF for GW2, that's for certain.

GW2 players are a different breed. That game is so jank and dated I'm surprised its still going.

[Apex Artist]

Doombunny eredeti hozzászólása:

GW2 players are a different breed. That game is so jank and dated I'm surprised its still going. [/quote]

I could make arguments that WF is just as dated, and after all, they released the same year. I already mentioned one way GW2 is miles ahead of WF. You want to sell something, post it for sale in the market, where you can see every other similar item for sale by players, and their pricing. Then don't lift a single finger for that item ever again, unless you want to adjust the price.
Want to start a new save with a different character? No problem, and it's certainly a collector's game, even though the class count is limited to 6 per game save.
WF will always have the edge on having a "class" collection focus, but I could also argue that isn't always a plus.
In Baldur's Gate 3 I can make a team of any 4 classes(or get silly and make them all the same class) I wan't and set them up just the way I wish, then play all of those characters together through the entire game, and on top of that can have loads of other game saves going about BG3 in a different way.
Importantly, both GW2 and BG3 do a good job of driving players to a goal. In part this is done by GW2 continuing to introduce new content, and with BG3 the game can go so many different ways, most players want to try varied play throughs.

I like WF for now, will it keep me from playing GW2 and BG3, not a chance. Will I keep playing WF for many years to come? Hmm, that's a tough question. We'll see.

[Knight]

To be honest I'm thinking of quitting soon as well, it's way too time consuming to grind, especially platinum, learning how to trade aside which a good amount of people struggle with, farming parts for plat takes time and waiting for someone to buy it from you through market and in game chat is more time consuming.

And I have to deal with a lot recently which leaves so little time to play and that small time I rather play a bit less grindy games like single player games such as Warhammer 40k marine 2, Core keeper, Poppy playtime and etc... these games have much faster pace and you don't need a friend to enjoy them.

and I have sinked in 1720h by now in this game and I think i got what I wanted out of it, I might return to experience the new stuff but not for grinding new weapons or mods or arcanes.

other thing is the builds, it keeps changing and for you to have a good Warframe to efficiently farm a certain mission, or weapons for that matter, as soon builds for something good comes out they nerf it to the point of making it near useless and now you have to grind plat and forma and Orokin catalyst and reactor for new builds

for short, life challenges and goals, game being way too grindy and time consuming(because of years of content obviously), and well wanting to be able to play other games as well

[Mr. Smiles]

Knight eredeti hozzászólása:

To be honest I'm thinking of quitting soon as well, it's way too time consuming to grind, especially platinum, learning how to trade aside which a good amount of people struggle with, farming parts for plat takes time and waiting for someone to buy it from you through market and in game chat is more time consuming.

And I have to deal with a lot recently which leaves so little time to play and that small time I rather play a bit less grindy games like single player games such as Warhammer 40k marine 2, Core keeper, Poppy playtime and etc... these games have much faster pace and you don't need a friend to enjoy them.

and I have sinked in 1720h by now in this game and I think i got what I wanted out of it, I might return to experience the new stuff but not for grinding new weapons or mods or arcanes.

other thing is the builds, it keeps changing and for you to have a good Warframe to efficiently farm a certain mission, or weapons for that matter, as soon builds for something good comes out they nerf it to the point of making it near useless and now you have to grind plat and forma and Orokin catalyst and reactor for new builds

for short, life challenges and goals, game being way too grindy and time consuming(because of years of content obviously), and well wanting to be able to play other games as well

Nekros casts Shadows Of the Dead.

This isn't an airport, there is no need to announce your departure.

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The New War is why.