Dragon keys... is the stuff in the vault even worth the trouble ? RNG is kidding me

[starman01]

Hi all,

desperatly seeking for new stuff to do on solo, so I decided to try these strange key things on deimos.

I run the extermination mission with the bleeding dragon key equipped... 5 times in a row the room needed the decaying key.... So i already doubt a working rng system here.

So I equipped the decaying key, and in the next run the vault suddenly wants the bleeding key, the one I just unequipped... I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the RNG here...

So how it is really working ? Must I equip all four keys, is this real RNG, and is the stuff in the vault even worth the trouble ?

[Synopse]

The mods are worth the effort. DE did put an one-time event last year to make them more available.
Series can feel odd, but are just random. Our brain is looking for patterns and always will find one.

If you solo the vaults, I recommend to carry all 4 dragon keys. No more RNG.

[NashEquil]

If you don't have good equipment or are worried about the effects of 4 keys, use Limbo. Equip all 4 keys, go into Horend (Capture mission), dash once to go into the void and find capture target, dash out of void, capture the target, dash into the void, find the vault, done.

Also don't forget... Parallax's Orokin Eye Air Support Ability can detect Orokin Vaults making it even easier.

[starman01]

I'm quite well equipped, and deimos is low level, so I guess I will have to try with all 4 keys then.... Have a Wukong, so I have a battle ally with me plus companion. Just wanted to avoid all the negative effects :) Specially the slow walks sucks a lot


Thanks for the tipp with the detection, but I don't have parallax yet.

Thanks guys, i try again.... Just was really annoyed because RNG and I NEVER (no matter the game) are on good terms :)

[Synopse]

Good luck, Tenno!

[starman01]

Thanks :)

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

Originally posted by starman01:

Hi all,

desperatly seeking for new stuff to do on solo, so I decided to try these strange key things on deimos.

I run the extermination mission with the bleeding dragon key equipped... 5 times in a row the room needed the decaying key.... So i already doubt a working rng system here.

So I equipped the decaying key, and in the next run the vault suddenly wants the bleeding key, the one I just unequipped... I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the RNG here...

So how it is really working ? Must I equip all four keys, is this real RNG, and is the stuff in the vault even worth the trouble ?

1. The mods are worth it.

2. Its intended to be run by a group and everyone takes a different key. Its not broken RNG, this part of the game is just not intended to be soloed so if you're playing by yourself its going to be harder.

If you don't want to run 4 keys you can try just two - there you'll have at least a 50% chance;)

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

Just equip all the keys at once and run either capture (faster if you can find the door faster) or exterminate (generally less rooms but slower).

Yes, there are a lot of mods that are essential to building frames, especially for top/endgame builds. With that said, while there are some really good ones like Blind Rage, Fleeting Expertise, and Critical Delay, there are also a bunch of unessential or garbage ones.

So it's important to farm intelligently and not burn yourself out to frustrations. Here are a few tips:
1) Get a beefy frame with indirect damage reduction like overguard or with skills and damage boosts. I would suggest Rhino (Prime) since he has both.
2) Get your best hard hitting weapon since your damage will be reduced, paired with a damage buff, you should be able to kill everything no problem.
3) Mod regularly but add a sprint boost
4) Keep a stack of 5 keys at all times, with the foundry constantly baking. There are times where you'll find yourself opening the vault with the same key and not keeping it topped off might ruin a good run. Also, keeping a stack will not remove it from your gearwheel, so you won't have to go to the arsenal to reslot it every single time.
5) Again, be smart about your farm. If you're trying to hunt down one of the rarer ones but have been grinding to no avail, trade duplicates of the good ones and use the plat to get what you want. For example, Catalyzing Shields is only 24p right now and Blind Rage is 14, so it'll take less time.
OPTIONAL) Having a really good Operator+Amp build will help a lot since they aren't affected by the debuffs and they can travel much quicker.

[SmallGespenst]

The mods are important for optimisation and you can't get them other ways without trading, so yeah, it's worth it. Deimos is low level anyway so as long as you can deal with the slow movement it's fine to just run four-keys.
If you're at a level where it's hard, you probably don't need the mods though, so don't worry about it.

[Ittrix]

The idea was that you'd farm them in groups, and have each squad member carry a different key.

The content didn't 'stick' very long (not much reason to go back once you get the mods and a few copies of them) so now everyone just does it solo and carries all four keys.


The loot in the vaults are all "corrupted" mods, which trade one stat for another. The ones for frames are typically used the most.
They have a lot of uses in min/maxing. You can raise certain stats much higher with the use of corrupted mods, or dump stats you don't care about to get better bonuses on other frames.
You'll typically want at least one of each of them.

I say "at least" since a couple of them are helpful to have at different ranks.
Fleeting Expertise is handy to have a maxed copy of. If you want to use streamline with it however, efficiency actually caps out at 75%. It's better to have a rank 4 Fleeting Expertise to pair with your streamline in that scenario so you'll save on duration.
If you're just trying to reach a certain breakpoint for an ability, Blind Rage & Transient Fortitude are handy at different ranks too.

There's some uses for the weapon mods too, but better options are typically around for *most of them these days. It's mostly the warframe mods people love from the vaults.

[Ronin Gamer]

Some don't hold up as well now a days, but some of them in there are still pretty good depending how you are building your warframe. Depending on what frame you take in as well it's not all that hard to wear all four keys and solo it. I've done that, but I'm a more advanced account so that is likely in my favor at that point.

[Guts]

You pretty much need overextended and blind rage, so might as well get a group together to farm them. Even just a partner helps, since having two keys isn't so bad. Bullet jump isn't effected by the hobbled dragon key, by the way, so you don't have to move super slow.

[starman01]

Thanks all... I make the runs without the "slow motion" key, so it's a 75% chance.... Deimos is very easy and no problem even with reduced shield and health, my weapon (Kohm) shreds everything in no time.

Also as said, i figured out that bullet jump still works, so it's acceptable.