Are the drifter and the operator the same person?

[Tony DeRanger]

So something that has confused me is the difference between the operator, the tenno on board the Zariman who was then placed in a pod on Lua, and the drifter who you play as in Duviri and after the new war, the same person. What is even more confusing is connection between the Duviri Drifter, and the new war Drifter, if I am to assume the Drifter escaped Duviri during Ballas's rule and becoming the protagonist later, instead of the operator as an adult? So which is it?

[RedEssence]

Originally posted by KitKat:

- Drifter is literally THE SAME child from Zariman Ten-Zero, but an alternate version - one who didn't get out from Zariman stuck in the void. Instead, they got pulled into Duviri and grew up there over time;

The drifter created Duviri, its a form of conceptual embodiment

[romy]

operator is teenage you
drifter is adult you

that's what happen to teenager games that survive more than a decade.

[Rays of Apollo]

Originally posted by Kawalorn:

Originally posted by jvjd:

Same person same Universe , time in war-frame is different

Past ,Present and future happens at the same time. Its weird but it is what it is

Nah, one thing the plot is clear about is the fact that every decision you make splits timeline into opposite choices. Drifter isn't future Operator, it's Operator who made a different decision.

It's part of the quiz at the start of New War.

Hmmm, so making the deal with Man in the Wall was the first "choice". Wonder if it was light or dark by this game's logic.

[Darth Bane]

Originally posted by romy:

operator is teenage you
drifter is adult you

that's what happen to teenager games that survive more than a decade.

I didn't know that you change skin color and gender as you age. Interesting.

[Hotklou]

Originally posted by Darth Bane:

Originally posted by romy:

operator is teenage you
drifter is adult you

that's what happen to teenager games that survive more than a decade.

I didn't know that you change skin color and gender as you age. Interesting.

It's a Tenno thing, didn't you know?

[Darth Bane]

Originally posted by Hotklou:

Originally posted by Darth Bane:

I didn't know that you change skin color and gender as you age. Interesting.

It's a Tenno thing, didn't you know?

No, that Tenno are trans-skin color and trans-gender is news to me. Thank you for the enlightenment.

[Hotklou]

Originally posted by Darth Bane:

Originally posted by Hotklou:

It's a Tenno thing, didn't you know?

No, that Tenno are trans-skin color and trans-gender is news to me. Thank you for the enlightenment.

You are welcome. Besides, you can literally unlock new skin colors for your operator and change their gender, skin color and voice on a whim in the Orbiter.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Originally posted by Australian-Cave-Dweller:

Originally posted by Fake:

Same person. Different Multiverse.

Ah right has to be some dimensional ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with DE doesn't it? Because why make warframe's plot straightforward

Because it's not about the plot. It's about the characters. Get too wrapped up trying to figure out the plot details, and you'll lose sight of what's actually happening in the story.

[Rays of Apollo]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Originally posted by Australian-Cave-Dweller:

Ah right has to be some dimensional ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with DE doesn't it? Because why make warframe's plot straightforward

Because it's not about the plot. It's about the characters. Get too wrapped up trying to figure out the plot details, and you'll lose sight of what's actually happening in the story.

"Get too wrapped up trying to figure out [what's actually happened in the story], and you'll lose sight of what's actually happening in the story"

Is that what you're saying right now?

[Metalshock]

To be absolutely fair, the major plot point of the void in general already made the Multiverse thing make... the closest thing to sense it can. It's an otherworldly plane in which nothing is consistent. A lonely child can enter the void and come out with an ominous, grinning identical twin. animals can enter the void and come out with human level intelligence. A whole world can be created from the mind of a child lost to the Void.

Another point to note is the Railjacks. because of Warframe's lore, there are dozens upon dozens of railjacks. all of them are ran using a Void-powered engine fueled by one of the Man in the Wall's fingers... but when you actually see the "True form" of the Man in the wall, he's only missing a single stone finger.

The Void is everything, and the void is nothing. It is every truth and every lie. No, it doesn't make sense, but I do believe that is the point.

[Alpha-methyl]

I think the game is great - but I think it's writing is awful. The reason any multiverse exists in any of our entertainment, is because they had an idea but already wrote themselves into a corner.

I've long been of the opinion that with competent game design, and some decent storytelling ability to go with it, this game would be massively more popular than it already is.

I'm a fan - but no amount of fanboyism can draw my gaze away from some of these more obvious faults. I WANT the game to be better - primarily because I think it's very fun to play and those faults keep pretty much every gamer I know irl from actually getting online and playing Warframe with me - so I'm stuck with randoms.

If they'd make this a more coherent experience, this game would really be something special in my opinion. I like it for what it is, sure... but at this stage, figuring out how to combine it all proper would take maybe a bright idea or two, but wouldn't require a glut of additional content.

Basically, they have the pieces. They just ...don't seem to like jigsaw puzzles very much so they poured some glue on the table and called the pile "Warframe" haha...

[lowgrav]

multiverse theroy should not be used for a way out as if you think about it why would it work?
to save your world another you comes to help ....... but if hes here in your world then that means his world no longer has him if events are happening simmilar like sure we got rescued he didnt how would that stop the new war from conspiring that event being bigger than just 1 person would still happen sure 1 person can stop it but hes not there hes here instead so why would you abandon your world to save one you just found out about knowing full well that mabey you have a part to play in your world but sorry world ballis rules unchalanged as drifter decided to go help another multiverse hope balis dont discover that bridge and decide to expand his reach and invade the next multiverse plane over

bottom line you cant just multivers jump as that means there is 1 less person in one world and 1 extra in the other

[Doom Sayer]

Thing is the drifters backstory isnt really remotely explained. Operators is. Drifter basically came into existence, defeated bully child, left and 'joined' operator. Whatever even happened is unclear are there just two of the same person one older one younger from difference universes on same ship? Is every Tenno/ canonically having same weird ♥♥♥♥?

[Metalshock]

Originally posted by Doom Sayer:

Thing is the drifters backstory isnt really remotely explained. Operators is. Drifter basically came into existence, defeated bully child, left and 'joined' operator. Whatever even happened is unclear are there just two of the same person one older one younger from difference universes on same ship? Is every Tenno/ canonically having same weird ♥♥♥♥?

So, to be clear... no. It's only the Main Character Tenno that's dealing with the Drifter. Because it was the Main Tenno (which is every player character but Warframe isn't the only multiplayer game that has the player character be the "Main character") was the one who made the deal with the Man in the Wall. They are the reason the Tenno have power. And, from what I understand, the Man in the Wall, for the fun of it, cloned you with Void nonsense to torture a version of you for all eternity... or at least, until someone got a sword in the back.

[Roball]

I think it goes like this:

A child accepts the man in the walls bargain. Triggering the power of void control in all the children. In one timeline that's my character, in others it's yours, etc.
(You also catch a glimpse of countless 'you's' accepting the bargain and dying from it, implying the odds of surviving the deal in most timelines is very low).

The Tenno, are a timeline where they were rescued from the Zariman. Got raised and trained my Margulis, and eventually Nata, and were linked to the Warframes by Ballas.

The Drifter, didn't accept the bargain, or get rescued, instead the void reacted to him/her and created a world called Duviri as a form of escapism. But somewhere along the way, he/she lost track of time, and memory and eventually control of Duviri, to a created being that resembles his/her favorite toy.

Duviri Drifter, gets granted their void power from Natas hand, that was drawn into the void with the Tenno, when Ballas 'killed' them. (Big Tenno, Nata, Drifter bond formed.)

Nata is unique among Mimic Sentients, cos while still made sterile by void energy she's able to use it, likely a power developed from being a Mimic in close proximity to Tenno.
(And Ballas' meddling with her.)

When they regain control, they can leave, becoming the Drifter of The New War, and linking up with their Tenno self in a now shared timeline.

If Duviri drifter chooses to leave Duviri, they recover Nata's dying body, return her hand (somehow) and lose their void powers temporarily.

New War Drifter, gets granted their void power from contact with their Tenno counterpart on reviving Nata. (Again, they are linked via the void and via each other.)

Likewise, if either the Tenno, or the Drifter go back to Duviri, they become the Duviri Drifter, cos that realm is eternally looped in time, rather than branching like regular timelines. You once again become an 'actor on a stage'.