So what *is* an Eximus Unit?

[Mr. Brimstone]

I've had this question for a while now and it's only been amplified by the introduction of this most recent quest. No one has ever given me a solid answer and nothing I've researched into has really shed any meaningful light.

Prior to this new update, the best notion I've ever been given is that Eximus Units are just individuals loaded with tech or in higher ranking positions. One fellow on a forum I can't be bothered to dredge up made a statement along the lines of 'They're Orokin tech', but that never made sense to me either, at least for one particular reason. Each faction, barring Corrupted and Murmur, have their own UNIQUE Eximus. Guardian, Arson, and Venomous. But at the same time, they all have 'shared' Eximus units (Arctic, Blitz, Leech and now Jade).

The new Jade quest introduces the notion that a Warframe can be responsible for the CREATION of Eximus, since the whole event revolves around collecting what's left of the woman to stop the Corpus from mass producing a new Eximus unit.

So are Eximus Units made from Warframes or is this a one off instance? It'd make sense if they were ALL made from frames, but there's a certain finality to the fact that Jade is just, you know, ♥♥♥♥♥♥' dead? We the Tenno can replicate MORE of her, but the lore implications of there being multiple of the same Warframe also sort of flies over my head, since as far as I'm concerned they're all made from a person under the ill effects of Technocyte. If Eximus units are made of warframes, this also further adds to the motives some of the earlier game villains have. Vor and Alad V specifically come to mind, both wanting Warframes/Components for their own studies.

Idunno, maybe someone has an actual answer and I'm just dense, but I'm asking this out of morbid curiosity.

[CY13ERPUNK]

all warframes that we pilot are effectively clones , ie they are recreated/grown by our helminth/foundry

the other factions do not have exactly the same kind of tech/capabilities that our orbiter/ship has , thus they are incapable of fully copying/understanding the tenno/WF tech so they cannot reverse engineer their own WFs/biodrones

and yet many of them have come close , ie Alad with Zanuka , the Worm with her kuva liches , Parvos with his Sisters , etc

Eximus units are similar but to a lesser degree , the tenno are fighting all across the system and every fallen WF leaves behind parts/tech that can be utilized with leftover orokin tech that each faction has some stockpile of

i think a strong parallel is in the WH40K universe where the modern era of mankind cannot reproduce much of the ancient tech that they find , so what they have is only what they can maintain and/or stumble across

i think the story beats around Alad/Vor are right on target with the desire to acquire more tenno/WF tech , and thus the rise of Eximus units are a direct result of the factions making use of what they can find and/or get their hands on

[[88th] ColPresumptuous]

I always assumed the Eximus where Elite Units given some control over Void energy, hence they can manifest basic 'space magic' similar to a Warframe controlled by an Operator.

Doesnt make much sense with the Infested though, unless theirs is a natural ability instead of training or augmenting to allow control over Void Energy.

[Spirit]

i think its nothing more then a game mechanic to give you a bullet sponge to waste your ammo into because abilities wont work on them

[Drago]

It used to be stated in-game that Eximus were elites of the faction that were boosted using that faction's understanding of faction tech or gear based off their understanding of Orokin tech or that recovered from our warframes as with what Vor and Alad V were independently doing. Infested it was said to be more powerful strains, adaptations, or mutations to overcome foes. It probably only matters now that they are supposed to be tougher enemies. Maybe there isn't supposed to be a real lore reason anymore.

[NocheLuz]

You do know that Warframe is a thing using Orokin Technology right? I think they just reverse engineer that and instead of using Void energy, they use other sources of energy. Considering the Corpus also has the Nullifier that disables all types of Warframe ability. I think it is safe to assume that they also have reverse engineers on how to use them as well.

While Corpus uses reverse engineering technology, Grineer also has access to some of the Orokin Technology as well, considering the Twin Queen are Orokin themself. The Infested just has to infect those Eximus units and become an army of Eximus for Infested. The Orokin as well, as the Neural Sentry just has to control the Eximus units from other factions.

[TheTool]

If ya gotta take a leak, don't AFK while standing on the coffin. pls hide in a corner or something.

[Mr. Brimstone]

Originally posted by CY13ERPUNK:

all warframes that we pilot are effectively clones , ie they are recreated/grown by our helminth/foundry

the other factions do not have exactly the same kind of tech/capabilities that our orbiter/ship has , thus they are incapable of fully copying/understanding the tenno/WF tech so they cannot reverse engineer their own WFs/biodrones

and yet many of them have come close , ie Alad with Zanuka , the Worm with her kuva liches , Parvos with his Sisters , etc

Eximus units are similar but to a lesser degree , the tenno are fighting all across the system and every fallen WF leaves behind parts/tech that can be utilized with leftover orokin tech that each faction has some stockpile of

i think a strong parallel is in the WH40K universe where the modern era of mankind cannot reproduce much of the ancient tech that they find , so what they have is only what they can maintain and/or stumble across

i think the story beats around Alad/Vor are right on target with the desire to acquire more tenno/WF tech , and thus the rise of Eximus units are a direct result of the factions making use of what they can find and/or get their hands on

This probably makes the most sense, I just wonder what Warframes would have been used for a few of the Eximus

Some are obvious. Arson is probably something like Ember. Arctic is Frost, etc. Guardian, Blitz, and the Leech Eximus units leave blanks in my mind though. Specifically Blitz, given it's a very generalist 'skill' at their disposal. There are a number of Frames with a blast or knock down effect.

[YoloMoth]

Originally posted by 88th ColPresumptuous:

I always assumed the Eximus where Elite Units given some control over Void energy, hence they can manifest basic 'space magic' similar to a Warframe controlled by an Operator.

Doesnt make much sense with the Infested though, unless theirs is a natural ability instead of training or augmenting to allow control over Void Energy.

With infested it makes more sense if you do the base 10 scans for simaris. It has text story about a couple of orokin siblings, one is lost to the infested and one is with a grineer(?) military squad. The still alive sibling notices that their sibling should be dead, yet they feel their control of orokin tech still being used by their twin. I would assume in that case that despite the heavy body horror corruption, the hive mind of the infested can still operate the same tech that gives the corpus and grineer control over the same powers.

The murmur though would be a bit harder to explain. Other than just MiW copying what he sees in the origin system.

[Drago]

Originally posted by NocheLuz:

You do know that Warframe is a thing using Orokin Technology right? I think they just reverse engineer that and instead of using Void energy, they use other sources of energy. Considering the Corpus also has the Nullifier that disables all types of Warframe ability. I think it is safe to assume that they also have reverse engineers on how to use them as well.

While Corpus uses reverse engineering technology, Grineer also has access to some of the Orokin Technology as well, considering the Twin Queen are Orokin themself. The Infested just has to infect those Eximus units and become an army of Eximus for Infested. The Orokin as well, as the Neural Sentry just has to control the Eximus units from other factions.

Sorta yeah, infested tech is stated by Ballas to have potentially predated the fall of humanity on Earth and the rise of the Orokin Empire - a tongue in cheek reference by DE Steve to DarkSector most likely - but yeah modern warframes were designed by Orokin archimedian and all that. All well said on your summary!