Noob Question: Do I really have to do certain content islands to unlock steel path?

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Bit of a Rant: Be Kind. I Know the mode requires skill and the veterans of Warframe are 'factually' awesome at it. I realize and have read it's "not that hard" I hear you. I get it. I respect that.

But Eidolon Hunting is not for me. I play solo. I play with a friend who also enjoys the starchart in solo mode only for the most part. Very occasionally we'll play a mission together, for fun. But with Eidolon hunts and Amps we don't really like what we're seeing.

(using the Necramechs, or using amps is not for me (us). We didn't play hours of warframe with any information that we would be led towards this mode of play so many hours into the game.

EDIT: The ordinary Starchart, which I think is straightforward fun, with mod configs, experimenting with different melee and primary and secondary weapon types, and learning the synergies with different warframes....is simply SO good. XD

This is fun for me. This I've invested hours into. DE has made a masterpiece in this area of content, imho. But if I skip the other stuff do I lock myself out of Steelpath?

NOTE: I now see it's not eidolon hunting at all, rather 'the war within' quest that has special requirements that must be done in order to progress to steel path, along with opening up all the nodes on the starchart.
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TLDR: Can eidolon hunting be skipped, along with Amps and RailJack? Can steel path be unlocked without the above?

I think this is a yes or no question. IDK. GGs and thanks in advance for your patience reading my wall of text.

[Nibbie]

TLDR yes (or no to your title question)

The only requirement for unlocking Steel Path is completing every node in the entire normal star chart. This requires the completion of several quests, most notably The New War, which requires you to own a necramech and railjack (although you don't need them for very long and they don't need to be strong, or really modded at all). It and several other quests also feature Operator and other unique/gimmicky gameplay; building a better amp isn't required for these, but may make some of them harder.

I'm not sure why you would think Eidolons of all things are mandatory, are you referring to something other than killing the big bosses on the Plains of Eidolon?

[Sonico]

Eidolon Hunts and Amps can be skipped, but not Railjack. Not for Steel Path mind you (you don't even need to touch the last one) but because it's one of the requirements for some story quests.

Luckly you don't need to invest too much for that.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Nibbie:

TLDR yes (or no to your title question)

The only requirement for unlocking Steel Path is completing every node in the entire normal star chart. This requires the completion of several quests, most notably The New War, which requires you to own a necramech and railjack (although you don't need them for very long and they don't need to be strong, or really modded at all). It and several other quests also feature Operator and other unique/gimmicky gameplay; building a better amp isn't required for these, but may make some of them harder.

I'm not sure why you would think Eidolons of all things are mandatory, are you referring to something other than killing the big bosses on the Plains of Eidolon?

EDIT:

Thank you for this answer.

It seems I may have confused, which I hope is understandable in this multi-layered game, Eidolon hunting with the New War quests content and requirements. I thought they were interconnected for some reason.

From your really clear answer I think that you're saying "only requirement for unlocking Steel Path is completing every node in the entire normal star chart. This requires the completion of several quests, most notably The New War, which requires you to own a necramech and railjack....."

So from that I gather that "the new war" requires:

1. The 'farming or purchase of a necramech' (I assume if I were to buy one with a plat sale then the quest just allows a player to start it, given I have a railjack also.)

2. I do have a railjack. (Because the quests one does to make that were straightforward for me and required no significant farming or purchasing of a new item.)

3. Then I will need to do some unique/gimmicky gameplay but 'building a better amp or upgrading my railjack is not required' to pass that content, if I read that right. (But it makes it harder) I wonder how much harder?

4. Operator mode is a thing that can be completed without upgrades. (So my friend and I can focus on the core warframes, game weapons, and mods fun!)

After that we would need to finish other quests, and all the nodes in the starchart, and then we can open up steel path.

EDIT: At this time I'm reading that there are no other 'special requirements' other than the above, pretty much, in order to open up steel path.

Thank you. That makes sense.

GGs

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Sonico:

Eidolon Hunts and Amps can be skipped, but not Railjack. Not for Steel Path mind you (you don't even need to touch the last one) but because it's one of the requirements for some story quests.

Luckly you don't need to invest too much for that.

Thank you XD

GGs.

[player7112]

Originally posted by Casual Dojo: GGs :-):

Bit of a Rant: Be Kind. I Know the mode requires skill and the veterans of Warframe are 'factually' awesome at it. I realize and have read it's "not that hard" I hear you. I get it. I respect that.

It doesn't require any superhuman skills or "Veteran secret power" you thought, 99% of Warframe content is for casuals, Anyone can do most of the content with almost no effort.

Yes, you heard it right, any casual players can do it.

Veteran's gear might be more powerful than yours but that's because Warframe is a game that rewards player as much as their invested time/money, not because they have superhuman reflex.

You only need to know the right way, that's what the Dojo/Guides system are for, masters are here to give you their most powerful guides they spent hours/days to unlock, while you can learn these technique from them within a few minutes.

For example, Mission XXX is too hard for you to complete but if you have the master's guidance, you could complete it within 5 minutes, effortlessly.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by soonoooli:

Originally posted by Casual Dojo: GGs :-):

Bit of a Rant: Be Kind. I Know the mode requires skill and the veterans of Warframe are 'factually' awesome at it. I realize and have read it's "not that hard" I hear you. I get it. I respect that.

It doesn't require any superhuman skills or "Veteran secret power" you thought, 99% of Warframe content is for casuals, Anyone can do most of the content with almost no effort.

Yes, you heard it right, any casual players can do it.

Veteran's gear might be more powerful than yours but that's because Warframe is a game that rewards player as much as their invested time/money, not because they have superhuman reflex.

You only need to know the right way, that's what the Dojo/Guides system are for, masters are here to give you their most powerful guides they spent hours/days to unlock, while you can learn these technique from them within a few minutes.

For example, Mission XXX is too hard for you to complete but if you have the master's guidance, you could complete it within 5 minutes, effortlessly.

You speak truth.

Not only is that quite helpful and encouraging XD - "master's guidance" - to know there is a faster way, in certain missions, with certain setups, in certain contexts etc etc

But it's also quite "mystical and kungfu-ee" what you say sifu of Tenno XD

Your Sincerely,

Kung-fu Panda

Jokes aside, thanks for the encouraging words!
And perhaps along with 'fashion frame' and 'farm-frame' another nick name could be
research-frame. :-)

[Sceles]

You don't need to do railjack, only regular star chart nodes. But you need to do lots of main story to unlock access to all star chart nodes. You need to take a very small dip in railjack to progress in main story.

Railjack is important for farming purposes. Eidolons can be skipped pretty much entirely.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Sceles:

You don't need to do railjack, only regular star chart nodes. But you need to do lots of main story to unlock access to all star chart nodes. You need to take a very small dip in railjack to progress in main story.

Railjack is important for farming purposes. Eidolons can be skipped pretty much entirely.

Railjack is important for farming purposes. - Roger that. Thanks

[tv]

You can skip eidolons and get their stuff from the cavia later, but you'll pay dearly for not having a non standard amp multiple times later on. Ropalolyst, Thrax ghosts, Umbra, Purple shield Raknoids etc. Railjack also gives tons of resources for the helminth.

[Whovencroft]

As others have said, you only need to complete the star chart, and aside from gaining an Archwing, which I assume you have, and a Railjack, which you said you have, you'll need to build a Necramech, which isn't all that difficult.

You won't need to mod either of them in any special way, just slap any you happen to get on there, the quests in which they are required are passable without any equipped mods on either of those.

You can skip Eidolons in their entirety if you want. The amp the game provides is good enough to carry you through to the late game.

Completing The New War quest provides you with an amp that is strong enough to handle any content you felt the first one could not.

[Aesthier]

Basic Star chart only requirement.

Mastery level 30 approved and i didn't touch New War.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Whovencroft:

As others have said, you only need to complete the star chart, and aside from gaining an Archwing, which I assume you have, and a Railjack, which you said you have, you'll need to build a Necramech, which isn't all that difficult.

You won't need to mod either of them in any special way, just slap any you happen to get on there, the quests in which they are required are passable without any equipped mods on either of those.

You can skip Eidolons in their entirety if you want. The amp the game provides is good enough to carry you through to the late game.

Completing The New War quest provides you with an amp that is strong enough to handle any content you felt the first one could not.

I have the following items that I farmed. All good.

1. Archwing - check
2. Railjack - check
3. Necramech - No. Not yet. (I understand that I'll need to farm or purchase one with plat. ta.)
4. "Slap on mods that are picked up but not mandatory" - got it
5. "Can skip eidolons if I want" - got it.
6. "New War quest completion provides an amp that is strong enough to handle any content." - got it.

Thanks to ya'll again.

Back to beloved Warframe movement properties and the core weapons mod system that's genius and fun, imho.

[C.D.J. Grazza]

Originally posted by Aesthier:

Basic Star chart only requirement.

Mastery level 30 approved and i didn't touch New War.

I read this as you're "MR30 with only the core star chart - steel path not unlocked" -

Nice one. This shows me that one can play warframe in one's own way. That the good folks at DE have not created any barriers to ranking up to MR30 if one wanted, that involves 'having to do New War content' AFAIK and if I read you correctly. Thank you.

Sorry typos: Blooming autocorrect.

[Aesthier]

Originally posted by Casual Dojo: GGs :-):

Originally posted by Aesthier:

Basic Star chart only requirement.

Mastery level 30 approved and i didn't touch New War.

I read this as you're "MR30 with only the core star chart - steel path not unlocked" -

Nice one. This shows me that one can play warframe in one's own way. That the good folks at DE have not created any barriers to ranking up to MR30 if one wanted, that involves 'having to do New War content' AFAIK and if I read you correctly. Thank you.

Sorry typos: Blooming autocorrect.

**Update**

I actually meant that New War isn't required to do steel path or at least "wasn't" at one time.

I have still have Steel Path access, a fully functional Railjack, and have never attempted New War (I reinstalled and just logged in and verified).

However I do not know if New War is a new requirement for steel path as the wiki page is showing it as such.


Other than that you pretty much nailed what I was trying to get across.

I also have only done one or two Eidolons that a friend dragged me through, other than that I farmed "fleas" (Vomvalysts) to work my faction for amps.

Content that I avoided was Eidolons, Orb Mothers, Kuva Lichs, Conclave, etc... just wasn't content that I enjoyed.

So yes Mastery Rank can be progressed to a far degree without those things however to max it (legendary etc) you will have to venture into said content at some point is my guess.

[Ifeanyi]

Originally posted by Aesthier:

Originally posted by Casual Dojo: GGs :-):

**Update**

I actually meant that New War isn't required to do steel path or at least "wasn't" at one time.

I have still have Steel Path access, a fully functional Railjack, and have never attempted New War (I reinstalled and just logged in and verified).

However I do not know if New War is a new requirement for steel path as the wiki page is showing it as such.

Yea sadly it is now. 2 new areas were added after the new war, The zariman and sanctum anatomica . Each one has mission nodes that also need to be completed to unlock steel path as well as arbitration now.
So to unlock SP now, you pretty much have to complete all major story quests.