Warframe vs. a WH40k Space Marine

[Def]

Who would win?

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Publicado originalmente por Kawalorn:

As an all out war? Imperium just nukes the solar system, cause it would be too much of a bother otherwise.

Nah Grendel will just eat them all since he is very much capable of doing so (and he can eat much much more than that).

[Incunabulum]

Publicado originalmente por Def:

Who would win?

Tenno are Eldar Aspect Warriors.

If you know anything about 40k then you know what you need to know to answer that question.

[Incunabulum]

Publicado originalmente por Illusive Soul:

id pick at Warframe if 1v1,but if race vs race,space marine could win,because space marine have big brain,they study enemy and good at tatics.

Space marine is way more scary than Warframe,once they get 1 dead warframe,they could study how Warframe work,and maybe you gonna see Space marine mix with warframe thing,using warframe skill agains Warframe.

Marines don't do the things you are saying they do.

Marines don't do their own research and the AdMech doesn't do a lot of original research either.

[Midas]

Publicado originalmente por Incunabulum:

Publicado originalmente por Illusive Soul:

id pick at Warframe if 1v1,but if race vs race,space marine could win,because space marine have big brain,they study enemy and good at tatics.

Space marine is way more scary than Warframe,once they get 1 dead warframe,they could study how Warframe work,and maybe you gonna see Space marine mix with warframe thing,using warframe skill agains Warframe.

Marines don't do the things you are saying they do.

Marines don't do their own research and the AdMech doesn't do a lot of original research either.

Omophagea
Phase 8: This implant, also called "the Remembrancer", allows a Space Marine to 'learn by eating'. It is situated in the spinal cord but is actually part of the brain. Four nerve bundles are implanted connecting the spine and the stomach wall. Able to 'read' or absorb genetic material consumed by the marine, the omophagea transmits the gained information to the Marine's brain as a set of memories or experiences. It is the presence of this organ which has led to the various flesh-eating and blood-drinking rituals for which the Astartes are famous, as well as giving names to chapters such as the Blood Drinkers and Flesh Tearers. Over time, mutations in this implant have given some chapters unnatural cravings for blood or flesh.

Space marines are weird. Still wouldn't be enough to defeat a warframe, though.

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Publicado originalmente por Goatman:

Publicado originalmente por Kawalorn:

As an all out war? Imperium just nukes the solar system, cause it would be too much of a bother otherwise.

Nah Grendel will just eat them all since he is very much capable of doing so (and he can eat much much more than that).

i would pay too see that lol

[lil rat]

I normally steer CLEAR of anything doing vs 40k but I'm kinda convinced Warframes can absolutely body space marines, not easily ofc but when there are like 55(or 57 cuz of Jade and Dante coming I think) different Warframes with such variety of powers, weapons, the ABILITY to mod weapons against specific foes yeah SM are going to NEED overwhelming FORCE every time they encounter the tenno.

[verbtime]

i feel like people are glossing over the absolute powerhouse that necramechs are
voidrig is literally a mobile artillery emplacement
bonewidow has a massive shield and could probably win any melee engagement

[Fake]

In a 1 on 1 death match, I would give the win to the Warframe.

However, if we are talking about war, my money is on the Imperium of Man.

Tennos are a disorganized gaggle that fights for personal interests.

[Guts]

Publicado originalmente por lil rat:

I normally steer CLEAR of anything doing vs 40k but I'm kinda convinced Warframes can absolutely body space marines, not easily ofc but when there are like 55(or 57 cuz of Jade and Dante coming I think) different Warframes with such variety of powers, weapons, the ABILITY to mod weapons against specific foes yeah SM are going to NEED overwhelming FORCE every time they encounter the tenno.

People forget that the operators exist outside time and space. You cannot defeat them, because another version pops up and makes the right decision to win. For operators, all things that can happen, will happen- Except true defeat. Which is why as soon as you unlock operator mode, you find that you can't lose a mission unless your warframe is destroyed. Tenno can't be killed as long as they have their connection to the void.

We're talking about extradimensional gods when we're talking about tenno. They aren't just kids controlling robots. They're thousand year old warriors who aren't anchored to their own bodies, who can't be affected by mind altering powers, and who can mind control/make others go insane with a whim. Warframe hasn't shown much of what happens when an operator has a bad day, but they did mention that YOU killed all the void maddened crew. As a 14 year old. You didn't do it with a warframe, because you didn't have one, and I doubt you can kill void corrupted people with a flashlight.

So we're basically talking about chaos demons who can't be defeated because causality won't allow it. This is a level of power/plot armor even 40k can't match. We just don't have nearly as much lore, so people often fail to realise that warframes are often capable of planet cracking feats WITHOUT any outside help, and they can certainly destroy entire systems if they had the appropriate power booster.

Space marines lose BADLY in 1v1, and in a full war- even if they outnumbered the warframes 50 to 1. The marines couldn't even defeat an eidolon, let alone Revenant, which is completely indestructible as long as the user isn't brain dead. Warframes are not only this powerful, they're also expendable. Space marines and their enhanced organs aren't. The minute a warframe casts a nuke from it's eyeballs, every marine and their six million dollar man getup within a 500m radius gets flash fried by nuclear fire. You destroy a warframe? The next one comes off the assembly line and takes a trip through the void to commit even more war crimes. Because warframes are cloned. An expendable, vat grown, nuclear powered army that exists out of time and space is so far beyond WH40k that I'm honestly suprised any WH40k fans even want to make this comparison.

I like 40k, but no single space marine has been able to teleport the moon, and even the most powerful psykers would have a hard time replicating that feat. Lotus did it with a thought.

[Incunabulum]

Publicado originalmente por Midas:

Publicado originalmente por Incunabulum:

Marines don't do the things you are saying they do.

Marines don't do their own research and the AdMech doesn't do a lot of original research either.

Omophagea
Phase 8: This implant, also called "the Remembrancer", allows a Space Marine to 'learn by eating'. It is situated in the spinal cord but is actually part of the brain. Four nerve bundles are implanted connecting the spine and the stomach wall. Able to 'read' or absorb genetic material consumed by the marine, the omophagea transmits the gained information to the Marine's brain as a set of memories or experiences. It is the presence of this organ which has led to the various flesh-eating and blood-drinking rituals for which the Astartes are famous, as well as giving names to chapters such as the Blood Drinkers and Flesh Tearers. Over time, mutations in this implant have given some chapters unnatural cravings for blood or flesh.

Space marines are weird. Still wouldn't be enough to defeat a warframe, though.

That organ allows a Marine to learn some of the memories of the victim - temporarily - but it it isn't 'research' or allow them to understand stuff even the victim themselves don't know.

[Def]

I think space marines would win because Warframes have trouble penetrating basic Grineer infantry armor in the Steel Path.

[Midas]

Publicado originalmente por Incunabulum:

Publicado originalmente por Midas:

Omophagea
Phase 8: This implant, also called "the Remembrancer", allows a Space Marine to 'learn by eating'. It is situated in the spinal cord but is actually part of the brain. Four nerve bundles are implanted connecting the spine and the stomach wall. Able to 'read' or absorb genetic material consumed by the marine, the omophagea transmits the gained information to the Marine's brain as a set of memories or experiences. It is the presence of this organ which has led to the various flesh-eating and blood-drinking rituals for which the Astartes are famous, as well as giving names to chapters such as the Blood Drinkers and Flesh Tearers. Over time, mutations in this implant have given some chapters unnatural cravings for blood or flesh.

Space marines are weird. Still wouldn't be enough to defeat a warframe, though.

That organ allows a Marine to learn some of the memories of the victim - temporarily - but it it isn't 'research' or allow them to understand stuff even the victim themselves don't know.

Maybe, but that's what it sounded like they were referring to. It's definitely a characteristic of space marines to be able to use that organ to learn about their enemies.

[Guts]

Publicado originalmente por Def:

I think space marines would win because Warframes have trouble penetrating basic Grineer infantry armor in the Steel Path.

Steel path isn't meant to be the full measure of warframe. It's hard core mode for when you've technically beaten the game. A warframe that fought Ballas on the sun is going to be nearly all powerful compared to a juiced up human.

[Guts]

Publicado originalmente por Midas:

Publicado originalmente por Incunabulum:

That organ allows a Marine to learn some of the memories of the victim - temporarily - but it it isn't 'research' or allow them to understand stuff even the victim themselves don't know.

Maybe, but that's what it sounded like they were referring to. It's definitely a characteristic of space marines to be able to use that organ to learn about their enemies.

It wouldn't work on a warframe. The marine would become infected.

[Paroe]

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Space marine ceramite armor is basically strong against kinetic but not energy weapons. An atomos would rip through a chapter of space marines in minutes.

Meanwhile a warframes armor can canonically survive being within close proximity to a yellow (sol) star, and the flesh inside burns before the armor melts. We can also use limbo to pull them into the warp so.... One limbo could open them up to being **extremely** dead.