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Def 25 MAR 2024 a las 8:11 p. m.
Warframe vs. a WH40k Space Marine
Who would win?
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Kawalorn 26 MAR 2024 a las 2:08 a. m. 
1v1 or in relatively small skirmish? Warframes win easy. As an all out war? Imperium just nukes the solar system, cause it would be too much of a bother otherwise.
NocheLuz 26 MAR 2024 a las 3:38 a. m. 
This is just my opinion. But I think if Warframe subtracts any Active or Passive ability fighting Space Marine at full force. I think one-on-one might be a draw. Space Marine might learn and adapt but also The operator of the Warframe.

The only thing about Warframe that might be a problem is that Warframe technology is far too advanced compared to Space Marine. So it might be slow to advance unless using enemy weapons against them. Which Warframe is not afraid to do. We even have infested flesh on the weapons we use (especially, Hema).

Unless Space Marine has to do the same, I think the battle between Space Marine and Warframe might not even called battle at all.

As a side note, they can nuke the planet all they want. But the main base of operation of The Tenno, Grinner, and Corpus are not even on the planet. They might learn about the reservoir on the Moon but that too also transfers to the Orbiter already. In fact, by nuking the whole system they basically make the factions unite together to fight the Space Marines just like in The New War.
Midas 26 MAR 2024 a las 4:00 a. m. 
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A warframe is basically a Officio Asssinorum operative combined with a psyker combined with a lesser demon, armed with all the best combined tech of Necrons and Eldar.

Grineer are actually way stronger and more dangerous than most people realize, far more so than any ordinary human, but they are pushovers compared to a tenno. A grineer would be like a space marine in terms of durability and strength, but would have none of the tactical acumen or skill.

A warframe wouldn't just destroy a space marine, one could fight whole squads of space marines easily.

Yes, true that. Perhaps the question gets shifted to:

Space marine or Grineer - Who would win?

Warframes seem like next level, Marvel Ironmen/women, Grineer army destroyers.
Warframes are just next level. cool.

Add operator immortality and.....it's simply too much power vs 'WH40K'

Space marines would win. Grinneer are strong and heavily armored, but they don't have much imagination or individuality, and often don't live long enough to become very seasoned veterans. Maybe a distinguished grineer like Kahl might be somewhat comparable to a basic space marine, but even then, I'd be leaning on the space marine winning that fight.

If it was something like... a single marine chapter without planet-nuking ships vs all the grineer, maybe the grineer could win on sheer numbers and how quickly they can be replenished. While a marine has to be hand-picked, then requires years of training and augmentation, grinner are practically mass-produced.
Última edición por Midas; 26 MAR 2024 a las 4:04 a. m.
Rayu 26 MAR 2024 a las 6:24 a. m. 
most if not all warframes are able to kill a regular single space marine in 1vs1. but a regular space marine is basically a random soldier. it gets harder to say who wins when you take a look at named space marines that play a role in the lore, like mephiston, belial, logan grimnar or kaldor draigo.
for example, mephiston is just on a different level than a regular space marine and he is on a different level than other psyker space marines.
mephiston can stop time, even in 40k there are not many that can do something against that. that combined with his insane fighting skills and the power boost he gets from the black rage, a 1vs1 against waframes he likely wins it all. even protea does not have the control over time to kill him.
but there are many variables to determine which side wins in a large scale war.
parts of the the imperium have fought side by side with both eldar and necrons, so that is a thing that can happen and that adds a ton of insane reality bending and star system ending superweapons to the mix. how much of a fighting force would be left in warframe when the sun instantly goes supernova?
in recent lore even the imperium dusted off some of their old superweapons that cause destruction on a massive scale, even by 40k standards.
chaos could jump in and turn it into a 3 way war, which would be an ever bigger mess with much more destruction, and i think chaos could take on waframe by itself.
Guts 26 MAR 2024 a las 7:13 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Rayujin:
most if not all warframes are able to kill a regular single space marine in 1vs1. but a regular space marine is basically a random soldier. it gets harder to say who wins when you take a look at named space marines that play a role in the lore, like mephiston, belial, logan grimnar or kaldor draigo.
for example, mephiston is just on a different level than a regular space marine and he is on a different level than other psyker space marines.
mephiston can stop time, even in 40k there are not many that can do something against that. that combined with his insane fighting skills and the power boost he gets from the black rage, a 1vs1 against waframes he likely wins it all. even protea does not have the control over time to kill him.
but there are many variables to determine which side wins in a large scale war.
parts of the the imperium have fought side by side with both eldar and necrons, so that is a thing that can happen and that adds a ton of insane reality bending and star system ending superweapons to the mix. how much of a fighting force would be left in warframe when the sun instantly goes supernova?
in recent lore even the imperium dusted off some of their old superweapons that cause destruction on a massive scale, even by 40k standards.
chaos could jump in and turn it into a 3 way war, which would be an ever bigger mess with much more destruction, and i think chaos could take on waframe by itself.

You're delusional. Every warframe is battleship class dangerous, and is controlled by a person who can't be harmed because time won't allow it. Even lower level warframes like mirage casually spit nuclear devices and dance in the radioactive glow. And EACH operator is immortal on a level even the god king can't imagine. If you annoy an operator enough, they can possess you.

Maybe you haven't done the New War yet, but the final fight is basically your operaator vs The Imperial god king, and it takes place on the sun. I don't know of any space marines that can survive fighting on the sun.
Rayu 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:20 a. m. 
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You're delusional. Every warframe is battleship class dangerous, and is controlled by a person who can't be harmed because time won't allow it. Even lower level warframes like mirage casually spit nuclear devices and dance in the radioactive glow. And EACH operator is immortal on a level even the god king can't imagine. If you annoy an operator enough, they can possess you.

Maybe you haven't done the New War yet, but the final fight is basically your operaator vs The Imperial god king, and it takes place on the sun. I don't know of any space marines that can survive fighting on the sun.

right, and how is mirage gonna do her thing when mephiston stopped time before he cut her in pieces?
and the god *emperor* can't imagine the level of immortality of an operator? he has knows what the chaos gods are, beings that are not alive in the way we understand the meaning of the word, they are sentient concentrated masses of energy and emotion, cant kill energy or emotion... i think he can imagine it just fine. also, what do you even mean by he cant imagine their immortality? immortal is immortal, not very difficult to understand.
oh no, an operator possessed a space marine... oh look, a boltor round to the space marine's face fixed it. what they did it again? alright, here have a grey knight.
fighting on the sun... space marines dont need to do that, the necrons just turn it into an instant supernova, no need to worry about fighting on the sun. =)
as for space marines being capable of surviving a fight on the sun, pretty sure kaldor draigo could do it, he is a walking lore problem with the amount of ''impossible'' things he has done.
and time wont allow the operators to be harmed? that aint exactly true, now is it? time is actually one of the few ways the operator can die, old age. the only reason we are still kids is because we were in stasis.
and the 2nd way to kill operators, mental destruction, the void needs a functioning mind to do its thing. guess what 40k has plenty of? ways to destroy minds. base level space marine psykers can do that.

also, no need to be rude. i dont mind discussing this, but if you're gonna be rude i will just block and report, i dont need randos on the internet having attitude with me.
C.D.J. Grazza 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:33 a. m. 
The operator is on a level beyond space-time. Sentient energy, void energy....god realm...means what is space time to the operator?

Stop time, just a quantum anomaly that would only stop time for space marines and probably do nothing to operator or warframes, because they're shielded from that time effect, in the same way that they're shielded from the 'general relativistic' space-time distortions of a sun or a rift of any kind. IDK.

Could be that one burst of void blast energy from the operator would just stop any time-stops. Age is not proven to affect the operator in this universe, anymore, after the new war sun battle.

Good thoughts though.:steamthumbsup:
Última edición por C.D.J. Grazza; 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:51 a. m.
Illusive Soul 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:38 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

You're missing the point, the Warframes are made of infested flesh, so for any amount of their tech to be incorporated into Space Marine stuff, whoever was doing so would be executed as a Heretic, because that weird metal flesh amalgamation is extremely some Chaos stuff. anyone in the Imperium goes trying to make use of that and an Inquisitor is going to put an end to them.

I thought Space marine are one of those "Do anything for Win" ?
Fake 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:50 a. m. 
If we are talking about lore, Warframes have a MAJOR weakness.

Deimos.

Namely the Heart of Deimos. And an infested moon would be a prime target for Exterminatus.
Stolas Goetia 26 MAR 2024 a las 8:53 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Fake:
If we are talking about lore, Warframes have a MAJOR weakness.

Deimos.

Namely the Heart of Deimos. And an infested moon would be a prime target for Exterminatus.
how is the heart related to warframes at all...?
SmallGespenst 26 MAR 2024 a las 9:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Illusive Soul:
Publicado originalmente por SmallGespenst:

You're missing the point, the Warframes are made of infested flesh, so for any amount of their tech to be incorporated into Space Marine stuff, whoever was doing so would be executed as a Heretic, because that weird metal flesh amalgamation is extremely some Chaos stuff. anyone in the Imperium goes trying to make use of that and an Inquisitor is going to put an end to them.

I thought Space marine are one of those "Do anything for Win" ?
They're extremely not because that's the road down which Chaos lies. They're fine doing what we would consider to be warcrimes, but this is a setting with a myriad of corrupting forces, being willing to compromise yourself to win is an easy way to make yourself the next enemy your buddies will have to deal with.
Fake 26 MAR 2024 a las 9:08 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Octavia Goetia:
Publicado originalmente por Fake:
If we are talking about lore, Warframes have a MAJOR weakness.

Deimos.

Namely the Heart of Deimos. And an infested moon would be a prime target for Exterminatus.
how is the heart related to warframes at all...?
"Mother explains that the Heart is her father's family legacy that "pumps the arteries" from the Void to power Orokin devices, including Warframes." - from the wiki
NocheLuz 26 MAR 2024 a las 9:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Fake:
If we are talking about lore, Warframes have a MAJOR weakness.

Deimos.

Namely the Heart of Deimos. And an infested moon would be a prime target for Exterminatus.

AFAIK, the Heart of Deimos questline will take place after the New War. But if you think carefully, the Heart of Deimos only pumps void power into reality. It didn't even affect the void power of the operator. It *might* affect Warframe but that's it. We can still use transference and control other things easily. Also, I think we can still control Warframe although the ability might be disabled due to low void power.
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tho space marines are also op so idk it really depends on what kinda battle you mean like one on one or ?
Let's say one on one
was sleeping but maybe hmmmm i would go with a frame wining the lore suggest some very op stuff if it were one on one
Nibbie 26 MAR 2024 a las 9:49 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Rayujin:
Publicado originalmente por N473:

You're delusional. Every warframe is battleship class dangerous, and is controlled by a person who can't be harmed because time won't allow it. Even lower level warframes like mirage casually spit nuclear devices and dance in the radioactive glow. And EACH operator is immortal on a level even the god king can't imagine. If you annoy an operator enough, they can possess you.

Maybe you haven't done the New War yet, but the final fight is basically your operaator vs The Imperial god king, and it takes place on the sun. I don't know of any space marines that can survive fighting on the sun.

right, and how is mirage gonna do her thing when mephiston stopped time before he cut her in pieces?

By reviving permanently, since she is just a remote controlled suit, while from a quick bit of research, his time freeze is technically temporary. Especially in a pre-second dream state, with the operator still in the pod in the void, they could just out-lifetime him unless he was able to navigate the void itself. Even then, the only way to win is to kill the Operator itself, and the lore is a bit fuzzy on how possible that actually is.

Even if you consider just beating the Warframe itself as the condition of victory, some of the frames could almost certainly still win. Some frames have ways of becoming invincible for a while, such as Valkyr's Hysteria, which a timestop would just make infinite. Limbo in the Rift probably just ignores the stopped time since it's source isn't in the Rift, and "timestop" could be argued to be a form of CC which mechanics like Overguard would protect from.
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