Violet/crimson archon shard buff info

[Chuck]

Okay, both of these shards have a buff im interested in; +25% melee weapon crit damage (violet has more info than that but right now its whats relevant).

Now, is that +% damage on my base weapon or my weapon after mods are applied? If i have all 5 slots applied, thats +125% melee CD. Assuming base weapon, my melee weapon with base x2 CD gets an extra x2.5 CD, bringing the total to like x7.5 CD, as it has x5 CD with its current configuration, which is still nice, but if its +125% CD AFTER mods, then thats huge. That would be like x11.25 CD (unless im doing my math wrong which i could be as it is very late right now for me).

I feel like it has to be +CD to base weapon and not +CD after mods apply, the numbers would get very large very quickly if it was, because theres also arcanes and element procs and warframe buffs and enemy element weaknesses.

[Yume no Akuma]

it's base

[Chuck]

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

That sucks.

[Spartykins]

all I know is that I can make valkitty do like 20 million damage sometimes and that's funny

[neock]

my garuda prime is using violate shards for melee CD, and has a 10.5 CD with a 60% crit chance. gets crazy fast

[Chuck]

if i do nothing but regular violet shards i can get my balla (with its current build) to have a 10x CD and 119% CC (I have a good riven), with kullervo at my power strength i get +500% CC.

I use arcane fury (not fully leveled), and on my knife i have melee exposure for +240% corrosion damage.

Before i had the violet shards, i had my kullervo build with +410% CC on his buff, but otherwise everything else was the same. I could occasionally see 10M damage against steel path murmur enemies. Thats still great because its still a 1 shot kill to them and i can chain them together, but then i changed my build to the current one with +500% CC and added the 1 violet shard.

Since then, ive been able to get to 40M damage. That seems larger than expected. There has to be math im not understanding.

[Yume no Akuma]

well maybe because you have a max energy above 500 ? cause that doubles the boost of violet shards melee cd
also account for weakpoints you may hit ... i have seen everything from 10 - 80 mil on my kullervo

oh yea also kullervos crit is flat chance so with 500 compared to 410 you are 90% sure to hit a higher crit tier

[Chuck]

Originally posted by Yume no Akuma:

oh yea also kullervos crit is flat chance so with 500 compared to 410 you are 90% sure to hit a higher crit tier

yeah but at 5x crit damage on my weapon i shouldnt see such a large jump in damage. And my max energy is above 500 so i know i get the buff, i was expecting the difference in damage but not that drastic of one. My max damage potential going up x4 from just one shard and a bit more strength is crazy.