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Valohmheimr Jul 21, 2020 @ 8:39am
So about the data privacy thing...
We all know that Leyou will be owned by Tencent, and I heard this will change nothing for Warframe itself. But I also heard that given Tencent's close ties with the government, the privacy of your data is another thing.

Should I be worried? I only know Tencent as a company name and I dont know their history in the gaming industry and I believe I've never played any of their games.
Originally posted by KIREEK:
You should be worried if you meet 2 criteria:
- continuous exposure of china goverment activities, pro democratic propaganda, anti regime acts
- plan on going to china for work or tourism

If you meet these 2, you are subject to questioning, harassment or in some cases, deport to the country of origin.

The idea of gathering data is because they are obligated to do so by china requests and they use that to track individuals and apply the social score, making sure that individuals get more or less opportunities in china.

In general this won't matter to you, unless ofcourse you're an youtuber with vast influence and decide that in one of your videos you should relate DE actions with somekind of political situation that shouldn't exist, if so they will likely target you.

China is all about that social score and preventing problematic users from entering or being in the country, while the US mainly gathers data to fight hate speech using bs algoriths and scripts, if you say something in discord, you may suffer repercussions in youtube, google, faceboot, twiter, twitch and so on

There haven't been any issues related to that in warframe since the start, the closest it has been was a translator being banned for leaking stuff, this brought tons of china users questioning DE and accusing them of being anti china, some users take any user banned as an attack to their own country, DE did the right things and continues to do the right thing by ignoring ignorant users.
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Shard of Manus Jul 21, 2020 @ 8:41am 
And what data are Tencent going to be obtaining from your Warframe profile?

Maybe your e-mail address. :cupup:
Valohmheimr Jul 21, 2020 @ 8:50am 
There's nothing to worry about then since this email is only connected to this steam account and its games and nowhere else....well maybe some porn sites
Sceles Jul 21, 2020 @ 8:57am 
I am pretty sure you have been involved with Tencent in one way or another. They own everything.
It's too late I'm afraid; they've already hacked into every lamp and mirror in your home, they have probe drones mapping your brain as we speak
Celebroeye Jul 21, 2020 @ 10:03am 


Originally posted by Valoh the Honest Tree:
Should I be worried? I only know Tencent as a company name and I dont know their history in the gaming industry and I believe I've never played any of their games.

I'm sure you have played Tencent games

Full ownership of Riot Games, the American developers of Valorant and League of Legends[153]
Full ownership of Norwegian publisher Funcom.[154][155]
Full ownership of Swedish developer Sharkmob, founded in 2017 by ex-Ubisoft developers and fully acquired by Tencent in 2019.[156]
80% ownership in the New Zealand company Grinding Gear Games, the developers of the game Path of Exile.[157][158][159]
Approximately 84% ownership in Finnish mobile game developer Supercell, makers of Clash of Clans and Clash Royale[160]
40% ownership of American developers Epic Games, the developer of popular online game Fortnite[161]
20% ownership of Japanese publisher and developer Marvelous which own G-Mode and the majority of Data East's intellectual properties including: BurgerTime, Joe & Mac, and Magical Drop franchises.[162]
18.6% ownership of Chinese company iDreamSky, which mainly develops and publishes mobile games for the Chinese market.
17.66% ownership of South Korean mobile developer Netmarble.[163]
Approximately 15% ownership of American mobile game developer Glu Mobile[164]
13.54% ownership of South Korean company Kakao, the parent company of South Korean publisher Kakao Games.[165][166]
9% ownership in UK developer Frontier Developments[167]
5% ownership of American holding company Activision Blizzard, the parent company of Activision, Blizzard and King[164]
5% ownership of Swedish publisher Paradox Interactive[164]
5% ownership in France's Ubisoft, purchased from Vivendi following Vivendi's failed attempt to buy out Ubisoft in March 2018[168][169]
1.5% ownership of South Korean company Bluehole, the publisher of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds.
Majority ownership in Switzerland-based mobile game developer Miniclip[170]
Capital Investment in Japanese developer PlatinumGames[171]
Minority share in German developer Yager Development[172]
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KIREEK Jul 21, 2020 @ 10:15am 
You should be worried if you meet 2 criteria:
- continuous exposure of china goverment activities, pro democratic propaganda, anti regime acts
- plan on going to china for work or tourism

If you meet these 2, you are subject to questioning, harassment or in some cases, deport to the country of origin.

The idea of gathering data is because they are obligated to do so by china requests and they use that to track individuals and apply the social score, making sure that individuals get more or less opportunities in china.

In general this won't matter to you, unless ofcourse you're an youtuber with vast influence and decide that in one of your videos you should relate DE actions with somekind of political situation that shouldn't exist, if so they will likely target you.

China is all about that social score and preventing problematic users from entering or being in the country, while the US mainly gathers data to fight hate speech using bs algoriths and scripts, if you say something in discord, you may suffer repercussions in youtube, google, faceboot, twiter, twitch and so on

There haven't been any issues related to that in warframe since the start, the closest it has been was a translator being banned for leaking stuff, this brought tons of china users questioning DE and accusing them of being anti china, some users take any user banned as an attack to their own country, DE did the right things and continues to do the right thing by ignoring ignorant users.
Last edited by KIREEK; Jul 21, 2020 @ 10:18am
Zesc Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:13am 
If you have ever used Discord, you should be more worried.
Else, just don't discuss the independence of Taiwan, the student protests of 1989 or Winnie the Pooh in region chat. Given my experience with WF chatting, i expect this to be quite easy for you.

In the worst case: change your email adress to something disposable now, unlink from your steam account, and, if your rig is powerfull enough, move WF into a virtual machine.*

*I have no idea if this is against DE's TOS. I guess not, but better double check if you don't want to get an automated account ban.
Sloznoprikolog Jul 21, 2020 @ 11:36am 
Are u serious? Lul, ur data is already owned by companies, which products u use, including DE. So what's the problem, don't want to share data with more companies, even though u will?
Ire Jul 22, 2020 @ 7:33pm 
Do you want to assist with your data being collected and delivered to a country that is basically nazi germany, complete with concentration camps; for "re-education" of minorities that dont fit in with the population that their government deems correct?
A country where if you are even friends with someone who is critical of the government will lose the ability to get a visa, a loan, have their house forclosed on, their car repossessed - and have invented and implemented a "good citizen" scorecard for everyone?
that monitors citizens daily activities through mass facial recognition and may adjust your score based on where you go?
That is aggressively annexing territories (HK as well as swaths of the ocean) despite international protests?

This goes beyond tencent; in general people should start not giving information and money to countries and companies that they find objectionable. I find a lot of the above objectionable, so you should ask yourself if you also do. Sure, its a bit harder to find products not made in china, and often they cost double. Sure there is a increasingly long list of games I no longer play. But, I cannot support the above just for conveinence and entertainment.
Last edited by Ire; Jul 22, 2020 @ 7:34pm
No_Quarter (Banned) Jul 23, 2020 @ 12:09am 
If you are worried about your data you can do two things:

1) ask DE to remove all data they have on you, they are obliged to do so as they are operating on EU ground.
2) use vitrualization, Warframe can run on virtual machine with little performance loss and then you only give it what you want to give it, they can't track your hardware ID as easily, it is NOT possible to access any data that is not on virtual machine and that is all. VPN if you wanna be 100% secure

You own your data in a sense that you can choose what to give out. And people seem to have their heads so far up their asses that rescue teams may take days to find them - you are carrying a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ microphone and a GPS tracker that's connected to network wherever you go! What privacy of data are you even talking about?
Originally posted by KIREEK:
while the US mainly gathers data to fight hate speech using bs algoriths and scripts, if you say something in discord, you may suffer repercussions in youtube, google, faceboot, twiter, twitch and so on.
yes, only that and nothing else, if you lobotomize a person it just MAY forget history and what US is going for there....
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