[MR33] My Warframe tier list (Update 35)

[MetalMamacomon]

https://imgur.com/a/FOBAizB

Disclaimer:
1) Primaries, Secondaries and Melees are mostly the best damage dealers in the game right now (Mesa for example is one of the reasons i said mostly), so any warframe that buffs them is clearly top tier. Meaning any warframe that has too many shenanigans to make them work are not worth the wasted time. Its better to just point and click a Phenmor, or hold the attack button using Kronen Prime.
2) Considering steel path latest content, not long runs.
3) The key idea in this tier list is: do your job, don't die and don't be a burden for your team.
3.2) Which means if you need to do 1000 things to be alive, pressing all the warframe buttons, going into operator, using Rolling Guard and wasting a time to do something Phenmor or Kronen Prime can do better, its gonna be indeed marked as bottom tier here.

Obs:
1) The only warframe I don't have is Qorvex, so idk where he should be.
2) I know people love to be trolls in the internet and disagree with anything, specially when they find troll friends in a post, but it's not gonna change my opinion nor the reality.

Edit: I made this text shorter, it was tltr, and people here are not deserving my explanations.

[Fake]

Why do you need a tier list? Just use whichever Warframe that you find fun.

[MetalMamacomon]

Originally posted by Fake:

Why do you need a tier list? Just use whichever Warframe that you find fun.

I say the same to you, don't come in tier lists posts, just use whichever Warframe you find fun, yet, you're here.

But I'll answer that. People can do whatever they feel like doing, I dont care, I'm just sharing my experience. If you have nothing to share, just don't. Even Yareli can survive the latest content, not likely, but possible.
The tier list is to help ppl choose if they are new, just came back from a long break or they just want to find a new strong one to play. Maybe even a veteran that never thought about playing nova outside farming defese missions will rethink playing her cause of my considerations. Whatever the reason, maybe they like STRONG warframes, META warframes, USEFUL warframes, they don't like dying all the time, don't like doing no damage, maybe thats what gonna make them happy. That's obvious, idk im answering this.

Plus:
Have you tried Netracells carrying all keys or any mission from the Zariman update till the latest on Steel Path?
In Netracells and Archon Hunts for example, if you die once, you are dead, Archons hit HARD, and Netracells have high level enemies plus the debuffs from the keys. In these missions, you can't revive by youself unless ure using the operator passive. And this passive if: 1) you arent using madurai, 2) there are no monsters around or 3) monsters are really tough, you are gonna need a babysitter, you are gonna be a burden for someone, and your babysitter will have to stop what he is doing to come to save you, delaying the mission. And if he dies, and the other dies, and everybody dies, the mission is over.
Or maybe they are using the characters from my tier list, so they will be carrying the "for fun" guy. Or at least the mission won't fail for them while the for fun guy died already for good.

[Fake]

How about just playing the game?

[iLovePie_42]

Making a tier list (that most people won't even care about, realistically) and telling you don't want to hear about the useless tier is another level of irrationality. @Fake is right, just play the game and have fun instead of thinking that much. Don't be toxic either.

I will play with Yareli in public matches just because a random internet guy #27816314 said its garbage

[two candy bracelets]

nah bruh why is inaros so high, this man baiting

[Daniel]

Either you are a troll, or you don't have the slightest idea about the game.

Inaros, the most useless and weakest warframe located above 80% of warframes. Literally, you are telling me that Inaros is better than Khora, Octavia, Protea, Xaku, Citrine, Mirage, Voruna, Gara, Volt... This is phatetic.

As Fake already told you, go and play the game and remember that playing a game doesn't always mean understanding it and it shows.

[Midas]

This thread is why people say mr means nothing. Was impossible to take this seriously after seeing Inaros in the a tier, but I still read through it enough to laugh about xaku somehow being in the meme tier.

[MetalMamacomon]

I wouldn't make a tier list if I had to place every warframe in their general political correctness spot to please everyone's palates. It is what it is, and tier lists are always controversial.

Originally posted by Midas:

This thread is why people say mr means nothing. Was impossible to take this seriously after seeing Inaros in the a tier, but I still read through it enough to laugh about xaku somehow being in the meme tier.

You think Xaku is better than any warframe I've placed in B and above for general SP content? THAT is impossible to take seriously.
People just need one troll in the comments to Herd effect, if you dont like the tier list, just play whatever you want, thats fine. But don't come saying crap while not understanding those characters first.

Originally posted by Daniel:

Either you are a troll, or you don't have the slightest idea about the game.

Inaros, the most useless and weakest warframe located above 80% of warframes. Literally, you are telling me that Inaros is better than Khora, Octavia, Protea, Xaku, Citrine, Mirage, Voruna, Gara, Volt... This is phatetic.

As Fake already told you, go and play the game and remember that playing a game doesn't always mean understanding it and it shows.

Other dude talking about Inaros not being more useful than those warframes. Level 240 on steel path, those will mostly need 3 babysitters to take care of them. Hell Inaros is better indeed.
Lastly you wrote about my experience cause its easier to attack the person than the fact, but seems like you are the one who knows. Wanna share your tier list instead? Maybe you watch Knightmare Frame to think that PROTEA is good and not a meme. Cause clearly you havent played them all.

[The Big Brzezinski]

If you actually know what you're doing, you can build a loadout around any frame so it works in any context. If anything, the greater challenge in using odd tools makes it more desirable.

[Illusive Soul]

"Kullervo B tier " this frame destroy SP murmur in a second and cheesed the debuff in netracell,able to clean the whole room in the second with using 3 bind and 1 dash critical hit,Kullervo Always get his Over Guard back since higher difficulty mission like SP has tons of enemy for him to regain OG.

Inaros will forever sitting Garbage tier in my heart,thats my opinion,being tank aint everything in this game,shield gate and Vazarin exist,i rather have 3 nova for CC,3 gauss CC and kill faster using their 4 than having 3 inaros that only know throwing sand and try hard dealing DPS with their "Best weapon" ,people that Focus on Meta dont need "extra health" frame in their team,they need frame that can actually helping,kill everything less than 2 second.

Inaros has high health and throw sand,thats it,if inaros can work as Ancient Healer,he might be usefull for team.

when doing normal mission that is not SP,i dont care about people using Inaros goofing around,inside SP i see inaros i see a burden that cant help much for team and pretty much this player just want to Enjoy / chill in SP with out actually think about helping their teammates.

[Wintermute]

LMAO. Trinity in a tier below Oberon.

[MetalMamacomon]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

LMAO. Trinity in a tier below Oberon.

Yes, only because Smite Infusion, otherwise Oberon would be a meme, so what?

Originally posted by Illusive Soul:

"Kullervo B tier " this frame destroy SP murmur in a second and cheesed the debuff in netracell,able to clean the whole room in the second with using 3 bind and 1 dash critical hit,Kullervo Always get his Over Guard back since higher difficulty mission like SP has tons of enemy for him to regain OG.

Inaros will forever sitting Garbage tier in my heart,thats my opinion,being tank aint everything in this game,shield gate and Vazarin exist,i rather have 3 nova for CC,3 gauss CC and kill faster using their 4 than having 3 inaros that only know throwing sand and try hard dealing DPS with their "Best weapon" ,people that Focus on Meta dont need "extra health" frame in their team,they need frame that can actually helping,kill everything less than 2 second.

Inaros has high health and throw sand,thats it,if inaros can work as Ancient Healer,he might be usefull for team.

when doing normal mission that is not SP,i dont care about people using Inaros goofing around,inside SP i see inaros i see a burden that cant help much for team and pretty much this player just want to Enjoy / chill in SP with out actually think about helping their teammates.

Just to make it clear, i'd like to say that shield gating was nerfed recently in Abyss of Dagath, so dont come bsing me about it, its still useful, but arguably not worth it in most cases we used before.

People might play Inaros to leech the party, just like they do as Limbo. Doesn't mean the character is bad. They're actually using very strong and tanky warframes for doing nothing, and that just shows how strong these warframes actually are.
As I said, the meta is using primaries, secondaries and melees, if one can survive, one can do their job, this includes not making people stop what theyre doing to revive them. The easier to be alive, the better. And if you think Rhino, Nezha are fine where they are, Inaros is just a better version of them for doing the usual latest content, meaning Netracells and the latest Steel Path missions. But for longer runs where enemy level gets too high, he will of course fall to the useless category, cause his whole skill kit suck, the only skill I use when playing as Inaros is Gloom, maybe and just maybe his ultimate, but I dont really need to waste time charging that.
This tier list is about general steel path content, and Inaros just can't be killed there. He doesn't need to cast skills to be immortal: has 10k+ hp, makes great use of arcane grace, blue shards, even yellow shards, + we can just slot Gloom for life steal and slow, and so on, making him even tankier and more comfortable. The only reason he is not useless, is because this, cause his whole kit is bad.

[Illusive Soul]

Originally posted by MetalMamacomon:

As I said, the meta is using primaries, secondaries and melees, if one can survive, one can do their job, this includes not making people stop what theyre doing to revive them. The easier to be alive, the better. And if you think Rhino, Nezha are fine where they are, Inaros is just a better version of them for doing the usual latest content, meaning Netracells and the latest Steel Path missions. But for longer runs where enemy level gets too high, he will of course fall to the useless category, cause his whole skill kit suck, the only skill I use when playing as Inaros is Gloom, maybe and just maybe his ultimate, but I dont really need to waste time charging that.

yes weapon kill faster,do you know damage buff make you kill even faster ? you not getting hurt when enemy are deleted fast, Rhino are still better than Inaros because he had damage buff when came to team play.

Inaros sucks when came to team play,but S tier for those who has cripple hand.

Originally posted by MetalMamacomon:

This tier list is about general steel path content, and Inaros just can't be killed there. He doesn't need to cast skills to be immortal: has 10k+ hp, makes great use of arcane grace, blue shards, even yellow shards, + we can just slot Gloom for life steal and slow, and so on, making him even tankier and more comfortable. The only reason he is not useless, is because this, cause his whole kit is bad.

any frame cant be kill if your hand wasn't cripple,and yes,inaros skill are sht,this is why everyone spit on him,i rather play Nova than Inaros + gloom,because Nova kill faster,and the slow range are wider.

Originally posted by MetalMamacomon:

Doesn't mean the character is bad. They're actually using very strong and tanky warframes for doing nothing, and that just shows how strong these warframes actually are.

Able to take more damage is not enough for me,i need damage too,Inaros are not strong,he is tank,an useless tank,Limbo are 10x time better than Inaros,he can deal insane damage also stopping enemy with 4,you can keep huff that copium telling everyone inaros are good,but most people gonna disagree and laugh at you.

[MetalMamacomon]

Originally posted by Illusive Soul:

Able to take more damage is not enough for me,i need damage too,Inaros are not strong,he is tank,an useless tank,Limbo are 10x time better than Inaros,he can deal insane damage also stopping enemy with 4,you can keep huff that copium telling everyone inaros are good,but most people gonna disagree and laugh at you.

About your Kullervo, he is bad, the overguard is good, but his kit does not replace spamming Phenmor, Laetum or Kronen Prime around, plus Tennokai exists, so WHY him and not Garuda, which deals +1m bleeds on heavy attacks or i didn't wanna say it, Gauss or Wisp. And if ure not using his melee skills, its better to use any warframe from B to SS. I should've put him into the Meme category. You like the warframe and that's ok, but don't bs me. The only reason Kullervo is put into the useful category is because of his overguard.

This is my answer:

Originally posted by MetalMamacomon:

People can do whatever they feel like doing, I dont care, I'm just sharing my experience. If you have nothing to share, just don't. Even Yareli can survive the latest content, not likely, but possible.
The tier list is to help ppl choose if they are new, just came back from a long break or they just want to find a new strong one to play. Maybe even a veteran that never thought about playing nova outside farming defese missions will rethink playing her cause of my considerations. Whatever the reason, maybe they like STRONG warframes, META warframes, USEFUL warframes, they don't like dying all the time, don't like doing no damage, maybe thats what gonna make them happy. That's obvious, idk im answering this.

I don't care, do whatever you want, Inaros will still be high tiered. Weapon buffs are great and that's why the SS and B tier are like that, but those weapons we use are already too strong, buffing them is good, but its not needed for usual content, im not talking about long runs, something like lvl 1000+ steel path, chill, its the usual content we do.
Doesn't matter that much if you get +50000% damage and atk speed on Phenmor, ok dude, you still have to point and shoot, and Phenmor still 1 sec deletes them.

In my tier list Its more valuable to stay alive and play the game than to make others worry about.
I'm not saying people SHOULD play as I have tiered otherwise the world will burn and they are gonna troll the game, as some dumbass stated before. No, you will still be carried by a Wisp in the end. I'm just pointing a guide that if people have the intent to play any of those SS, A and B warframes, they cant go wrong DOING ALL CONTENT TILL THE USUAL STEEL PATH LATEST CONTENT. But you trolls just don't wanna understand that, or are intellectually limited, neither is my problem.

[nejurnia]

your tier list is kinda mid imho