Is Valkyr the best melee frame?

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I don't see how it could be otherwise. Now I'm speaking both in terms of effectiveness and cool. I know the last part is pretty subjective but hear me out.

Who else gets bad ass wolverine claws that shred through enemies and ON TOP of that, her heavy attack offers an axe kick of doom that obliterates all enemies in the immediate vicinity. Anybody who is into martial arts or even just kung fu/martial arts films and anime knows that the axe kick is serious business. Look up Andy Hug legendary kickboxer for rl demonstrations.

I'm just using a regular Valkyr also without really expensive mods either and no forma. I'm tearing through steel path with hardcore rage. She is just a BEAST and I'd like to hear what ppl think is better in both terms which I outlined.

[YoloMoth]

Another alternative is Ivara with a Pennant and Mecha set from Fortuna, though it's more solo focused and a nuke.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I've no clue if she's the best at melee, but she certainly is oriented towards it. She's an excellent chassis for a well developed mod collection. Wrathful advance on her 1 combines with warcry and hysteria to spam multimillion red crits. Her tankiness makes her more than capable of powering herself from a single rage mod, freeing up her arcane slots for more offensive options.

[lowgrav]

Originally posted by MetalMamacomon:

she has that mirror which blocks damage in front of her

did they fix this as about 6 months ago i saw a bug thread of someone complaining garuda's mirror was full of holes as when they had the mirror facing a group of enimys or even 1 enimy there was a chance garuda could still get shot as apparently because the shield hovers above the ground enimys could shoot under it and hit her feet which happens quite often so volt will always have better shield as that thing slightly clips through floor for maximum blockage

so garuda shield is broken unless they fixed it to actualy block facing enimys

[MetalMamacomon]

Originally posted by lowgrav:

did they fix this as about 6 months ago i saw a bug thread of someone complaining garuda's mirror was full of holes as when they had the mirror facing a group of enimys or even 1 enimy there was a chance garuda could still get shot as apparently because the shield hovers above the ground enimys could shoot under it and hit her feet which happens quite often so volt will always have better shield as that thing slightly clips through floor for maximum blockage

so garuda shield is broken unless they fixed it to actualy block facing enimys

Idk, i've never heard of it nor had any problems with her shield blocking damage.

[Synner]

Personally run Baruuk for massive melee clears

[Midnight]

The best melee frame is Kullervo followed by Voruna imo.

Not that I'd blame anyone for forgetting these frames exist considering their acquisition methods.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Wrathful Advance is Kullervo's helminth ability, and works with exalted weapons. Just saying.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Wrathful Advance is Kullervo's helminth ability, and works with exalted weapons. Just saying.

That's not really the main reason. The ability to use it on a single enemy and nuking entire room of them due to the damage link is the point really.

Also, Valkyr claws are a terrible weapon compared to well, claws as in the melee weapon type even.

Oh, and of course both Kullervo and Voruna get passive heavy attack efficiency. On other frames you are gonna nuke your combo.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Heavy attack efficiency was greatly devalued when Tennokai procs were added. A Disciple's Merit mod basically removes it as a factor. Only takes a modicum of awareness and timing. Amalgam Organ Shatter helps. And if you're really worried about it, 80% heavy attack efficiency can be had from equipping Focus Energy and Radon mods. Add in your Primed Fever Strike, and you're blasting corrosion and radiation damage all over the place.

Her claws and Hysteria stance are very capable of filling the combo counter in a very short time. Hysteria is rife with multihit spinning combos that shred everything too close. It's only real downside I could mention is a lack of mobility, and that's more of a situational and personal preference consideration. As a sparring weapon, Valkyr's claws use the Rising Ashes heavy attack, which comes with powerful slam attack and lift proc. Activated for a single heavy strike, it can be used as an efficient burst attack and full heal.

Also, you're invulnerable while it's active. Not protected by shield gating, not covered by a layer of extra health. Blade-catch-a-lightsaber-and-pull-it-from-the-Jedi's-grip invulnerable.


Valkyr is not a complicated chassis. She does not have lots of feedback loops or mechanics to manage. She has all the subtlety of a battle ax. She is the choice for someone who focuses on the battlefield, not their UI.

If you're the sort of player who loves maintaining rotations and executing metas, you'll become very bored with her very quickly. If you're the sort who forgets you even have guns as you hurl yourself around the room tearing apart liches, acolytes, and archons up close and personal, you'll have a good time with Valkyr.

[chino]

By far : baaruk, almost invicible like valkyr, red crit everywhere and hit at range even throw wall , so what else ?

[The Big Brzezinski]

Attack speed.

[MetalMamacomon]

Originally posted by chino:

By far : baaruk, almost invicible like valkyr, red crit everywhere and hit at range even throw wall , so what else ?

Same problem as Valkyr: no bleeds, any eximus in SP can tank Baruuk for a lifetime.
And he just pushes enemies everywhere.

[an illusion of self]

Voruna, Baruuk and (maybe) Gauss would like to know your location

[MetalMamacomon]

One thing to be noted is that Exalted melees are not in a good spot right now besides Garuda's Talons, if we can consider those Exalted. Her Talons work and can be modded as a normal melee weapon, meaning we dont need energy to activate it and we can use combo stacking mods. Plus the great stats it has.

If we are talking about non talon invincible warframe that excels using melee, Gauss is just the best one to that spot and also for general melee combat.

Best warframes for melee combat:
Gauss > Wisp > Saryn (Venon Dose is crazy) > Garuda > Baruuk > Excalibur = Valkyr.

I'd put Garuda in first place, but the others are more useful, easier to play and more flexible than her, and i didnt mention some warframes such as Ash, Voruna, Kullervo, Khora, Atlas, etc...because theyre just memes. Might be fun, but not the best choices in the latest content steel path.

You can always pick Inaros, Revenant, Rhino, Nezha, Nova, Zephyr, Hildryn, Limbo and so on. Theyre great, they will work as a melee combatant, but they aren't really focusing on the melee combat. I personally use Nova very often for general content.

[sL Ug]

im pretty sure voruna is the best melee frame, she has so many niche powers and quirks, if you watch the kengineer video on her you'll see that she is built to be an op melee main