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SitSnacks 2016 年 2 月 8 日 上午 3:19
[Spoilers] Am I the only one disappointed by what the Tenno actually are?
Children? Really? That's just... Lame. The Tenno had this awesome mysterious vibe, robotic space ninjas with magial powers and high-tec gizmos but we're just "special" children all along? I'm actually just gonna ignore the lore from now on.
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Sterling 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:52 
引用自 EAiscool
They could've at least tried to keep it consistent. Remember this?

"The Sentients had won. They had turned our weapons, our technology, against us. The more advanced we became, the greater our losses. The war was over unless we found a new way. In our desperation we turned to the Void. The blinding night, the hellspace where our science and reason failed.
We took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame around them, a conduit of their affliction. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. Gun and blade. A new warrior, a new code was born. These rejects, these Tenno, became our saviors. Warrior-Gods cast in steel and fury striking our enemies in a way they could never comprehend. Excalibur was the first.

- Orokin 'Warframe' Archives"

"Built a frame around them"

Also, no unique dialogue for void missions. No tenno kiddy. You did not just deploy your archwing in the middle of this tiny enclosed space.
This is what bugs me. I don't get how it went from that to "we are children controlling mass murder weapons".
Silvus Sol 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:58 
引用自 EAiscool
They could've at least tried to keep it consistent. Remember this?

"The Sentients had won. They had turned our weapons, our technology, against us. The more advanced we became, the greater our losses. The war was over unless we found a new way. In our desperation we turned to the Void. The blinding night, the hellspace where our science and reason failed.
We took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame around them, a conduit of their affliction. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. Gun and blade. A new warrior, a new code was born. These rejects, these Tenno, became our saviors. Warrior-Gods cast in steel and fury striking our enemies in a way they could never comprehend. Excalibur was the first.

- Orokin 'Warframe' Archives"

"Built a frame around them"

Also, no unique dialogue for void missions. No tenno kiddy. You did not just deploy your archwing in the middle of this tiny enclosed space.

They did build the Warframes around them when they got involved in the Old War. After the old war, they separated them from the Warframes because they didn't trust them and wanted them vaulnerable. Then Margulis stuck them in pods to prevent the Orokin from eventually killing them. The Lotus then used some method (likely Sentient tech) to allow the Tenno to project their conciousness and regain control of their Warframes so they could murder the Orokin. Afterward Lotus became Space-Mom and put the Tenno back to sleep.

Later she reawoke their minds when the Grineer and Corpus started actively hunting the Warframes and directly threatened the safety of the Tenno. I'm guessing that after all the time that had passed the ability to project their conciousness into Warframes just sort of stuck and they can do it at will now.
最后由 Silvus Sol 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 3:03
KitKat 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:59 
引用自 ID Zahkriin
-didnt read the other comments... too tired-
play the game "Dark Sector" and everything comes clear
Dark Sector is not considered canon. Warframe and Dark Sector = 2 different games that only share some ideas and visuals between each other.
最后由 KitKat 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:59
Bigwhitehound 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:21 
The worst part of it is we, the Teno, don't wear the warframe. Yes I HATE the fact we "look" like kids. But that we are piloting the Warframes by remote, in a Matrix like fashion THAT'S what pisses me off.

DE should have made more than one back story for the Teno. Making just one that they KNEW would make players say ♥♥♥♥ YOU DE. Is flat out wrong.
最后由 Bigwhitehound 编辑于; 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:24
Sterling 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:22 
引用自 bigwhitehound
The worst part of it is we, the Teno, don't wear the warframe. Yes I HATE the fact we "look" like kids. But that we are piloting the Warframes by remote, in a Matrix like fashion THAT'S what pisses me off.
And yet those daft bastards dare say that the Corpus has plenty of machinery because they don't fight for themselves.
Bigwhitehound 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:25 
引用自 Mercury Black
引用自 bigwhitehound
The worst part of it is we, the Teno, don't wear the warframe. Yes I HATE the fact we "look" like kids. But that we are piloting the Warframes by remote, in a Matrix like fashion THAT'S what pisses me off.
And yet those daft bastards dare say that the Corpus has plenty of machinery because they don't fight for themselves.


Some of the Corpus do fight. The soldiers we kill are people.
Sterling 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 5:27 
引用自 bigwhitehound
引用自 Mercury Black
And yet those daft bastards dare say that the Corpus has plenty of machinery because they don't fight for themselves.


Some of the Corpus do fight. The soldiers we kill are people.
Exactly. I don't get why that line exists.
Jmee 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 6:40 
引用自 bigwhitehound
The worst part of it is we, the Teno, don't wear the warframe. Yes I HATE the fact we "look" like kids. But that we are piloting the Warframes by remote, in a Matrix like fashion THAT'S what pisses me off.

DE should have made more than one back story for the Teno. Making just one that they KNEW would make players say ♥♥♥♥ YOU DE. Is flat out wrong.
You shouldn't speak for everyone. That may be true for you, but I personally loved the Second Dream quest and resulting lore.

The only part I didn't like was the limited character customization, and being forced to look like an ugly preteen. Everything else was great. I wouldn't even have minded the age so much if it was more like... you could make them look like a non-malformed 16-17 year old, or something that an adult player might feel less detached from.

I do think it was a mistake to represent them as still so young. Children are generally thought of as clumsy and undisciplined... the exact opposite of what a capable ninja/warrior should be. So it doesn't make sense to people, and I can see why the concept gets rejected so quickly. They really should've been aged a little more.

But when your body slides out of that pod the first time and your warframe slumps to the ground like unmoving machinery... that was mindblowing, immersive, and potentially breaks the 4th wall a little in that... it really attaches you (the player) to the fact that when you choose which warframe to equip, you are putting yourself in there. Sure, we know it's just a video game we're having fun with, but it draws parallels between the player and the Operator, both remotely controlling something. I didn't dislike the "Matrix-esque" theme at all.
引用自 Mercury Black
引用自 bigwhitehound


Some of the Corpus do fight. The soldiers we kill are people.
Exactly. I don't get why that line exists.
What if they are all cyborgs! *insert dramatic music here*
SomeGuy 2016 年 2 月 8 日 下午 10:55 
As I want to avoid a ♥♥♥♥-storm I'll just keep this message short and simple...

I agree with you on the fact that the Warframe is not worn by the user but controlled by an operator is just a bit dissapointing, they might as well be brain controlled robots but oh well, it is what it is.
rokus 2016 年 2 月 9 日 上午 12:06 
Spolier tag is still legit.... I just finished up the story this past weekend, and I have some friends I am working on convincing to get started playing. I stopped playing for like, 2 years. It happens.
Bigwhitehound 2016 年 2 月 9 日 上午 6:37 
引用自 Shadow Ivara
引用自 Mercury Black
Exactly. I don't get why that line exists.
What if they are all cyborgs! *insert dramatic music here*


Even if, they are cyborgs, there are still human. Human brain in machine body=still human. Example robo-cop, first movies, NOT CRAP REMAKE.
引用自 bigwhitehound
引用自 Shadow Ivara
What if they are all cyborgs! *insert dramatic music here*


Even if, they are cyborgs, there are still human. Human brain in machine body=still human. Example robo-cop, first movies, NOT CRAP REMAKE.
might be that they are so mechamized that they can't be considered human anymore. it might also mean that they have no controll of their actions.
Zyrconia 2016 年 2 月 9 日 上午 7:35 
The Tenno are probably mostly or fully organic. That's why they need stasis.

The Warframe is a robotic mechanical or mechanical mix with organic exoskeleton around a living breathing proxy organic humanoid body. That's why they need life support and stasis.

The Tenno consciousness is projected upon this proxy body and the feeling and sensation of control is probably indistinguishable from actually inhabiting an exoskeleton using your real body.

The proxy body is probably manufactured, proably using the same cloning technology as the Grineer, only in more pure and efficient manner since the original Tenno had access to far better technology from the Orokin, plus they don't have the problem of doing copies of copies for centuries. The proxy body is either lacking consciousness and will or is a slave, trapped inside the exoskeleton.
Konachibi 2016 年 2 月 9 日 上午 11:06 
Something that's always bugged me was actually during the Second Dream quest.

Personally I found the big Tenno reveal quite awesome, I actually forgot to breathe for a while when my Warframe collapsed in a glitched-out crumpled pile as the Tenno fell out of her pod, it wasn't an answer I was expecting and that seriously blew me away.

I can understand how it could be that the Tenno was still controlling the Warframe after they'd fallen out of the pod (though I figured the pod was what gave them their frame-controlling ability), allowing them to get back to the liset.

What I can't understand is the final fight with Shadow Stalker. After putting War through the warframe it clearly stops working, the Tenno has no control over it, and then Stalker grabs the Tenno by the neck and starts choking the life out of them. It's at this point that this happens:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=620229198

Now what gets me is that I can't see how a Tenno could still be controlling that warframe at that moment. The frame completely stopped functioning/living/working, and the Tenno is struggling for their life, so I don't get how the frame suddenly comes back to life, snaps War in half and fights off Stalker to save the Tenno unless either something else took control of the frame (possibly Lotus since she was nearby), or the frame itself has a mind of it's own. The way the Tenno acts towards the warframe leads me to think that a warframe isn't just a tool for the Tenno to use, but is actually a living, breathing, thinking... 'thing' that allows itself to be controlled by the Tenno for... err... reasons?

Ever since playing that quest I've found myself having one question answered, "What's controlling the frames", only to gain a new question, "What IS a warframe?"
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