100 day log in reward.

[Emperor's Champion]

Which one is the best per the current meta?

Azima
Zenistar
Zenith

There were no recent posts about this so I was curious if the "best" has changed.

[Astori Heichalot]

I chose zenistar,
because zenith is replaceable with other rifles,
and pistols usually people now go for aksomati, athodai, nukor and the most favourite of all time twin-grakkatas (i dont like twin grakkatas tho)
but zenistar is also replaceable with wolf sledge...

oh well...

[Mhblis]

Zenistars unique mechanic is a mess right now.

Zenith is a good rifle with an ok gimmick. If you like single shot rifles its great.

The pistol is honestly so so.

[Lachanche]

zenistar with chroma deluxe skin becomes a giant anime sword i'd say pick the zenistar

[Astori Heichalot]

Originally posted by Mhblis:

Zenistars unique mechanic is a mess right now.

I still like zenith,
but I am now treating like a normal heavy blade with occasional disc throwing... which is a sad waste of a unique



not sure why it got "nerfed" in the first place tho, it wasnt an ultra mega kill weapon to begin with... unlike bramma

[Mio Rin]

I grabbed the Azeyma for the 100, then got the Zenith on 200.
Azeyma's gimmick is good for utility, if you mod it for radiation proc, but falls short of other sidearms for high damage potential.
Zenith has the "wall-hack" function which can be great in some areas, but the infinite punch-through stops where the tile you're on ends, so you might get caught out by it sometimes.

I'd say they're more for Fun than META setups, so pick whichever seems more fun to you. ;)

[=M$= Oroberus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dki7HpltqAc

[Sceles]

Originally posted by =M$= Oroberus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dki7HpltqAc

The entire melee system has been reworked since that video was made and Zenistar's functionality changed. Never trust any Warframe videos that are more than a few months old.

[nevinquest]

i have them all, my recommendation for the first login would be the zenith, its an assault rifle and DMR rifle all in one. both modes are useful.

the zenithstar disc isnt as good as it once was(which is why it was popular), and after that its just a heavy blade

the azima is a so/so auto pistol with a worthless secondary mode

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by nevinquest:

i have them all, my recommendation for the first login would be the zenith, its an assault rifle and DMR rifle all in one. both modes are useful.

the zenithstar disc isnt as good as it once was(which is why it was popular), and after that its just a heavy blade

the azima is a so/so auto pistol with a worthless secondary mode

Zenith is only as useful as assault rifles are in current meta, which is like B tier weapon at best and that is with a good riven. So a C tier.
Has very annoying screen shake on full auto even with screen shake off in settings, that is recoil shake and DE needs to do something about it as that is not how recoil is done in 21-st century.

Zenistar is clunky and DE made it really hard to build for disc and a stick to use both, stick is average, disc is gimmick and not backed up by stick that can scale as you cannot use Blood Rush, Condition Overload nor Weepeing Wounds. So you don't scale, period. Disc does not accept those mods and building just for stick is meh as almost every other heavy blade is flat out better.

Azima's saving grace is very high riven disposition. You can get a very good build for it with a great riven as primary fire is all round very good, reliable, large mag, fast reload, good rof, nothing really bad about it.

Login weapons are not great and I see very few people use them apart from Sigma & Octantis which is a pretty good weapon in it's tier. Think DE could kinda tune them up a bit and just make them fun. All ballistic weapons should have punchtrough, at least some of it in this dumb explosive meta.
And for some reason punchtrough mods are so expensive in terms of capacity, DE thinks that stat is op and not 10m explosion of 3 bazilion damage...

[=M$= Oroberus]

Originally posted by Sceles:

Originally posted by =M$= Oroberus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dki7HpltqAc

The entire melee system has been reworked since that video was made and Zenistar's functionality changed. Never trust any Warframe videos that are more than a few months old.

The newer ones (2 month) prettyx much rate it the same and the main changes on the melee system did mostly change the crit/hybrid/status meta but not the weapons themself (as far as I've read up on it).

I just chose Ashisogi Tenno as it was the last of 4 videos I checked up upon it after me return to the game.

[Sceles]

Originally posted by =M$= Oroberus:

Originally posted by Sceles:

The entire melee system has been reworked since that video was made and Zenistar's functionality changed. Never trust any Warframe videos that are more than a few months old.

The newer ones (2 month) prettyx much rate it the same and the main changes on the melee system did mostly change the crit/hybrid/status meta but not the weapons themself (as far as I've read up on it).

I just chose Ashisogi Tenno as it was the last of 4 videos I checked up upon it after me return to the game.

Yes, they did change the weapons themselves. They overhauled the entire melee system, changed lots of mods, and the stats of every single melee weapon in the game. For Zenistar they actually went even further. It used to have 45s fixed disc time, now it depends on the multiplier and starts at 10s at 0 multiplier. You actually have to melee with it now.

[ScornHub]

A.Z.I.M.A

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by RJDOM:

Zenistar with all the status mods and CO...its a beast

you probably did not try any other heavy blades in the game then

[🔥Astral Rage🔥]

I choose Zenith
Why?
Cuz I already have my favourite melee which is a S tier Dual swords ( sorry I forgot the name haven't played for months)

I didn't choose secondary cuz I hardly use secondary and the only secondary I like is kuva nukor

So that left me with one choice primary weapon zenith

The melee is cool looking but gameplay is boring with it