Do people like the story stuff?

[DiabloMuerto]

about half way through The New War and I just want it to be over. I don't much care for the story or characters in this game and being locked into this story content for hours is not fun. If it wasn't mandatory to progress to further items and things I want I wouldn't even bother with it. They could at least structure it so you're not locked into. I have a couple of hours to play after work so this is like 3 or 4 days of gaming for me and I can't do anything else.

[PhellAsleep]

Yes, some of us like the story stuff.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I like it. It's lore light and character heavy. You follow the characters and their emotions. You don't have to sit through an infodump wishing spoken words could have wiki hyperlinks.

[Synopse]

New War is not the story quest we usually have. The story quests are pretty much optional and "play at your own pace", but New War is like "in your face". No matter if you you love it or hate it: You have to finish it to be allowed to play the game normally again. They learned from it and did it diffently on Duviri.

[Verios44]

Yea its annoying you cant stop and come back later to new war, but its one of my favorite quests.

[Reclaim Her]

I just speedrun skip dialogue through all quests, usually always pretty short even new war was.

[NikemanBOOM]

It's aight.

[Qlone]

I cannot speak for all, but i like it.

[Pijon (was/were)]

I mean, the game before had that niche sense of mystery surrounding the Tenno and our duty as balance keepers in the galaxy.
Once they started trying to explain all this stuff, everything became not only complicated but also really boring.
Honestly I feel like the game lost its essence and due to the developers trying to add different story ideas and mechanics from other games, Warframe has become an amalgam of everything stitched together.

[zghaun]

nope, not at all

I didn't like the Operator not being you but just a character in the game that we happen to control and also a brat

I didn't like the cringe/edgy/2010 drama novel book story of some warframe

I didn't like the weird out of character decisions the Lotus took in her arc

I especially didn't like the ending of New War, it completely ruined the whole point of the quest in the ending

Though it was said that we are NOT THE ONLY TENNO and quest missions seem to imply that it's about the story of the Tenno as a race then why is the story revolve only around 1 Tenno specifically

[MekaDovah]

I generally like the story, but New War was actually one of their weaker entries for me, feeling like an overhyped rush job of too many ideas with not enough time for any of them to cook.

The latest entry is more of a return to form IMO.

Nothing specifically in New War was bad, just the execution left a lot to be desired. If just doing a trope or a whole general feel was in itself bad, nobody could write anything. In reality, things like poor pacing and lack of proper exposition are what cause problems. As an example, while I find it very tiresome to keep playing "somebody else" all the time, the latest story bits have proven interesting enough that I'm willing to tolerate it at least to see what happens.

[DiabloMuerto]

Aside from being bored with the story quest I was on I was also thinking about it because I know DE is developing another game, an MMO I believe it is. If the story telling and quest structure of that game is anything like in Warframe I don't have high hopes for its longevity.

[C.C. 折オリ枝 の 夫]

Originally posted by zghaun:

nope, not at all

I didn't like the Operator not being you but just a character in the game that we happen to control and also a brat

I didn't like the cringe/edgy/2010 drama novel book story of some warframe

I didn't like the weird out of character decisions the Lotus took in her arc

I especially didn't like the ending of New War, it completely ruined the whole point of the quest in the ending

Though it was said that we are NOT THE ONLY TENNO and quest missions seem to imply that it's about the story of the Tenno as a race then why is the story revolve only around 1 Tenno specifically

Because that specific Tenno, the "Chosen Operator" is the one that jumpstarted it all when she/he made the deal with the Man In The Wall on board of the Zariman.

Eternalism, the core concept in WF, states that all possibilities exist at the same time, but we can only perceive the one that is currently observed, and well, in our case, the one we can observe is the one where our Tenno accepted the handshake from the Man In The Wall, which is even signified by all other versions of our Tenno "dying" right as we took the handshake.

Another proof that our Tenno is the one that's "observed" are the stuff we got in the Wispers In The Walls with those files from Entrati himself, which showed that someone, or something, was specifically observing our Tenno and waiting for the right moment before they (because there's more than one, in the file they referred to themselves as "us" and "our") started the Kalymos Sequence.

There is a reason why the Lotus acted out of character, there is a reason why the story tried to make us her enemy, a lot of things are interconnected and only start making sense later in the story, so a bunch of things that appear as "plot holes", might not actually be plot holes at all, it's just that the specific lore behind said thing hasn't been discovered by the player, or added to the game by devs yet.

[MekaDovah]

Originally posted by DiabloMuerto:

Aside from being bored with the story quest I was on I was also thinking about it because I know DE is developing another game, an MMO I believe it is. If the story telling and quest structure of that game is anything like in Warframe I don't have high hopes for its longevity.

Warframe doesn't really survive off of its storytelling so don't know what you're referring to.

If you're bored, that's fine. Play something else. It's the natural end point of any live service game anyway. Just remember whether or not you enjoy something is a completely separate matter from whether or not it's genuinely good or bad or if other people can enjoy it or not.

[zghaun]

Originally posted by C.C. しえんのとがひめ:

Originally posted by zghaun:

nope, not at all

I didn't like the Operator not being you but just a character in the game that we happen to control and also a brat

I didn't like the cringe/edgy/2010 drama novel book story of some warframe

I didn't like the weird out of character decisions the Lotus took in her arc

I especially didn't like the ending of New War, it completely ruined the whole point of the quest in the ending

Though it was said that we are NOT THE ONLY TENNO and quest missions seem to imply that it's about the story of the Tenno as a race then why is the story revolve only around 1 Tenno specifically

Because that specific Tenno, the "Chosen Operator" is the one that jumpstarted it all when she/he made the deal with the Man In The Wall on board of the Zariman.

Eternalism, the core concept in WF, states that all possibilities exist at the same time, but we can only perceive the one that is currently observed, and well, in our case, the one we can observe is the one where our Tenno accepted the handshake from the Man In The Wall, which is even signified by all other versions of our Tenno "dying" right as we took the handshake.

Another proof that our Tenno is the one that's "observed" are the stuff we got in the Wispers In The Walls with those files from Entrati himself, which showed that someone, or something, was specifically observing our Tenno and waiting for the right moment before they (because there's more than one, in the file they referred to themselves as "us" and "our") started the Kalymos Sequence.

There is a reason why the Lotus acted out of character, there is a reason why the story tried to make us her enemy, a lot of things are interconnected and only start making sense later in the story, so a bunch of things that appear as "plot holes", might not actually be plot holes at all, it's just that the specific lore behind said thing hasn't been discovered by the player, or added to the game by devs yet.

"Because that specific Tenno, the "Chosen Operator" is the one that jumpstarted it all when she/he made the deal with the Man In The Wall on board of the Zariman."

Yes, that was shown in The New War and no that still does not explain why there are no other Tennos assisting in the story, I remember that the Lotus had a bunch of them near her.

"Eternalism, the core concept in WF, states that all possibilities exist at the same time, but we can only perceive the one that is currently observed, and well, in our case, the one we can observe is the one where our Tenno accepted the handshake from the Man In The Wall, which is even signified by all other versions of our Tenno "dying" right as we took the handshake."
Core concept? I'm pretty sure it's in the game's name on what is the core concept, even it is Eternalism it still does not have to do with anything. It just only explains this happen in this timeline but that does do anything at all since what matters is what is currently happening in the observed version.

"so a bunch of things that appear as "plot holes", might not actually be plot holes at all, it's just that the specific lore behind said thing hasn't been discovered by the player, or added to the game by devs yet."
So you mean to tell me that if I was a story writer, I can wait for my readers to point out the plot holes in my story and cover it up with some random Rick and Morty gag to explain it and say it was all part of the story all along?

[Cloudyeller]

Love it. People don't play games just to watch number go up.