Khora Prime K6/K7 Relics bugged?

[Deity]

I have never had so much of an issue getting the gold tier reward with a group of 4 in any other relic. Radsharing for both K6/K7 5 times in a row has had nothing but 3 bronze tier and 1 silver tier.

[Fake]

Have you tried making offerings to L00tcifer?

[Nibbie]

A radiant relic is a 10% chance of a rare. 5 runs with 4 people is 20 attempts, which a calculator says gives you an 88% chance of getting at least one rare. That means you hit the 12% of not getting any; not a high number, but still plenty significant, and not even remotely enough to claim a bug.

Even if you mean you did five runs on both, for a total of 40 attempts, that gives you almost a 99% chance, which makes you very unlikely, but still isn't likely grounds for a bug. With thousands of players daily, someone is bound to get unlucky; about 1 in 100 rad shares will experience luck as bad as yours.

[tv]

how do you really know they aren't throttling rates from time to time?
Like really? just blind faith?

[Bibo1]

5 times in a row got you 4 results?
Something's not adding up here
Any, it's called RNG for a reason. You need to do more runs or trade for it.
Edit: 5 radiant relic runs expecting a Gold is wishful thinking IMO.

[76561198049925163]

It's just that RNG is terrible. I can't remember which relic I had that frustrated me, but after trying 16 relics I only get 1 gold reward.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Nibbie:

A radiant relic is a 10% chance of a rare. 5 runs with 4 people is 20 attempts, which a calculator says gives you an 88% chance of getting at least one rare. That means you hit the 12% of not getting any; not a high number, but still plenty significant, and not even remotely enough to claim a bug.

Even if you mean you did five runs on both, for a total of 40 attempts, that gives you almost a 99% chance, which makes you very unlikely, but still isn't likely grounds for a bug. With thousands of players daily, someone is bound to get unlucky; about 1 in 100 rad shares will experience luck as bad as yours.

Or to put it another way, the chance of opening 20 radiant relics and not getting a gold is higher than the chance to open one and get a gold.

[Deity]

Originally posted by Bibo1:

5 times in a row got you 4 results?
Something's not adding up here :lunar2020thinkingtiger:
Any, it's called RNG for a reason. You need to do more runs or trade for it.
Edit: 5 radiant relic runs expecting a Gold is wishful thinking IMO.

Everyone was running the same relic radiant all times.

[Donitsi]

Even with 4 players drop chances are still the same. It's not unusual.

For a Silver item my friend and I opened about 50 relics each before we got it.

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by Donitsi:

Even with 4 players drop chances are still the same. It's not unusual.

For a Silver item my friend and I opened about 50 relics each before we got it.

4 players opening the same relic means you basically get the chance to get a specific item that you would if you had done 4x as many missions solo

so 5 missions with 4 players is a (1-0.1)^20 chance that you don't get the gold, which as stated above is about 12%.

[Frost Spectre]

Drop rates of the rare goes 2%-4%-6%-10%, based on refinement, while the 98%-90% is split accordingly into the lower tiers...

So it is possible to waste multiple Radiant relics and still get a roll below 90...

[Knavenformed]

You're at a 1.6 acquisition probability, and while it's calculating when the 8% would make up 100% in total, there's also the fact that the drop is the average amount of runs needed.

You can easily shoot the average by double to get the part.

I played for 8 years before Stalker dropped me the Despair lmao

[JHarlequin]

You're lucky, try opening a relic 50 times and getting the same common reward 50 times in a row.

The loot tables are supposedly locked and they work hard to make sure it works normally. It is supposed to be all probability based and so you can have a bad trend at times, but some people almost constantly get what they want within two opens, while other people don't even imagine ever finishing a prime item without trading to get all the parts.

The relics are likely not broken, you just finally had less than good luck. Just keep running them and you will probably get the reward soon enough.

[Weaselly]

Originally posted by tv:

how do you really know they aren't throttling rates from time to time?
Like really? just blind faith?

Occam's razor says that it is far more likely we're falling victim to basic probability than that there's a conspiracy to stop us from getting big booty Khora

[Mooman]

As a long term but transient player I'll add my anecdote to this discussion.

Ever since Gara Prime was released I noticed the number of prime frames and weapons I was getting was severely reduced. Just before that time was the buyout of Leyou by Tencent. Not to raise a conspiracy theory,,, but the timing is suspicious. There has since also been the introduction of (Regal) Aya and Prime Resurgence taking over the Prime Vault.

Before then I had almost every Prime and basic frame, often using intact relics and playing solo (I have the time). It was never an issue as eventually I'd get all the parts. Since... still a lot of incomplete Prime frames and weapons.

I'll admit one thing though, many more weapons and frames now have 2 rare parts instead of previously just 1. That pushes the chance of success much further away.

But in my eyes the odds have been pushed to 'encourage' purchasing them, either outright or through trades. I don't mind a company trying to cover their expenses, but to skew the odds to do so?

[Deity]

Originally posted by Donitsi:

Even with 4 players drop chances are still the same. It's not unusual.

For a Silver item my friend and I opened about 50 relics each before we got it.

Its still the same but its 4 chances rather than 1