Interesting game - How is community so huge still?

[Fedsmoker]

I got this because Unreal Tournament was one of my favorite shooters ever so I want to see what else that team has done but I am pretty amazed that this was like a 2014 release but still has 50-100k concurrent players on average? You don't really hear much about this title anymore, I don't really see anyone on my friends list playing this, I don't see any videos on You tube about this or content creators doing much for it but yet this is really going strong. What does this have that other similar free to play titles don't and fizzle out their player-bases 1-2 years out.

[Dysphoric]

Alternative accounts and astroturf bots.

[Mr. Smiles]

Sweet Heart の投稿を引用：

Alternative accounts and astroturf bots.

Hi veebee!

[Fedsmoker]

Sweet Heart の投稿を引用：

Alternative accounts and astroturf bots.

Seriously? Is that really why? I mean its free so I am going to try it when I have some time to get into something new but the player count is really what keeps catching my eye for what I don't believe is considered a classic all time title?

[Mr. Smiles]

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Sweet Heart の投稿を引用：

Alternative accounts and astroturf bots.

Seriously? Is that really why? I mean its free so I am going to try it when I have some time to get into something new but the player count is really what keeps catching my eye for what I don't believe is considered a classic all time title?

No, he's just a notorious troll in these forums.

It's because they keep putting out content to play.

[ShinobuBestGirl]

There's so many ways and chances to farm the premium currency in this game by doing content that ranges from "tedious and arbitrary" to "This is easy as ♥♥♥♥, why isn't anyone else doing this??" The only things in game that you can't get for "free" this way is the exclusive tenno gen and prime access packs. Doing content that other people dont want to do and using the games cool community to sell the rewards/mods for in game currency is how most players make their plat.

Such a forgiving and cohesive system further incentivizes us to stick around for the next update since this game doesn't feel anywhere near close to as predatory compared to other more mainline free to play games that utilize fear of missing out tactics.

Destiny, Marvels Avengers, Apex etc having battlepasses you have to pay for while WarFrame's is free and refreshes every 8 months or so. The game is great, its just the horrid new player experience and lacking UI that holds it back. If more infortmation was readily available in-game and not via the wiki, this game would be flourishing right now.

[Fedsmoker]

ShinobuBestGirl の投稿を引用：

There's so many ways and chances to farm the premium currency in this game by doing content that ranges from "tedious and arbitrary" to "This is easy as ♥♥♥♥, why isn't anyone else doing this??" The only things in game that you can't get for "free" this way is the exclusive tenno gen and prime access packs. Doing content that other people dont want to do and using the games cool community to sell the rewards/mods for in game currency is how most players make their plat.

Such a forgiving and cohesive system further incentivizes us to stick around for the next update since this game doesn't feel anywhere near close to as predatory compared to other more mainline free to play games that utilize fear of missing out tactics.

Destiny, Marvels Avengers, Apex etc having battlepasses you have to pay for while WarFrame's is free and refreshes every 8 months or so. The game is great, its just the horrid new player experience and lacking UI that holds it back. If more infortmation was readily available in-game and not via the wiki, this game would be flourishing right now.

Thanks for some base info. Any PVP in this?

[Mr. Smiles]

Fedsmoker の投稿を引用：

Thanks for some base info. Any PVP in this?

There is pvp but it is largely dead.

This game shines for its pve co-op content.

[«Wodan»]

Sweet Heart の投稿を引用：

Alternative accounts and astroturf bots.

they let you out of your cage again?

[Papa Shekels]

It's one of those games that people don't ever truly stop playing. There are many people, I would even say maybe a majority (although no data to back it up) that only come back after an update to try out the new stuff or come back every year or two from a hiatus to see what has happened. It fills many niches for people, from grinding endlessly to min-maxing obscene stats to optimizing fashion to idling around in a social hub. It has a ridiculous amount of story for the lore freaks too. And if none of that hits your fancy, it has plenty of unique gear to try out for mindless fun. And as far as f2p grinding games go, I don't know if I've ever run into one that does f2p monetization better than this one.

I think the specific answer to your question is that the above factors work really well in terms of retention. There are many things to pull people in to play it, there aren't many issues that other games tend to have like steep monetization that push them away, and it mitigates burnout relatively well. Then, because there's just a constant stream of content in various directions, it doesn't get too stale or at least brings back the people for whom it got boring

[ShinobuBestGirl]

Papa Shekels の投稿を引用：

It's one of those games that people don't ever truly stop playing. There are many people, I would even say maybe a majority (although no data to back it up) that only come back after an update to try out the new stuff or come back every year or two from a hiatus to see what has happened. It fills many niches for people, from grinding endlessly to min-maxing obscene stats to optimizing fashion to idling around in a social hub. It has a ridiculous amount of story for the lore freaks too. And if none of that hits your fancy, it has plenty of unique gear to try out for mindless fun. And as far as f2p grinding games go, I don't know if I've ever run into one that does f2p monetization better than this one.

I think the specific answer to your question is that the above factors work really well in terms of retention. There are many things to pull people in to play it, there aren't many issues that other games tend to have like steep monetization that push them away, and it mitigates burnout relatively well. Then, because there's just a constant stream of content in various directions, it doesn't get too stale or at least brings back the people for whom it got boring

Damn He got me,I've spent many a late night/early morning coming home from my nightshift gig to smoke a blunt and socialize in region chat for more time than I want to admit XD. There's a itch to be scratched with grinding to go 1-shot a new boss and then theres an itch to just muck about and find new friends in region chat

[Fedsmoker]

So basically this is a really good, free MMO from the original Unreal Tournament studio, with minimal BS and constant huge updates even 10+ years later? A rarity in the market and thus the constant 50k+ user-base on Steam? I had assumed initially this was massive somewhere like in Asia or Korea and that was why...

[Midnight]

Because while this game has kept the same name for 10 years it's pretty much nothing like it was 10 years ago.

The movement, the progression/upgrade systems are completely different and of course there's a mountain of new content. The game reinvents itself every few years.

If the game kept to traditional franchise model we could easily be on Warframe 3 by now. And a popular franchise staying popular would not surprise anyone.

It's also pretty unique. Nothing else around really plays like Warframe. You can get tired of Warframe and quit but you're not gonna move to a better version because that simply doesn't exist.

[Apocaleptic]

cuz its f2p but real f2p. not gachas and loot box roles. you want to skip with money you get exactly what you pay for, not a chance at it and getting garbo. i came back over a year ago and only spend money on fashionframe. OH and once you learn how to mod it really becomes Yourframe and how you like to play

[Tom]

I can't say anything that hasn't been said so I'll just leave a few tips incase you get into the game.

1. Once you start getting into the star chart and wanting more weapons/ frames, you may look at the equip menu and say 'wow all these cost plat this is kinda bs' which was my own first thought. Took me halfway through the star chart using the basic bow to realize, you dont need to spend plat, you pick something hit purchase and it gives you the option to spend credits for a blueprint. Collect the stuff put it in the foundry to bake and collect stuff for the next item while waiting. And if you ever need creds just hit the index on neptune easy 100k

2. Spend your starting plat on slots for weapons and frames. Don't be an impatient dummy like i was and spend it to speed something up in the foundry.

3. Modding your gear is important, and its usually fairly straight forward. 10% cold resist when few if any enemies you've ever encountered do cold dmg or 90% more hp/armor/shields? Should i increase the slash dmg of a weapon that only does fire dmg? Got a weapon with 200 mag size and 4 second reload, use +90% mag size or drop the reload time to less than a second? And if you're just not sure then look up an endgame build on youtube for that wep or frame, see what other people are doing.
Also don't forget to rank up your mods, i dont think the tutorial ever shows you how to do it. Just go to the wep or frame, upgrades, slot in the mods you want, then hit mods at the bottom from there it shows what you got equipped you just click the mod and hit the option on the left to upgrade it.

4. Mastery rank. Lot of stuff is locked behind it, and you get it by ranking up new weapons and frames, always rank up to max level before you delete something just for the MR.

5. Lot of people say dont spend your potatos on bad gear. Why upgrade your Kohm when the Kuva Kohm exists. Potatos being the blue and gold catalysts which double the mod capacity of a weapon or frame. They're decently rare so you got good reason not to throw them around. But to that i say, how are you gonna get that Kuva kohm if you cant kill level 50 enemies because you haven't eaten your first couple potatos? Ya cant. So don't feel bad about spending your first stuff on suboptimal weapons.

6. Join a clan and make friends. I don't really need to explain that one.

[Doom Sayer]

Its not bots or alts. It probably has a lot of people that cycle in out of the game, only play for updates, come back from playing steam launch version, people moving from console. Your basically guaranteed a squad instantly if its anything useful your queuing for. Game has pvp but from i heard not worth pursuing.

Game basically uses 'nodes' that are mostly copy paste missions then the quests are those same 'nodes' or introduce openworld areas, completely new node sets and heavily scripted single player story content. The games biggest issues are opaque design and bugs.

I would say its at worst worth playing a bit if you like games with grinding. I didnt for a while but I spent time grinding in Kingdom Hearts games and Mount and blade and now like grinding if the actual gameplay/combat system is good.