New players take this as a warning

[Tony DeRanger]

So I was about to do "The New War" quest, but in order to do this I need to craft a voidrig, So in order to do this I had to increase my standing with the family on Deimos in order to have blueprints for some resources. Now once I've grinded enough to craft these resources I know have a quarter of the resources needed for each of the voidrigs components. There're four of them. Each of the components requires a resource, the blueprint of which can be bought from a merchant in Deimos each of which requires a different level of standing to use. Following along? No? Too bad, now assuming you could craft all of these components for the voidrig itself, Then once you've waited twelve hours for each you can craft the Voidrig with a 72 hour craft time. All for something that has a fifteen minute role in "The New War." The quest I was originally trying to do. Welcome to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ warframe!

[~Lazy_Eggs~]

Sooooo ... are you saying you sorta want to play the game but not really?

Free games are a grind fest.

Paid games are a grind fest.

What games were you playing before to get you this ticked off on a time gated system?

Casual offline single player games?

Don't get me wrong, I do agree that time gating is bad for consumers, but it's good for publishers. This is the best middle ground game ever in the market.

So if you hate Warframes monetization schemes, then you'll hate every game in existence that has monetization.

If you are ok with other monetization, then it's just opinions, bias, and fanboyism

[Scar]

Originally posted by Renkuya:

Originally posted by Pakaku:

It makes sense from a progression viewpoint, but the problem is Deimos is off the main path, and there is absolutely no content that requires Necramechs besides New War. Not to mention Necramechs are just worse Warframes in every possible way. Railjack is also dead-end content that is never required outside of New War, either.

I don't agree with you on necramechs being worse warframes. Bonewidow is pretty trash but Voidrig is a monster. turning into a turret that can OHK basically everything is pretty potent.

As a simple counter: What warframe can 2-3 shot Eidolon parts without using their gun?

+1

[Vendicator Senpai]

Necramechs being a requirement for the New War always seemed like a last minute thing to me

[Gaius]

To be honest, I got the rig in another quest and outright bought the necromech - this is a F2P game after all, I accepted it as a pretty small price to skip the farm. I believe this is mostly an issue to returning players like me.

My real issue is how the quest itself locks you from playing other parts of the game and how just owning those items - and not requiring a specific level - can lead to frustration.

The necramech part is ultra easy, don't worry, but the voidrig part was a chore. Mind you, I never played that game mode, so not only my rig was really weak but I didn't UNDERSTAND the messages - maybe just using it as a tutorial could help a lot. Mind you, I play Star Citizen and War Thunder, I really like space and flying games, that's not the issue.

I spent a total of maybe 3 hours in the 2 voidrig sequences.

I get the conundrum the devs had - either force people to play unpopular game modes to have a higher lv void rig and necramech with good mods or make it completely irrelevant, and they chose the 2nd, but that also means those parts feel artificial aditions meant to just force people into either a really long farm or buying a pack to skip - but after someone paid real money to skip, the worse thing is reinforce the frustration with punishing missions.

The quest itself is not bad - other than the last fight that felt it was written be an amateur (no offense but there is 0 subtlery and it's a textbook soap opera "abusive husband x battered wife" dialogue with fixed mechanics), there are really fun parts, including the one you play the grineer and corpus dudes, and some cool plot twists. I just feel it either should allow you to leave to grind a bit with the voidrig (and upgrade it) or just have a level req so people didn't feel trapped in the quest like I did.

[Nilats]

Originally posted by Australian-Cave-Dweller:

So I was about to do "The New War" quest, but in order to do this I need to craft a voidrig, So in order to do this I had to increase my standing with the family on Deimos in order to have blueprints for some resources. Now once I've grinded enough to craft these resources I know have a quarter of the resources needed for each of the voidrigs components. There're four of them. Each of the components requires a resource, the blueprint of which can be bought from a merchant in Deimos each of which requires a different level of standing to use. Following along? No? Too bad, now assuming you could craft all of these components for the voidrig itself, Then once you've waited twelve hours for each you can craft the Voidrig with a 72 hour craft time. All for something that has a fifteen minute role in "The New War." The quest I was originally trying to do. Welcome to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ warframe!

Yes. that is actually the case. and the devs make money from it. Because if you don't have patience, you pay too high a price.
The game is therefore more for players who only play casually and take long breaks. I have all items maxed in my profile and only about 18600 mastery up to legendary rank 4. And I'm more of a causal person and do other things on the side.

[Canton]

Another reason that I don't play this pay to win scam.

[tv]

and after all that, bonewidow is better anyway

[Nilats]

Originally posted by tv:

and after all that, bonewidow is better anyway

no. ranged aoe has best performance in the game. only bosses take low dmg here

[qwerty3666]

This post is hilarious honestly. It really doesn't take long to do what needs doing and if you get bored and want to take a break it's not like there's nothing else to do and no other progress you can make while you're doing it. If you don't want to do it for 45 mins a day do it slower. There's nothing forcing you to get to the next thing and rushing through the game will ensure you reach endgame with absolutely no idea what you're doing.
Additionally if you don't want to do the cambion drift stuff you can simply buy the built parts from other players for plat. plat can be made very quickly in game by selling prime parts and blueprints to other people. One evening of opening relics and you can easily make enough to buy the parts needed for the voidrig. Warframe.market website can tell you all the prices and make buying and selling super easy. Warframe is not as some people claim pay to win. It is play to win. Money can absolutely speed up progression but it's far from required and won't realistically help you be any good at endgame content. Experience and mechanics do that, experience had along the your journey to get there.
The grinds in Warframe are time-gated which can be a bit annoying but even then the gameplay time required for any of the grinds is pretty low per day. Your daily standing with syndicate factions can be done in 3 or 4 15 minute bounties. If you get decent squad mates it can be much faster too.
Warframe is a looter shooter. Looter shooters are by definition grind games. If you don't want to play a game that requires grinds then looter shooters probably aren't the genre for you which will include warframe. The average player will take years to "max" an account.

[Tony DeRanger]

Originally posted by qwerty3666:

This post is hilarious honestly. It really doesn't take long to do what needs doing and if you get bored and want to take a break it's not like there's nothing else to do and no other progress you can make while you're doing it. If you don't want to do it for 45 mins a day do it slower. There's nothing forcing you to get to the next thing and rushing through the game will ensure you reach endgame with absolutely no idea what you're doing.
Additionally if you don't want to do the cambion drift stuff you can simply buy the built parts from other players for plat. plat can be made very quickly in game by selling prime parts and blueprints to other people. One evening of opening relics and you can easily make enough to buy the parts needed for the voidrig. Warframe.market website can tell you all the prices and make buying and selling super easy. Warframe is not as some people claim pay to win. It is play to win. Money can absolutely speed up progression but it's far from required and won't realistically help you be any good at endgame content. Experience and mechanics do that, experience had along the your journey to get there.
The grinds in Warframe are time-gated which can be a bit annoying but even then the gameplay time required for any of the grinds is pretty low per day. Your daily standing with syndicate factions can be done in 3 or 4 15 minute bounties. If you get decent squad mates it can be much faster too.
Warframe is a looter shooter. Looter shooters are by definition grind games. If you don't want to play a game that requires grinds then looter shooters probably aren't the genre for you which will include warframe. The average player will take years to "max" an account.

Yes... thank you... I figured this out after I needed to.

[Psychomeld]

deimos is honestly one of the funner open world contents to do in the game imo. Upon getting what I need from there I just sell the voidrig set to players not wanting to farm it for like 80p. Does it take time to get the standing? Yeah sure, but so does every other location. What matters is your desire to engage in that content to begin with.

[tv]

Originally posted by Nilats:

Originally posted by tv:

and after all that, bonewidow is better anyway

no. ranged aoe has best performance in the game. only bosses take low dmg here

voidrig cannot heal and eats energy at an absurd rate, you cannot use it to cheese bosses. It's a waste of development and player time.

[jvjd]

There are a lot of things you have to do in warframe as a new player, those 3 days are basically for you to do something else. wasting plat on that is ain't worth it , you can get prime gear trading with players instead.

[Hotklou]

Originally posted by Cracky!!!:

Originally posted by XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

you can oneshot eidolon limbs with a fishing rod

you have youtube linky?

I would also like to see that. It sounds awesome!

[Kawalorn]

Originally posted by tv:

Originally posted by Nilats:

no. ranged aoe has best performance in the game. only bosses take low dmg here

voidrig cannot heal and eats energy at an absurd rate, you cannot use it to cheese bosses. It's a waste of development and player time.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Necramech_Repair
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Necramech_Rage

Sounds like you're bad at making builds. Not once have I ran out of health or energy on Voidrig.