Rell, Chains of Harrow, and Whispers in the Wall lore theory

[Bec Son]

so all of this is gonna have spoilers regarding Chains of Harrow AND Whispers in the Walls so please read at your own choice.
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you good? Ok I'll start

During the Chains of Harrow questline it is revealed that in order to keep Void Exposure to a minimum but also keeping the Man in the Wall and Operator in the wall (I will just call them, the finger because I feel thats a more natural name for its a finger that probes the outside world) from actively finding you, by keeping the echoes of your mind being opened up too wide for the Finger to just play around with your mind. While the story is being told to us where Rell's mother is helping him identify what emotions are what with the emotion cards actively teaching him how to identify them and process them.

Whispers in the Wall its revealed that the Finger's ability to have strength is indifference, literal nothing, doing nothing, the void between people actually making connections is what fuels the Fingers power to push through the walls of the material world and the Man in the Wall's prison. Theres a reason why it benefits from the constant wars and especially the Orokin, the mass indifference of everyone fuels the Man in the Wall's like a collective unconscious. So when the Tenno finally decides to physically show affection and love in real Loid and Entrati's relationship (which has been distant because of boths inability to show their real feelings) it renders the Khra strand and The Finger's power completely useless, stopping MitW's grasp from seeping in too fast

Then how was Rell able to keep the MitW and the Finger? A transference loop that made a large gap in the void that was used as a beacon and trap to keep the MitW's main power there, basically making it a quick sand in the Void.
But how did Rell manage to keep the MitW in his transference trap? by constantly reliving his moments with his mother, as well as the card training.

Rell being the person who could never understand his emotions managed to stop true indifference by always expressing his own and instead kept them in the open, actively pushing against the indifference by asking for help, wanting to help, and like a river of emotions washed away the indifference.

The Indifference is erodible sand that is washed away by the river of Emotion of people.

If anything I am really hoping they bring back Rell as a character in the Whispers in the Wall storyline to give him more room, being a guide through the process of getting Loid and Entrati back together. Seriously just bring him back and give the Spectrum character more time to develop than leave him as just a one off character (as someone who is on the spectrum and loves this game/lore)

[Wolfender]

Thank you, you helped me understand some old quest i was too young to fully grasp the lore here. I do have a question though, in the end of whispers in the wall, we have two characters, i understand they're TMITW and corrputed Albrecht ? Or are they both TMITW ?

[Khanwolf]

You are simply interpreting this emotionally now? Loid changed a lot, as it seems.

The Community was able to translate the whole Subway and the Requiem Mods, as well as the Zariman Tablets and the meaning of all symbols.

...but i think this is not needed anymore... it is simply a thing people grasp emotionally now instead of rationally.

Originally posted by Bec Son:

The Indifference is erodible sand that is washed away by the river of Emotion of people.

i dont understand. Please respect the Lore!

[Renkuya]

How does war = people are indifferent? People are generally highly emotional when there is a war going on. Hatred is a pretty strong emotion my dude. Also, DE routinely leaves things behind and either forgets or changes history. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't hear anything of Rell because he had "his moment" and now they're on Loid/Albrecht. Just as Railjack is a long forgotten meme, so is Rell.


As an aside, this whole post is incredibly hard to read. Without meaning any offense, clean it up and think about it before sharing it. Drawing connections between War and "indifference" by saying, "Theres a reason why it benefits from the constant wars and especially the Orokin, the mass indifference of everyone fuels the Man in the Wall's like a collective unconscious." is confusing. If you're trying to say people are less connected to each other during times of war, you'd still be very wrong. Mother's miss their son's, daughter's miss their fathers. War is a highly emotional time. Something like Narmer would be more appealing to "indifference" since it would've cut everyone from really feeling.

DE also tends to not write very deep stories. The whole vessel thing and stopping the other vessel by touching it's face is probably surface level mimicking of the start of the quest. Reading into anything in Warframe is giving DE too much credit and sets yourself up for disappointment.