Eximus are completely ruining the fun.

[Delacroix]

I'm already getting pretty annoyed with this Eximus rework. It's ridiculous that they don't take status effects while they have shields protection. This is ruining several warframes and the whole thing gets worse in the steel path.

Every time I go steel path, I always have to use the same warframes that have some skill that makes them invulnerable. And don't even get me started on the damn shield gate, which isn't reliable at all.

The warframe armor system is also a joke and not today. There's no point in having high armor, all it takes is a bombards looking at you the askew or a hidden eximus conjuring 10,000 elemental pools on your ass and that's it... YOU DIE!

What has alleviated this unfortunate situation a bit currently is that you can use the Operate and kill some enemies to be able to revive. But even this has a limit, since if you only come across bombards and heavy gunners this becomes completely useless.

In my opinion, Steel Path is completely poorly balanced. Most warframes can't even go properly in this mode. And it's also past time for DE to review the game's armor system.

The new shield gate duration system based on the number of shields you have, seems to be something very interesting but then we remember that there is no have UMBRAL Redirection in game...

[Midas]

引用自 BoxxyB：

I've said this before but the only players that were ever really affected by eximus changes was new players. While I find them to be a massive annoyance the many things people praise them for simply don't matter to me due to the existence of arcane energize and other self sustainable ways to play. They are a terrible mechanic that in the best case scenario are taken down in seconds and in worst case scenario induce every possible bug that can happen on a given mission, one shot SP protected objectives completely out of the blue and served their most important purpose of being tools that make more than half of warframes simply unplayable in higher level content (including non SP higher level content) on their own merits without cheesy helminth exploits. and very specific weapon combos or mod combos you would only find out through some eceleb and his legion of discord fans that solve it for them so they can milk content for a community that has criminal levels of poor conveyance from the devs while the same top 5 frames stay the same top 5 frames. Not to mention new players can no longer get oberon easily. I genuinely don't know what people are talking about though because its a complete gamble if an SP eximus unit dies to Kuva Hek alt fire thats madurai boosted or if it just eats it like its breakfast but simply put OP you can't argue with idiots that think things like rolling guard and shield gating are honest attempts at balancing as opposed to being blatant failures at it by the devs who are wholly incompetent as is.

I can't imagine how bad you'd have to be to claim even half this stuff. It makes me honestly wonder how low the threshold is that players set for themselves when considering what is supposed to be a challenge. Eximus are just enemies you have to give some consideration to, instead of just killing them en masse like everything else. Most factions' 'special' units that are tougher and stronger barely even register as distinct threats, but the eximus at least get noticed. Most of them are a threat to most warframes in some respect, but you'd have to be pretty freaking abysmal at the game for 'threat' to translate to 'simply unplayable'.

[Midas]

引用自 Delacroix：

You're right BoxxyB, I was foolish to try to have any dialogue. My mistake.

Khanwolf --Age of Pamparius-- Clearly doesn't know how the game works. He said he spends hours in the simulacrum, when it is already known that the simulacrum's statistics are bugs. In other words, what you test in the simulacrum does not match the enemies outside of it. You can use the simulation to learn mechanics and get a better idea of how things work, but never use it as an absolute law.

Having said that, I will follow BoxxyB's advice and leave here, this has already proven to be a waste of time.

And I was almost forgetting iced mcfurry brought up good points. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who have a brain and aren't just about copying and pasting as other liars have insinuated.

You're just mad because most players aren't as bad at the game as you are. This thread isn't much different than someone claiming another player is a hacker because that player is so far above their skill level (or more accurately, your level is just so much lower than you thought) that you can't accept the difference is even possible.

[Midas]

引用自 neock：

引用自 Midas：

It's really difficult to imagine how the OP seems to know so much but struggles with something as basic as an eximus.

i thought the new eximus rework was a pain... for the first 3 hours. then i found out the problem was me, for the most part. frames like limbo suffer in the presence of eximus. that said, once you find a good build that fits your style, and isnt so squishy a kavat farts and you die, eximus are easy. good for energy and health too lol. OP just needs to up his game from level 1 to level 5... on a scale of 100

Yeah, for me it was just the occasional instance of being wrecked by arson eximus until I realized you can just roll through their fire attack to dodge it, or figuring out that it was the blitz eximus that were one-shotting me, and to watch out for them.

[romy]

引用自 Midas：

引用自 neock：

i thought the new eximus rework was a pain... for the first 3 hours. then i found out the problem was me, for the most part. frames like limbo suffer in the presence of eximus. that said, once you find a good build that fits your style, and isnt so squishy a kavat farts and you die, eximus are easy. good for energy and health too lol. OP just needs to up his game from level 1 to level 5... on a scale of 100

Yeah, for me it was just the occasional instance of being wrecked by arson eximus until I realized you can just roll through their fire attack to dodge it, or figuring out that it was the blitz eximus that were one-shotting me, and to watch out for them.

imagine learning from your mistakes... nah you're clearly liars, OP stated it's impossible.

[Midas]

引用自 Romy：

引用自 Midas：

Yeah, for me it was just the occasional instance of being wrecked by arson eximus until I realized you can just roll through their fire attack to dodge it, or figuring out that it was the blitz eximus that were one-shotting me, and to watch out for them.

imagine learning from your mistakes... nah you're clearly liars, OP stated it's impossible.

Yeah, it's just... baffling. I can't even fathom how someone accomplishes anything in any game (or in their lives for that matter), if their approach to anything even remotely difficult is to just give up and complain about it. We're not even talking about anything especially dramatic in terms of difficulty. Overguard basically just equates to not being able to CC them and needing to do more damage. 90% of the time the answer is just 'shoot them more'. How is it such an issue for some people?

[«Wodan»]

It's hard to imagine someone with over 5k hours (1000 more than me) having any trouble with anything in this game. Steel Path shouldn't even be hard anymore unless you are playing with new weapons/warframes...

[ossmpossm]

Ah, space, the Final Frontier

you have to train REAL Hard. the Bill for eximus repairs hits the grineer badly, this ain't your Mother's Dojo haha

just don't bring any ex's to an eximus fight
we may have the Technology, doesn't mean we can repair them lol -------------- luckily the grineer weren't trained in Feudal Japan

[BoxxyB]

引用自 Midas：

can't imagine how bad you'd have to be to claim even half this stuff. It makes me honestly wonder how low the threshold is that players set for themselves when considering what is supposed to be a challenge. Eximus are just enemies you have to give some consideration to, instead of just killing them en masse like everything else. Most factions' 'special' units that are tougher and stronger barely even register as distinct threats, but the eximus at least get noticed. Most of them are a threat to most warframes in some respect, but you'd have to be pretty freaking abysmal at the game for 'threat' to translate to 'simply unplayable'.

Cope and seethe dude, I don't care if you want to sit in your little echo chamber of toxic positive reinforcement. Thats your business. Eximus units are not a challenge or challenging in the slightest. Warframes awful bosses are more of a challenge as they require me to actually do something. What they are is a minor annoyance that serve no other purpose than disabling many of the tools other frames rely on. They are only distinct threats to frames that rely on those tools. for the other 27 of the 53 frames and especially the top 5 frames they are literally a joke that serve no other purpose than to bug out missions or completely end some missions because you looked away for two seconds. Simply put its not fun, making it unplayable. Just because you have a dog water opinion doesn't mean its right. Having criticisms doesn't equate to skill either because there is no skill in warframe. Its a time>investment = fun had game. The most skill involved with warframe is having the mental capacity to open youtube and look for any of the videos that have already dissected the incredibly boring meta this game has to offer at this point in its life cycle or opening the wiki to figure out its dog water conveyance. So yeah if you don't like the fact that people have criticisms relating to a system that make the awful stale meta even less flexible and fun then for the sake of everyone keep it to yourself.

[YisusRagnarok69]

引用自 Delacroix：

I'm already getting pretty annoyed with this Eximus rework. It's ridiculous that they don't take status effects while they have shields protection. This is ruining several warframes and the whole thing gets worse in the steel path.

Every time I go steel path, I always have to use the same warframes that have some skill that makes them invulnerable. And don't even get me started on the damn shield gate, which isn't reliable at all.

The warframe armor system is also a joke and not today. There's no point in having high armor, all it takes is a bombards looking at you the askew or a hidden eximus conjuring 10,000 elemental pools on your ass and that's it... YOU DIE!

What has alleviated this unfortunate situation a bit currently is that you can use the Operate and kill some enemies to be able to revive. But even this has a limit, since if you only come across bombards and heavy gunners this becomes completely useless.

In my opinion, Steel Path is completely poorly balanced. Most warframes can't even go properly in this mode. And it's also past time for DE to review the game's armor system.

The new shield gate duration system based on the number of shields you have, seems to be something very interesting but then we remember that there is no have UMBRAL Redirection in game...

men ahaha there are a mod that can do it insted of a warframe . on deimons , yourwelcome

[Kawalorn]

引用自 BoxxyB：

引用自 Midas：

can't imagine how bad you'd have to be to claim even half this stuff. It makes me honestly wonder how low the threshold is that players set for themselves when considering what is supposed to be a challenge. Eximus are just enemies you have to give some consideration to, instead of just killing them en masse like everything else. Most factions' 'special' units that are tougher and stronger barely even register as distinct threats, but the eximus at least get noticed. Most of them are a threat to most warframes in some respect, but you'd have to be pretty freaking abysmal at the game for 'threat' to translate to 'simply unplayable'.

Cope and seethe dude, I don't care if you want to sit in your little echo chamber of toxic positive reinforcement. Thats your business. Eximus units are not a challenge or challenging in the slightest. Warframes awful bosses are more of a challenge as they require me to actually do something. What they are is a minor annoyance that serve no other purpose than disabling many of the tools other frames rely on. They are only distinct threats to frames that rely on those tools. for the other 27 of the 53 frames and especially the top 5 frames they are literally a joke that serve no other purpose than to bug out missions or completely end some missions because you looked away for two seconds. Simply put its not fun, making it unplayable. Just because you have a dog water opinion doesn't mean its right. Having criticisms doesn't equate to skill either because there is no skill in warframe. Its a time>investment = fun had game. The most skill involved with warframe is having the mental capacity to open youtube and look for any of the videos that have already dissected the incredibly boring meta this game has to offer at this point in its life cycle or opening the wiki to figure out its dog water conveyance. So yeah if you don't like the fact that people have criticisms relating to a system that make the awful stale meta even less flexible and fun then for the sake of everyone keep it to yourself.

Cope & Seethe - Check
Echo chamber - Check
Calling people "toxic" - Check
Claiming at the same time eximus are nothing and that they ruin the entire fun - Check
Complaining the game has boring meta and yet arguing for removal one of the elements that are pretty good at forcing different approach - Check

Congrats! You hit a non-argument bingo!

[BoxxyB]

引用自 Kawalorn：

Echo chamber - Check
Calling people "toxic" - Check
Claiming at the same time eximus are nothing and that they ruin the entire fun - Check
Complaining the game has boring meta and yet arguing for removal one of the elements that are pretty good at forcing different approach - Check

Congrats! You hit a non-argument bingo!

Did it hurt?
when you typed that up and completely ignored that the only people being forced to change their approach are people that play blatantly badly balanced frames in the first place or with low time investments? Or did you really truly believe that was the gotcha you thought it was because if you did I truly truly truly am sorry for your parents loss because I doubt you're going to apologize for it

[Midas]

引用自 BoxxyB：

引用自 Midas：

can't imagine how bad you'd have to be to claim even half this stuff. It makes me honestly wonder how low the threshold is that players set for themselves when considering what is supposed to be a challenge. Eximus are just enemies you have to give some consideration to, instead of just killing them en masse like everything else. Most factions' 'special' units that are tougher and stronger barely even register as distinct threats, but the eximus at least get noticed. Most of them are a threat to most warframes in some respect, but you'd have to be pretty freaking abysmal at the game for 'threat' to translate to 'simply unplayable'.

Cope and seethe dude, I don't care if you want to sit in your little echo chamber of toxic positive reinforcement. Thats your business. Eximus units are not a challenge or challenging in the slightest. Warframes awful bosses are more of a challenge as they require me to actually do something. What they are is a minor annoyance that serve no other purpose than disabling many of the tools other frames rely on. They are only distinct threats to frames that rely on those tools. for the other 27 of the 53 frames and especially the top 5 frames they are literally a joke that serve no other purpose than to bug out missions or completely end some missions because you looked away for two seconds. Simply put its not fun, making it unplayable. Just because you have a dog water opinion doesn't mean its right. Having criticisms doesn't equate to skill either because there is no skill in warframe. Its a time>investment = fun had game. The most skill involved with warframe is having the mental capacity to open youtube and look for any of the videos that have already dissected the incredibly boring meta this game has to offer at this point in its life cycle or opening the wiki to figure out its dog water conveyance. So yeah if you don't like the fact that people have criticisms relating to a system that make the awful stale meta even less flexible and fun then for the sake of everyone keep it to yourself.

What exactly do I need to 'cope and seethe' about? You're the one crying about mechanics that most people have no problem with. You're the one in the echo chamber acting like things are impossible when other people are doing just fine. You're the one lying about how they bug out the game when I've literally never ever seen an eximus cause a bug before. You're the one crying about it being unfun.

Either you're so hopelessly delusional that you think despite all this that you're in the right, or you're literally screaming and sobbing in denial as you type.

So, uh... cope and seethe, dude. Cuz it's not changing any time soon, and all the actual competent players are good with it. Scream in your utter impotency all you like.

[Jet "Walk 'Em Down" Feather]

kullervo and a good melee weapon