Duviri isn't as bad as everyone says?

[TheWargadon]

So, since the Duviri paradox came out, most of the discussion I saw was revolving around the same things : It is bad, it is bugged out, it is the same as usual, it is too different from usual, or any combination of the above. But I, as a sorta-new player (around 150 hours played), feel like it isn't that bad at all. Allow me to explain :
I started the Duviri paradox with 3 warframes to my name : the base Excalibur, Octavia (that was given out for free on prime gaming), and Vauban that I got from nightwave. not that bad, but thanks to the circuit, I acquired 3 more warframes with low effort (just doing a short run af the circuit every day, or longer runs a few times a week), so first off, pretty good at getting new warframes to try out !
Another nice thing : Sun and moon is a pretty good melee weapon, Cinta kinda well moded can take down a grineer ship in three shots, and I got those from either just exploring duviri, or solving enigmas until I had the bow. Not that hard content, to get quite good weapons imo. I know there might be better weapons, but at least those two don't have a mastery level requirements. And whatever everyone might say, it isn't fun for new players to grind for hours on end to just get enough gear to get the next piece of gear. So having some equipment to keep until the really good equipments are unlocked is a good thing, as far as I'm concerned.
Something else that I haven't seen people address : (spoiler for the war within) The circuit is a great place to farm focus. I have unlocked it after I got pretty used to the circuit, and it seem to me that the circuit is so far the best place to farm focus. I went from getting at most 900 focus from a standard mission, to getting 2500 focus FOR EVERY KILL of the circuit's elite enemies (by that I mean the big scythe boi and the rifle guy that splits into 5 and fires lasers at you). Thus, if you get a nice run, you can easily get MORE THAN THE DAILY LOCKOUT IN A SINGLE CIRCUIT! I'm limited to 250k focus per day so far, yet I managed to get almost 300k focus on a circuit run, ignoring that limit. And being able to progress on the focus tree without the daily limits feels pretty good to a new player. Especially since that tree is integral to all the sentient hunt part of the gameplay.
Some people are saying that getting random weapons and warframes, and having presets of mods for them, stops people from figuring out how the mods systems work. Well guess what ? If you have no idea how mods work, you can actually look at those builds to figure out what you might do wrong ! It also allows you to test weapons before crafting them to figure if they are actually worth the effort. And since you are limited on weapon storage, it feels good to know if you craft your brand new weapon for nothing or if you actually like it. Same thing for the warframes. And what is also nice, is that when you have to grind affinity for a brand new weapon with no room for mods, it can be a hassle. But if you choose to use it on the circuit with the preset of mods, you can grind the affinity both easily thanks to the fact that you get your weapon modded for max affinity, AND quickly thanks to all the lvl 30+ ennemies you fight with it on the circuit.

I think that's all the big things that I find good about the Duviri Paradox. Now, I know some people might come to this discussion to say that I'm wrong or it's a terrible update or it makes the game worst, but all I wanna say to those is : if you have to farm for 200 hours to start having fun in a game, that game isn't fun, it is grindy. And please stop complaining about a system because it allows new players to have fun quicker than you did. Salt won't help.
If you have any positive things about the update to say tho, go ahead! Can't wait to find out what people actually like about this update :)

[Donitsi]

Escrito originalmente por Darkdan777:

The circuit is fun but being forced to fight the damn worm every single time but because you needed some plant parts is annoying as hell, just needs a "free roam" like the other planets

That is your free roam as well. Hit ESC and click "Leave Duviri". You will get a message saying "You will keep all resources, rewards and intrinsics obtained up to your last earned Decree."

[Carnasid]

Escrito originalmente por peon:

Like the grind isnt bad enough in this game and they have gotten so stingy with twitch drops and global boosters since they were bought out by the chinese.

This is factually untrue since event boosters are demonstrably more frequent in recent years, and they were not "bought out by the chinese". Additionally, boosters are pretty common from log in rewards.

[Darkdan777]

Escrito originalmente por Donitsi:

Escrito originalmente por Darkdan777:

The circuit is fun but being forced to fight the damn worm every single time but because you needed some plant parts is annoying as hell, just needs a "free roam" like the other planets

That is your free roam as well. Hit ESC and click "Leave Duviri". You will get a message saying "You will keep all resources, rewards and intrinsics obtained up to your last earned Decree."

Oh! they've finally added leaving now, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this is a god send. might not be some damn tedious anymore. cheers

[tv]

I'd be mad too if i spent ten years grinding hydron for focus lmao. Lenses are worthless with the circuit now.

[_ALuX_]

Its not terrible, but it was overhyped to hell and back. Duviri ended up being just another open world except with a slightly different gameplay loop and the exact same grinds and bugs.

Is it redeemable? Absolutely.

Is it a masterpiece? Hell no.

[MekaDovah]

Personally, I find everything about it exhausting and not particularly interesting.

The RNG elements in the Circuit (and the elitist nonsense around it) just make it that much more frustrating and unappealing. I completed a full SP Circuit and a regular Duviri Experience run once and I'm already burnt out on both.

Why should I care about grinding for anything if the next update will just invalidate it somehow so we can "get out of our comfort zone?" or some other dumb excuse to essentially force us to start over?

[mrunuick]

My primary complaint with Duviri is where it's placed in the story. It practically spoils minimum 40 hours of teasing by ruining the surprise of the Second Dream, as well as part of the New War.

[VeraelHasta]

I like Duviri as a general concept and content.
I hate it because all of the bugs, host migrations, getting stuck. I wasted do many hours of playtime because of this.

[Merc]

duviri on itself is alright tbh.
circuit is pretty fun with its roguelike element although i wish theres more decrees that change the way you play rather than just buffs, and drifter combat is decent enough to not put you to sleep at least.
my complain is mainly how much of a buggy piece of ♥♥♥♥ it is, idk why this cheap ass company is hell bent on turning their players into beta tester.

[TheWargadon]

Escrito originalmente por mrunuick:

My primary complaint with Duviri is where it's placed in the story. It practically spoils minimum 40 hours of teasing by ruining the surprise of the Second Dream, as well as part of the New War.

about that, I've seen many posts about the story "spoiling" the second dream, but I just don't see how it spoils it ? I've done the second dream after the story of Duviri, and I haven't noticed anything that was spoiled in duviri. As in, the fact that the operator isn't in the suit but controls it from afar wasn't really "spoiled", as they just tell you that the tennos come to help and all that... And I don't think there is any other real story twist in the second dream than that. When I saw it in the story mission after seeing how the traveler took control, the only revelation I had was "oooooh, so THAT'S what they thought was a spoiler", but I wasn't thinking that I already knew it would happen, which is what a spoiler would have been. That or I missed it. I haven't done the new war tho, so I'll see if it gets spoiled. But yeah, the leaving host bugs and the fact that many changelog said wrongfully that they where fixed is a real issue, I'll agree with that.

[Yaltiaj]

I just don't like it, because it feels like such a random addition to the game. It doesn't suit the setting of Warframe at all.

[tv]

After the bugs, the worst thing is the sp circuit players too afraid to step out of Teshin's cave and finish round ONE or void flood without some sort of meta gear. Can't even function without mirage or volt to carry them.