Warframe 1999 is a waste of DE's time

[Sovereign246]

I'm sorry but that's just what It is. An utter waste of DE's time and money. I get that new content sells more than updating old but why cant they at least develop content relevant to the game? I want to play warframe. I want to play with the weapons and frames that I've spent far too much time on. And instead of developing content that does that they keep adding side projects over and over again.

I really liked Railjack because of it offering to bring all these different parts of the game together. But not only is Railjack its own island, they are now adding more islands that Railjack will never be able to connect with if they ever update it to be what they actually promised it would (spoiler they wont).

And while they are spending dev time on all this guff they then cant be bothered to evolve their retention scheme beyond syndicates. The game is bloated with syndicates. Zariman should never have had one. IMO Zariman should have been an endless mission akin to palace of the dead from FF 14.

I love this game. But the direction they are going in is really starting to wear down my enthusiasm for it.

[Khanwolf]

Duviri gives new Players a Warframe per week plus Augment Mods for free, it is also the endgame farming area for ultra gear.

Duviri also contains one of the new frames and it is absolutely beautiful to have the Horse in the other open world areas, there is no problem with Duviri.

it is beyond me to read such negative feedback here, just because people know exactly what is coming after watching a 10 minute gameplay presentation, where half of that was just story elements.

nobody talked about how cool the new Sand Cave Area was and the new weapon category or how cool it is to have TWO new enemy factions.

[Erei]

A free non prime warframe for like 10h of grinding regular mission with a lodaout you can't change. Such a bargain. Much fun.
The sand cave area and new faction is likely to be a thing you grind for a reputation/whatever and never go there again. Like Deimos. Or archwing. Or Railjack. Or Fortuna. Or Cetus.
Remember the Narmer faction ? Oh yeah we meet them to grind a few weapons and whatnot. Then totally forget they exist except once a week for the archon.
And we sure meet tons of the Deimos infected around while playing outside Deimos, right ? Right ?

[Khanwolf]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Erei:

A free non prime warframe for like 10h of your time. Such a bargain.
The sand cave area and new faction is likely to be a thing you grind for a reputation/whatever and never go there again. Like Deimos. Or archwing. Or Railjack. Or Fortuna. Or Cetus.

the first warframe we saw in there was sweet Ivara. It takes more hours to grind some frames, especially when you are new. Ivara easily takes around 100 spy missions. Maybe it is easy to get Rhino in 6 runs with a bit of luck, but there are some frames where you grind forever, Equinox, Nidus and many more.

you forgot Zariman. It is the same rep grind... or syndicates have the same rep grind for equip and augments/relics. The content isles people dislike so heavily really brought a lot of variation to the game, especially the open worlds and railjack... All mentioned content also brings stuff for new players like Frames, Companions and unique weapons like Zaws and Kitguns and Endgame Players will find Arcanes.

it is possible to skip that all and focus only on classic warframe instead, then you buy all that stuff from players for the Plat you made in Fissures and else. So much options!

you guys should just wait for the first real information about it.

[Illusive Soul]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cenotaph:

I just started playing again this week, Duviri is another such waste of space. It's the same copy paste material grind content that every open world game devolves into and has little to do with the core game.
Why does DE insist on wasting development time creating this kind of garbage.
Why not expand the universe map, create new game modes and maps that people will actually want to play?!
I'm baffled at how DE can not grasp the potential of the core gameplay mechanics and expand on it.

Its waste of space for you,i have much fun in duviri,and you know what,DE put alot of different things for us to have fun,if you not happy,go play something els.

[Illusive Soul]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Erei:

A free non prime warframe for like 10h of grinding regular mission with a lodaout you can't change. Such a bargain. Much fun.
The sand cave area and new faction is likely to be a thing you grind for a reputation/whatever and never go there again. Like Deimos. Or archwing. Or Railjack. Or Fortuna. Or Cetus.
Remember the Narmer faction ? Oh yeah we meet them to grind a few weapons and whatnot. Then totally forget they exist except once a week for the archon.
And we sure meet tons of the Deimos infected around while playing outside Deimos, right ? Right ?

what you expect from a grind game like WF ? hand you over weapon and frame with just few quest and mission ? keep tossing new stuff at your face for free are not enough ? what you want ? a "meaning full" content ? talk so much you still gonna play those content.

Free new Warframe / Weapon / new place to explode,then again people are still not happy about it,WF players.

[Erei]

I expect to grind for stuff I can use to new content. Instead of grinding stuff in a content island that doesn't serve any purpose outside of said content island that I'll never play again. Circuit is a bit different, although I wouldn't call "free new warframe" stuff like Ivara. Duviri, however, is a massive content island and a cheap elden ring copy at best that unlock a few arcanes (after a pointless grind to unlock the area) and a few weapons.

All that serves little purpose anyway, because almost everything DE have released for a few years include very little warframe content. How much do you use your frame in duviri, new war, Khal ? How much do you think you'll use it in "warframe 1999" where the trailer literally show you using a dark sector "frame" with an AK 47.

But hey, at least I'll have new frames and weapon to grind my relic !

[Sceles]

With Whispers in the Walls they are already doing things you wish they would. They are revisiting old content(Deimos), adding a new tileset(possibly), adding new enemy types so we don't have to look at the same old enemies everywhere and embracing core gameplay instead of trying to reinvent it. Like, I don't know if 1999 will be Kahl type stuff or what are they going to be doing with it, but if the update that comes before it does things right then it doesn't matter. And even if 1999 is Kahl type stuff(note: this is just my guess, it might not be) it will still have frame movement from the looks of it so it will not be as bad.

But it's not like you're entirely wrong. Railjack took them like two years and now it's been all but abandoned. Maybe they will get back to it one day but honestly doing two years of work for the underlying tech and then spending like six months putting content on top of that tech is just bad game design no matter how you look at it.

[Illusive Soul]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Erei:

I expect to grind for stuff I can use to new content. Instead of grinding stuff in a content island that doesn't serve any purpose outside of said content island that I'll never play again. Circuit is a bit different, although I wouldn't call "free new warframe" stuff like Ivara. Duviri, however, is a massive content island and a cheap elden ring copy at best that unlock a few arcanes (after a pointless grind to unlock the area) and a few weapons.

All that serves little purpose anyway, because almost everything DE have released for a few years include very little warframe content. How much do you use your frame in duviri, new war, Khal ? How much do you think you'll use it in "warframe 1999" where the trailer literally show you using a dark sector "frame" with an AK 47.

But hey, at least I'll have new frames and weapon to grind my relic !

Duviri are the only mode that limit your load out,other mode,other places ? you free to use what ever you want,the game has given you the freedom.

most of the new stuff are filler,if you not happy,dont play it.

[Merc]

de has always been out of touch with their community. you would think they would stop making content island that nobody like but here we are in 2023, with so much bloat in this game that you can literally remove more than half of the content and nobody would care about it.
pvp anyone? lol

[Cenotaph]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Khanwolf --Age of Pamparius--:

Duviri gives new Players a Warframe per week plus Augment Mods for free, it is also the endgame farming area for ultra gear.

Duviri also contains one of the new frames and it is absolutely beautiful to have the Horse in the other open world areas, there is no problem with Duviri.

it is beyond me to read such negative feedback here, just because people know exactly what is coming after watching a 10 minute gameplay presentation, where half of that was just story elements.

nobody talked about how cool the new Sand Cave Area was and the new weapon category or how cool it is to have TWO new enemy factions.

that's your opinion, fact remains it's another open world with material grind that has barely any Warframe contentn except the duvuri arena.
You can throw rewards at it, that doesn't make it good. In fact, I would argue they had to because otherwise nobody would bother to sit through the mindless grind that it really is.

[Cenotaph]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sceles:

With Whispers in the Walls they are already doing things you wish they would. They are revisiting old content(Deimos), adding a new tileset(possibly), adding new enemy types so we don't have to look at the same old enemies everywhere and embracing core gameplay instead of trying to reinvent it. Like, I don't know if 1999 will be Kahl type stuff or what are they going to be doing with it, but if the update that comes before it does things right then it doesn't matter. And even if 1999 is Kahl type stuff(note: this is just my guess, it might not be) it will still have frame movement from the looks of it so it will not be as bad.

But it's not like you're entirely wrong. Railjack took them like two years and now it's been all but abandoned. Maybe they will get back to it one day but honestly doing two years of work for the underlying tech and then spending like six months putting content on top of that tech is just bad game design no matter how you look at it.

Another perfect example of content geting made for marketing purposes but not for quality of gameplay.
I'm only annoyed because i think there's a lot of wasted potential with the core gameplay loop and DE is not utilizing it to the fullest extend

[[PMC] Portable Merc Collector]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Khanwolf --Age of Pamparius--:

Duviri gives new Players a Warframe per week plus Augment Mods for free, it is also the endgame farming area for ultra gear.

Duviri also contains one of the new frames and it is absolutely beautiful to have the Horse in the other open world areas, there is no problem with Duviri.

it is beyond me to read such negative feedback here, just because people know exactly what is coming after watching a 10 minute gameplay presentation, where half of that was just story elements.

nobody talked about how cool the new Sand Cave Area was and the new weapon category or how cool it is to have TWO new enemy factions.

Ironically as a new player myself the precise reason I DON'T like duviri is because of how much it isn't warframe. I had to go through a fair bit to learn the game, unlock a few frames and make myself comfortable with how the game worked overall. The movement is one of my favorite parts of WF, and the aesthetic.. the characters/frames.. I loved it. I got told duviri would be a nice place for new players to go, and thought "oooh, okay!" So I did the quest..

It was fun and interesting a bit, at first. But then I kept wondering what would happen, and when I'd get access to my frames again. The quest dragged on..

and on..

and on..

After the first two hours I was sick of it and just wanted this BS to end so I could go back to playing Warframe, not whatever this was. But hey! At least I got some rewards for it right? Surely this must all be worth it..

One sword blueprint that isn't even that good.. and a couple other things I've already forgotten because I don't use them.

Devs.. I want to play Warframe, not some cheap low budget Dark Souls ripoff that nobody would ever play when they already have Dark Souls. It's pretty obvious you guys are tired of Warframe. If you are, okay! Put the game on maintenance mode for a bit, work on your next project and just tell us updates for Warframe will resume later.

But for the love of God please stop adding things that add NOTHING to the actual game.. I know there's a constant demand for "new content" from people who can't stay entertained for more than 5 minutes without something new. But seriously! If the new stuff doesn't even connect with what the game was MEANT TO BE, nobody will play it anyway unless they HAVE to. It's quite literally just wasted effort that pleases nobody.

Then again, I'm new to the community so.. maybe I don't know ♥♥♥♥.

[Z3pHyr]

yeah then you should move on and play other games, what else?

[Dadadudu]

Why don't they make a Update with new Maps and varietes in Enemies? A better more fleshed out Survival like PVE Mode with variety in Enemies and Mini Bosses where you can get some decent Loot and take some more Weaponry with you. Make more Weapons viable for SP end game, more bosses, more quests/story with the warframes....

duviri was just garbage, circuit is depressing just greyish and colourless and always the same colourless map and enemies, drifter gameplay is like among the worst i ever experienced in any game

[MekaDovah]

Diposting pertama kali oleh The Big Brzezinski:

So what is it you people want instead?

Personally, I want more content that actually fleshes out and does something with the already established parts of the Warframe setting and more that involves actually using our Warframes so there's more of a point to all the gear and stuff we farm for. Major story events and bosses is where all that collecting should count the most, not be sidelined completely.

Having to switch to someone new every time makes all the effort feel wasted. That we abandon that new character pretty quickly afterwards means there's no real reason to get invested, making the diversion feel like an even bigger waste of time.