steel path circuit takes to long

[bugcz]

takes WAY to long to get to ten rewards with not enuf loot along the way.

[2GenL]

Diposting pertama kali oleh «Wodan»:

Stage 1: 100 Circuit Progress
Stage 2: 110 Circuit Progress
Stage 3: 125 Circuit Progress
Stage 4: 145 Circuit Progress
Also awards an additional 50 Circuit Progress once per day.
Stage 5 and onwards: 170 Circuit Progress

My best run was on the very first day where the team I found stayed until stage 11. Now people are leaving as soon as stage 3... very lame.

It is quicker to do lots of smaller runs than one big one to farm

Take fortuna as an example. If you didnt get what you wanted by stage 3, you leave and restart the bounty instead of staying on for stage 4 and 5. As it is quicker to restart.

In duviri you'll get 125+125(+125 potentially if you are quick)=150(275) in the same time you do a run of 145~170

[Adikos]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2GenL:

It is quicker to do lots of smaller runs than one big one to farm

Take fortuna as an example. If you didnt get what you wanted by stage 3, you leave and restart the bounty instead of staying on for stage 4 and 5. As it is quicker to restart.

In duviri you'll get 125+125(+125 potentially if you are quick)=150(275) in the same time you do a run of 145~170

Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math? 1-3 stage in circuit takes as long as 4-6. Defence is defence, excavation is excavation. Just higher levels. So I prefer to make missions with 170 points, instead of 100/125 points. Especially, if I get good frame/weapon, that I can easly kill enemies.
I dont get it, someone explain that to me, what he ment.

[NineChameleon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Adikos:

Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math? 1-3 stage in circuit takes as long as 4-6. Defence is defence, excavation is excavation. Just higher levels. So I prefer to make missions with 170 points, instead of 100/125 points. Especially, if I get good frame/weapon, that I can easly kill enemies.

Have you... looked at the publicised drop tables? Every reward actually has a higher chance to drop in stages 1-3. Or to rephrase 1 to the second to last Phase. EXCEPT on 5 tier bounties where the rare stuff is 25% on the last stage. On stage 4 drop rates for everything except the common items actually go down slightly. And instead Aya gets added to the drop table.

The only exception I know of are the gold set mods, which only show up in stage 4 and 5 of the 5 tier bounties. So going for them is the most likely instance in which you would stay for the entire thing. But add to that the fact that the first 3 stages are usually much faster than the last 2. People found it was better to bank on the slightly lower drop chance in tier 3's than go all the way to 5 if they weren't looking for those.

Example: Farming debt bonds for rank ups in fortuna. It's much faster to reroll the first drop by quitting and restarting than to do the entire thing every time. Despite the entire thing theoretically being able to give you multiple instances of the same thing.

Example from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ drop tables for teh Steel Path Orb Vallis bounty:

Level 100 - 100 Orb Vallis Bounty
Rotation A
Stage 1
400 Endo Common (50.00%)
2X Familial Debt-Bond Uncommon (25.00%)
10,000 Credits Cache Uncommon (25.00%)
Stage 2, Stage 3 of 4, and Stage 3 of 5
400 Endo Common (33.33%)
2X Familial Debt-Bond Uncommon (16.67%)
10,000 Credits Cache Uncommon (16.67%)
Aya Uncommon (25.00%)
500X Kuva Rare (8.33%)
Stage 4 of 5
400 Endo Uncommon (28.57%)
2X Familial Debt-Bond Uncommon (14.29%)
10,000 Credits Cache Uncommon (14.29%)
Aya Uncommon (21.43%)
500X Kuva Rare (7.14%)
Synth Reflex Uncommon (14.29%)
Final Stage
Aya Common (50.00%)
500X Kuva Uncommon (16.67%)
Synth Reflex Common (33.33%)

So if you wanted Synth reflex, you'd stay to stage 4 and 5. Otherwise below 4 is actually more advantageous.

[NineChameleon]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Adikos:

Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math? 1-3 stage in circuit takes as long as 4-6. Defence is defence, excavation is excavation. Just higher levels. So I prefer to make missions with 170 points, instead of 100/125 points. Especially, if I get good frame/weapon, that I can easly kill enemies.
I dont get it, someone explain that to me, what he ment.

Also I realise I didn't talk about SP circuit so I will.

It really depends what you get as your first mission. For instance, Flood is much faster/easier than every other round. And can be done without killing anything. Same thing for excavation because you have unlimited excavators.

Survival will always take 5 minutes (IF you can kill things, you will always fail if you dont have the frame/weapons to. You only get 2 life support modules in those 5 minutes which are not enough for the entire duration)

Extermination is dependant on how fast you can clear enemies.

Defence is always the longest.

So depends on where you enter. (That is what mission type, I'm relatively sure its a set order) your run could be very quick through the first 2 rounds but then really slow. Leaving before you do the defence round is pretty much always a good idea since it takes longer.

Since I dont run with groups. I'll enter and if I get Flood or Excavation I'll stay. Then play it by ear for doing Extermination and by extension survival. If Im having problems killing things I wont even attempt those rounds. If you fail a round you loose all points gained up until that round. So playing it safe with short runs can be better.

To add to this also. A successful round will rotate your available frames/weapons. A failed round will not. So if you do 5 rounds then fail on 6. You'll not have a different choice of frames. But if you do 1 round and then leave. You will. There is a lot more smart play potential to create better situations for yourself in SP circuit.

Also also. If you do 5 rounds then fail round 6. Next time you go in the frames will be the same but so will the mission order. So you know what you're doing to get.

[MekaDovah]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Shadovar:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Fake:

I now understand why DE made Warframe and weapons random for SP Circuit.

That was easy to know. No matter how many nerfs they do people will use the warframes and weapons they like. As much as they try people will not use the crap weapons or junk frames unless they force you to like in this update. So all updates better be like this otherwise it goes back to players playing the game the way they like to.

Can't have people actually enjoying themselves with a game, now can we?

[Adikos]

Diposting pertama kali oleh NineChameleon:

..........

This is what I ment writing "I dont get it, someone explain that to me, what he ment." Thanks for explaining

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2GenL:

Congrats...

Nice spam kiddo.

[2GenL]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Adikos:

Diposting pertama kali oleh NineChameleon:

..........

This is what I ment writing "I dont get it, someone explain that to me, what he ment." Thanks for explaining

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2GenL:

Congrats...

Nice spam kiddo.

Not really... You tried to call me out ("Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math?"). Then my point got proven that it's an actual strat that works

Spam means posting the same thing by your own hand several times. I have only made three comments in response to other comments. That is not spam kiddo

[Vivianite]

skill issue?

[Q̴̡̼̽̒̕u̸̘̪̾͊̚͜e̴]

if you have halfway decent squads you can do it in like 3 or 4 runs lol

[Adikos]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2GenL:

Not really... You tried to call me out ("Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math?"). Then my point got proven that it's an actual strat that works

Spam means posting the same thing by your own hand several times. I have only made three comments in response to other comments. That is not spam kiddo

Yes and no. I called that worst advice, because it seemed for me to be sh.ity and I asked for explaination. You did not get it?
I called you spammer, because you are. You are quoting 4 long comments just to write "Congrats...". You are spammer :) You cant edit quoted message?
Another example that you are simply spammer. In thread "Railjack forge question", Fake already answered the question, but you copied his answer and extended a bit. That is, thats a spam.

[bobes sponja]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Queequeg:

if you have halfway decent squads you can do it in like 3 or 4 runs lol

if you somehow dont get any game breaking bugs (which I refuse to believe) then yeah, can even be done in two if you get a good start

[2GenL]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Adikos:

Diposting pertama kali oleh 2GenL:

Not really... You tried to call me out ("Yes, its better to leave at stage 3. Especially when you want rare reward at from 4/5 stage bounty, right? XD Worst advice for open world bounty ive ever heard
What is that math?"). Then my point got proven that it's an actual strat that works

Spam means posting the same thing by your own hand several times. I have only made three comments in response to other comments. That is not spam kiddo

Yes and no. I called that worst advice, because it seemed for me to be sh.ity and I asked for explaination. You did not get it?
I called you spammer, because you are. You are quoting 4 long comments just to write "Congrats...". You are spammer :) You cant edit quoted message?
Another example that you are simply spammer. In thread "Railjack forge question", Fake already answered the question, but you copied his answer and extended a bit. That is, thats a spam.

No different to what everyone else does then... So, guess we are all spammers

[Blarker]

So far every time I've rolled Gyre I get a free solo to stage 11-14ish, depending on where the defense is, and all I need is ~2 of those a week plus one more pretty short run for the last remaining points and I've gotten to tier 10, so now I just pop my head into circuit now and then to see if Gyre is there or not, else I leave.

Not too time intensive overall, and doing it solo has meant that I have not had a single progression issue in the circuit. Just got to have a good frame to do it with and carry you, and wait until it shows up.

[SweetOlBrew]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Mr Bendiix:

I found its the host migration that breaks it the most, so every time I see the host wanting to extract, i follow, even tho we would easily do more, just because I am scared of the missions breaking forcing me to quit and get nothing.

DUDE! For real! I get bent over SO much over host migration, its insane
Ive lost HOURS of loot to this, including warframe parts

[PostWarTacos]

You can literally SOLO it in a few hours....