I hate the Wyrm fight and everything it represents.

[izgule]

Honestly I never asked for any of this, why is every step forward a step into the banal world of console games and their stupid mechanics, invulnerability frames, quick time events, shoot the specific tiny box glowing box at the back of something throat for the 3 seconds every hour it opens it mouth... cut scenes, phases. If you go and shoot your boss in the head it takes one bullet... Things just get worse and take longer for no appreciable reason and have some much crap that gets old real fast but they want you to go through it 10 thousand times.

[MotherVicar]

the heck? this is one of the easiest bosses ever.....

[Metal Izanagi]

The one problem I have with the Orowyrm is that sometimes even if I hit the orbs with the disc, I get instakilled anyway :/

[GypsyJester]

how do people have a hard time against the Orowyrm? takes like.. 2 min tops.

[Illusive Soul]

Messaggio originale di izgule:

No, read again, I had a chance to play again, I took weapons which fired bullets, I did it in 2 minutes... guess what I still hate it because everything I dislike in boss fights is still there. The fight was never an issue except I had weapons that could not hit the rings for what ever reason... not bad weapons, they just could not hurt it and the arc gun bug, I lost it faster when I started shooting than the animation to equip, I did 2 rings with it and then gone... I thought maybe I needed to pick up ammunition for it, no clue the fights don't last long enough for the gun to spawn again so I can't see if it was a one off, or I pressed something to make it go away...

I just don't like contrived bull crap, now I cannot do the basic Duveri with any weapon I want I have to make sure I have a hit scan weapon or I might get stuck with one the for whatever reason does not mechanically work with the boss... Which weapons don't work with the boss, I have no clue, was my issue the weapons or was it a random bug, no clue, if I try a tonkor is fro some reason not going work? What about canastas, do I have to stick with a ballistic weapon?

I am still going to have to do the pre-arena discount shadow of the colossus crap every time, which serves no purpose but sap my will to live and give the art team something to get wet over. Honestly there seems to be a big issue with reading comprehension here. I was not salty over difficulty, i was and am salty over contrivance, I knew my arena battle was bugged, and I knew what I would need to do next time, I just dont want to do it.

I would be 10 time happier if they separated the boss fights from the normal Duviri 6 stage quest, maybe give a token you can use. I am much happier spamming boss fights when I feel like boss fights and doing bounties or missions when I want to do that, I don't want to do both.

I don't know, I was having fun in Diviri and thinking this is much better than I ever expected from DE then I had a boss fight I didn't ask for and it was loaded with everything I hate about the last 2 decades of gaming (primarily console gaming) then I was stuck for 20 minutes looking an angry garden worm which due to a combination of uniformed decisions on my part and bugs on the part of DE we could not hurt each other, and I left the mission.

I went back I beat it, too a few minutes, and I still don't want to do it at the end of each mission, I would rather handle it by its elf on those days I fell like self flagellation. If anything its given me a new found appreciation for profit taker.

you can skip the boss fight but you cant earn currency for Drifter new sword. since you dont like fight the boss,just quit when you have earn enough resource,you might lose some material due to bugs. tbh i have never had had bug that cant damage bosses,even your weapon cant damage bosses,the archgun is there,aslong you dont swap other weapon,i believe the archgun wont gone,Duviri has lots of issues rn,you either wait the patch or Deal with those issues.

[izgule]

Messaggio originale di The Punchable KaaBii:

Messaggio originale di izgule:

No, read again, I had a chance to play again, I took weapons which fired bullets, I did it in 2 minutes... guess what I still hate it because everything I dislike in boss fights is still there. The fight was never an issue except I had weapons that could not hit the rings for what ever reason... not bad weapons, they just could not hurt it and the arc gun bug, I lost it faster when I started shooting than the animation to equip, I did 2 rings with it and then gone... I thought maybe I needed to pick up ammunition for it, no clue the fights don't last long enough for the gun to spawn again so I can't see if it was a one off, or I pressed something to make it go away...

I just don't like contrived bull crap, now I cannot do the basic Duveri with any weapon I want I have to make sure I have a hit scan weapon or I might get stuck with one the for whatever reason does not mechanically work with the boss... Which weapons don't work with the boss, I have no clue, was my issue the weapons or was it a random bug, no clue, if I try a tonkor is fro some reason not going work? What about canastas, do I have to stick with a ballistic weapon?

I am still going to have to do the pre-arena discount shadow of the colossus crap every time, which serves no purpose but sap my will to live and give the art team something to get wet over. Honestly there seems to be a big issue with reading comprehension here. I was not salty over difficulty, i was and am salty over contrivance, I knew my arena battle was bugged, and I knew what I would need to do next time, I just dont want to do it.

I would be 10 time happier if they separated the boss fights from the normal Duviri 6 stage quest, maybe give a token you can use. I am much happier spamming boss fights when I feel like boss fights and doing bounties or missions when I want to do that, I don't want to do both.

I don't know, I was having fun in Diviri and thinking this is much better than I ever expected from DE then I had a boss fight I didn't ask for and it was loaded with everything I hate about the last 2 decades of gaming (primarily console gaming) then I was stuck for 20 minutes looking an angry garden worm which due to a combination of uniformed decisions on my part and bugs on the part of DE we could not hurt each other, and I left the mission.

I went back I beat it, too a few minutes, and I still don't want to do it at the end of each mission, I would rather handle it by its elf on those days I fell like self flagellation. If anything its given me a new found appreciation for profit taker.

you can skip the boss fight but you cant earn currency for Drifter new sword. since you dont like fight the boss,just quit when you have earn enough resource,you might lose some material due to bugs. tbh i have never had had bug that cant damage bosses,even your weapon cant damage bosses,the archgun is there,aslong you dont swap other weapon,i believe the archgun wont gone,Duviri has lots of issues rn,you either wait the patch or Deal with those issues.

One that gives a mission failed which is a recorded stat, and 2 that does not solve my issue of want the fight and the missions separate, I hate the fight, but its fast and I will do it at the end of the mission because that's the only way I get to get the rewards, I would have much preferred to have it done like almost every other instance of bosses in war frame where you can say go in and run eidelons all night or do profit taker or you can go do bounties. Skipping just means I never get to do, also I am probably insane and not finishing a thing would probably make me feel worse, I guess I just have to eat my Brussels sprouts.

To be honest the skip the cut scene move is probably the best hotfix we have had to Duviri, I was not happy about having to watch that every time. I still think the limited weapon selection based on boss fight at end is counter productive to random weapon selection and a very bad game design choice, I am paranoid now about a weapon not working on the garden worm. I have a long list of pet peeves for games and increasingly DE seems to be using as a check list for creating new content. I know a lot of this has been in the game in smaller forms, but it always seemed a much smaller intrusion, and something you could would be done with a lot faster and you got to approach on your own terms.

[Illusive Soul]

Messaggio originale di izgule:

One that gives a mission failed which is a recorded stat, and 2 that does not solve my issue of want the fight and the missions separate, I hate the fight, but its fast and I will do it at the end of the mission because that's the only way I get to get the rewards, I would have much preferred to have it done like almost every other instance of bosses in war frame where you can say go in and run eidelons all night or do profit taker or you can go do bounties. Skipping just means I never get to do, also I am probably insane and not finishing a thing would probably make me feel worse, I guess I just have to eat my Brussels sprouts.

To be honest the skip the cut scene move is probably the best hotfix we have had to Duviri, I was not happy about having to watch that every time. I still think the limited weapon selection based on boss fight at end is counter productive to random weapon selection and a very bad game design choice, I am paranoid now about a weapon not working on the garden worm. I have a long list of pet peeves for games and increasingly DE seems to be using as a check list for creating new content. I know a lot of this has been in the game in smaller forms, but it always seemed a much smaller intrusion, and something you could would be done with a lot faster and you got to approach on your own terms.

who cares about recorded stat lmao,you hate the boss but you want the reward,then deal with it,i been fight with the boss with 0 issues,maybe i am just too good dealing with the boss ? you dont get the weapon you want,just dont start the mission and quit duviri and enter again ? 7k hours of game play but cant deal with the issue like Veteran.

Duviri having issues RN,just dont touch it until the fix coming,simple,if you want the reward,stop crying and deal with the boss,it only take you less than 15 minutes.

[C486]

It's the closest thing to a traditional 'raid' we'll probably get. Honestly, I didn't care for it at first either.
But it's been actually fun, especially when you don't have the same tired roflstomp loadouts each time.

Got all the stuff from it, so my two pennies are whatever.

[izgule]

Messaggio originale di The Punchable KaaBii:

Messaggio originale di izgule:

One that gives a mission failed which is a recorded stat, and 2 that does not solve my issue of want the fight and the missions separate, I hate the fight, but its fast and I will do it at the end of the mission because that's the only way I get to get the rewards, I would have much preferred to have it done like almost every other instance of bosses in war frame where you can say go in and run eidelons all night or do profit taker or you can go do bounties. Skipping just means I never get to do, also I am probably insane and not finishing a thing would probably make me feel worse, I guess I just have to eat my Brussels sprouts.

To be honest the skip the cut scene move is probably the best hotfix we have had to Duviri, I was not happy about having to watch that every time. I still think the limited weapon selection based on boss fight at end is counter productive to random weapon selection and a very bad game design choice, I am paranoid now about a weapon not working on the garden worm. I have a long list of pet peeves for games and increasingly DE seems to be using as a check list for creating new content. I know a lot of this has been in the game in smaller forms, but it always seemed a much smaller intrusion, and something you could would be done with a lot faster and you got to approach on your own terms.

who cares about recorded stat lmao,you hate the boss but you want the reward,then deal with it,i been fight with the boss with 0 issues,maybe i am just too good dealing with the boss ? you dont get the weapon you want,just dont start the mission and quit duviri and enter again ? 7k hours of game play but cant deal with the issue like Veteran.

Duviri having issues RN,just dont touch it until the fix coming,simple,if you want the reward,stop crying and deal with the boss,it only take you less than 15 minutes.

"Who cares about recorded stats" well obviously I do because I mentioned it, might have clued you in, I don't know my be expecting to much there.

Maybe with 7k hour game play, I don't have an issue with actually killing the boss beyond the bugs in my first attempt, (something I have stated several times in this conversation btw, you know the words you are apparently reading before you write your approximation of a reply). the issue I have , AS I HAVE STATED REPEATEDLY AND IN A DOZEN DIFFERENT WAYS, is with the mechanics of the fight itself, that I do not like them. And I will complain about it because of the abysmally remote chance it divert the course this game is progressing down. So go away finish high school and come back when you can comprehend the bloody language. Maybe your issue is congenital and I am being unfair because you can't help it.

And while we are at it you Anencephalic Cretin why would you tell me if I want the reward I need to put up with it like its some kind of life advice when I have stated the exact same bloody thing in the very post you have quoted, which I would assume your want me to believe you have read and though decreasing remote also believe you understood.

Honestly it more productive talking to wet cardboard, at least if can follow the principle of not speaking to remove all doubt.

"You don't get the weapon you want don't start the mission" OMFG, again, English do you speak it? I am not talking about not getting the weapon I want I am talking about some of the weapons literally not working on the boss... When I speak I use words, words have specific meanings, the meanings of the words are the intended meaning I mean them to mean, do me the courtesy of reading them, comprehending them then responding accordingly.... don't go imaging what some phantom straw-man is saying, read my actual F'ing words.

Why play the game? For the same reason I play PoE, Warframe is the only game that provides its increasingly diminishing experience that I am aware of so until something better comes along I am stuck either dealing with the bad or having nothing at all. The main meal is great, the wine cheap, the desert has literal poo in and the other diners are dragging the whole place down.

[izgule]

Messaggio originale di C486:

It's the closest thing to a traditional 'raid' we'll probably get. Honestly, I didn't care for it at first either.
But it's been actually fun, especially when you don't have the same tired roflstomp loadouts each time.

Got all the stuff from it, so my two pennies are whatever.

Skip cut-scene has made it 10 times easier to stomach.

[GypsyJester]

Iz, Sorry for thinking it was difficulty. My bad.

Sadly, the quickest run i have had in lone was 20min -.-, so that wont save time either.

Only thing i could suggest... the way i have made sure to skip any bug, pick 1 weapon that has range. Ive yet to run into a full set of weapon choices without 1 of them giving me something for range and damage.

my issue, a lack of them. like someone else said, second rate Wish Shadow of the colossus fight. Seeing the fighting that was in the cut scene... then to get to play what we were given... yeah, big letdown in that area. im just trudging it now for the pathos clomps. Luckily once you run some 30-40 times, you wont ever have to run it again! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

[OM Dim]

Well, too bad if you don't like the worm fight, because if you want to actually unlock and use the Incarnon genesis adaptors: GUESS WHAT! You will have to run through the entire Duvari Experience and worm fights dozens of times. Since this is the only way of getting the resources necessary to unlock your Incarnons. DE wants to lock everyone into 500 hours of 'FUN', every time they have an update, to keep us 'engaged' and to 'avoid burnout'. Did you get all your Quill items in Eidelon? Did you get all your Operaror Arcanes from little Duck? Did you get all the Arcanes maxed in Zariman? Did you get all the Arcanes from Deimos vaults? If the answer to all of those questions was 'YES', you have a mental problem. This is another DE IQ test. if you complete your collection you fail the test and there is something wrong with you. Will you spend 500 hours doing the same thing to optimise a few digital items?

[PoolNoodle]

M fastest run was ~15 mins, got all ez bounties and all were on some island.Dont know if i was lucked out or just got buggy bounties but was nice fast run still xD

[RicktheSmugLord]

Issue is the devs have been on a streak of Content Bloat, which means they keep adding content in other avenues in an attempt to make each different ways of progressing be unique without realizing that It's making it more painfully annoying and tedious.

By that I mean, for every frames and weapons they add there has to be new methods, systems, and mechanics the player has to go through in order to obtain them, and each one is becoming more annoying to obtain then the last, plus the addition of Material #800 on the mix to get people to do the same thing over and over but slightly different.

[Mr. Smiles]

Other than the first time I tried it and got obliterated in the phase change because I didn't notice the horse, then when I accidently jumped off my horse during the wyrmling chase and couldn't find it again before dying to the flame ground...

I looked up how to do it so I didn't waste my time like that again, but I have to admit, that fight is not intuitive like, at all...

We are talking about SP orowyrms, right? I can't imagine people be complaining about the normal mode version...

[aGothLizard]

9/10 for the consistent ironic use of contrivance but also the orowyrm is not that bad. Was a funny read nonetheless.