hildryn prime access prices are ridiculous

[bingbong mc dingdong]

70 dollars for a warframe? shut up.

[ID10T [Overseer]]

they have always been expensive, also.... you dont have to buy her, you can farm her like every other warframe. Needless crying.

[Ittrix]

Origineel geplaatst door Silenzeio:

Origineel geplaatst door 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

How would this be bait when its telling the truth lmao.

What truth? A frame, primed at that with their weapons, some customisation pieces and depending on the bundle, premium currency.

Yeah i'd expect it to cost a bit to skip a farm, have extra goodies and currency for future slot investments for more prime releases.

What a colossal shock!

Hey do we all agree this is just a bait comment or should I clown 'em?

[Nero]

Origineel geplaatst door Ittrix:

It is a 70 dollar warframe, cosmetics, and undiscounted platinum. With no alternative options if you wouldn't want to make such a huge purchase.

Just because you disagree that some of us find that a little insane doesn't make it bait.

The platinum in the pack is actually on a big discount.
The 70 dollar pack doesn't feature cosmetics either. (unless you count glyphs as such)

Going by the base price of ~6 cents for 1 platinum, the 2625 plat in the 72 euro PA equals 157,5 euros from "base" or about 116,8 euros if you buy from the packs with bonus plat.
Thats a discount of ~54% from "base" or ~38% from normal packs and you get the extra prime bling "for free" on top. (I rounded the results mid calculation for smooth numbers)

Its actually insane that nobody bothers to check easily verifiable facts before posting...

[Ittrix]

Fair, thanks for the correction.
Doesn't change that there are way better discounts for platinum and there are no alternatives if you were okay with buying less plat than ~70 dollars worth.

I do count those glyphs as cosmetic actually, since afaik the cosmetics in each prime release are the only things unavailable to the general public. There's also tiers which include prime accessories.

Without considering them all the other avenues are just better. 75% off platinum will fetch you a better plat deal, and buying from the market will fetch you a much better prime deal.

As an example, I can buy 4300 platinum for 50 dollars with a 75% off coupon. Hildryn Prime is worth ~115 plat on the market right now. Shade ~100. Larkspur ~100. So, buying the 4300 platinum pack I can just grab all the other content in the pack and have ~4000 plat left over, or I can pay 30 dollars *more*, get 1400 less platinum, and have two glyphs.
Unless those two glyphs are worth 40+ bucks, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the deal ain't great.

[𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼]

Origineel geplaatst door Craftfaster:

holy cow the copium in here is really strong!

Guys all he's saying is it's ridiculous to pay $70 for a prime warframe and weapons that are BARELY better than their normal counter parts. hildryn prime stat wise has got to be one of the most disappointing things I've seen in a while, would it KILL them to increase her armor or shields? We're the ones keeping their lights on.

People are definitely coping hard and trying to pretend that these insane prices for these packs are reasonable at all. I suspect it's due to the sunk cost fallacy and people don't want to admit when something is actually bad about the game. That or that most people here cleary don't know the value of a dollar honestly.

In reality the prices in this game for platinum, regal aya, this pack and more are ridiculous. There is zero reason this should be anywhere near the prices they are selling them for. The fact that they charge over the price of a full priced game like lets say Elden ring (just as an example) and pretend that just because they put a couple of the insanely priced things together in a pack and pretend it is some kind of deal is laughable at best.
When complete games have far more content, variance and more (Not to mention far less bugs). It just goes to show what inflating prices can do to trick sheep into thinking they have it good.


In reality and giving a major benefit of the doubt (and being very generous for these prices), a pack for 60$ for this game should give all warframes and future primes of them guaranteed upon purchase. That is being generous to them to considering I only put warframes in that.

Unfortunately, just like other gacha games, gambling, lootboxes, etc, weak minded people are easily conditioned to be susceptible to getting ripped off and scammed. Then again at the end of the day if people are not smart enough to not fall for such obvious ripoff they deserve to continue to be treated like a foolish paypig.

[Ittrix]

Origineel geplaatst door 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

In reality the prices in this game for platinum, regal aya, this pack and more are ridiculous. There is zero reason this should be anywhere near the prices they are selling them for. The fact that they charge over the price of a full priced game like lets say Elden ring (just as an example) and pretend that just because they put a couple of the insanely priced things together in a pack and pretend it is some kind of deal is laughable at best.
When complete games have far more content, variance and more (Not to mention far less bugs). It just goes to show what inflating prices can do to trick sheep into thinking they have it good.

That's actually why I used the phrase 'undiscounted platinum' before.
50% off is bare minimum in my books. I don't think anyone but whales and people who don't know better buy platinum off of discount.

I'd like to support warframe. It's a nice game. But the prices are insane. I'm not paying 40 dollars extra compared to your usual deals (which aren't even that good in the first place if we're being honest) so I can have two glyphs.

[peon]

The grinding in this game is just getting ridiculous. Ive opened 6 or 7 axi relics and upgraded them and 6/7 of them were bottom tier parts. Lol. "RNG" for ya, I know.

But those tau forged crystals, I was actually getting some before they did this "new system".

Now the only time I seem to get tau forged crystals is on the guaranteed drop. Now these missions dont even feel worth doing when your carrying half the people. Sure "RNG" but other people seem to feel the same.

I think "RNG" is just the cover excuse here. Maybe they wonder how far they can take it before players actually start wondering.

[Gh0st.exe]

People are definitely coping hard and trying to pretend that these insane prices for these packs are reasonable at all. I suspect it's due to the sunk cost fallacy and people don't want to admit when something is actually bad about the game. That or that most people here cleary don't know the value of a dollar honestly.

What does sunk cost fallacy have to do with this topic? You are free to correct me, but "sunk cost fallacy" refers to, roughly speaking, the habit of continuing to put in money / time / effort into things we already put money / time / effort in because otherwise the previous "investment" would go to waste.
How is that the case here? Not buying the Prime Pack doesnt invalidate the previously invested money / time / effort someone put into the game, neither does it diminish its value somehow. So how does the sunk cost fallacy supposedly factor in here?
As for the "value of a dollar" part: Thats pretty subjective. 5 dollars can be a small ammount for one person while it can also be the difference between "eating" and "going to bed hungry" for another person. And not criticising a price tag doesnt equate to not valuing your money, especially when it comes to a luxury good within a luxury good, and double especially if you can aquire most of it for free.

In reality and giving a major benefit of the doubt (and being very generous for these prices), a pack for 60$ for this game should give all warframes and future primes of them guaranteed upon purchase. That is being generous to them to considering I only put warframes in that.

And what exactly do you base this assumption on? Not to be rude, but from experience i know that most "well, they only should charge X dollars for X content / service / whatever" statements from customers are far removed from any reason or reality and are solely based on their "feeling / impression" (which, in most cases, completely ignores things like "running costs", "the need to make a profit" and such things).
Just to be clear: I am not saying that the price cant possibly be any lower or else DE would run out of business. Its just that most customers arent exactly unbiased either because their "they should charge less" demand mostly comes from the fact that they simpy want to pay less.

50% off is bare minimum in my books.

Same question to you. What do you base this assumption on?

[Ittrix]

Origineel geplaatst door Gh0st.exe:

50% off is bare minimum in my books.

Same question to you. What do you base this assumption on?

Experience. It's my books- not everyone's. Why I thanked the person who corrected me.
But, I typically get twice as much bang for my buck in other games I play.

Non Prime Hildryn costs 325 platinum to outright buy. That's approximately 20 bucks for one character without deals.
The Annie DLC for skullgirls- also exactly one character, costs 10 bucks.
Half. 50% off is the bare minimum for warframe to compete price wise for me.

To be frank it's not even a fair comparison. Hildryn has 4 unique abilities and a passive. Annie is a character in a fighting game made for a 6 button control scheme, not counting supers and special moves (and believe me, they are there).

A fairer comparison would probably be risk of rain 2, who's characters are also in a third person shooter and based around 4 abilities. I can get two characters for 15 bucks in that game's only DLC- and the characters aren't even the main perk of it. It doubles the maps in the game, adds... maybe 30% more items, way more enemies, new alternate ending, new game modes, etc.

[Ittrix]

Other examples include Gunfire Reborn (6 dollars for two characters), Don't Starve Together, (7 dollars a character), Don't Starve (DLCs including multiple characters at around 5 bucks), Shovel Knight (an entirely new game centered around a character for ~10$ per), Borderlands 2 (10 bucks a new character), Darkest Dungeon (character DLC for 4 bucks, alternate campaign and character DLC bundled for 10), Castle Crashers (1 dollar a character), For The King (new campaign bundled with two new classes for 5 bucks)....

the list goes on... and on... and on...
and these are all base prices. Many of these games have bundle deals available around the clock that are even better. Or just amazing deals in general.
I bought Shovel Knight early at 15 bucks, so I got the 4 next games they released for free.
Handsome Collection... exists. 74% off year round. And it's a bundle. Automatically discounts even more based on what you already own.
And of course steam sales, which distinctly are not random but seasonal.

Heck, you can't even use the 'well you can farm it yourself!' excuse because you can in several of the games I listed above too.


TL;DR, I've bought movie theater food cheaper than Hildryn. If you're competing with and losing to movie theater food... you're out, bro.

[SoulReaperAxel]

that much is worth for mommy hildryn

[Taweret]

there is one more thing to put into consideration, if you are completely new player you get warframe and weapon you can use from mastery 0 without waiting grinding etc
and mastery takes time to get

[«Wodan»]

Origineel geplaatst door 𝔼ℂℂℍ𝕀 ℤ𝕆ℕ𝔼:

People are definitely coping hard and trying to pretend that these insane prices for these packs are reasonable at all. I suspect it's due to the sunk cost fallacy and people don't want to admit when something is actually bad about the game. That or that most people here cleary don't know the value of a dollar honestly.

Value of a dollar is based on how much your time is valued. If you make $50/hr then paying $70 to skip a grind and get a chunk of platinum might seem like nothing at all to you.

If you are making $10/hr you probably wouldn't pay it.

And if you are in a third world country making pennies than you would think a dollar is worth a lot.

[Ittrix]

You might not think about it if you make enough that it hardly dents, but it's still a bad deal.

[Taweret]

i agree with the people who say that the prices are ripoff terrible, etc., but you have to admit that Hildryn is something wooooooo,if I was not a fan and a new player to get it right off the bat i wouldnt buy access. the other game that had a ridiculous price that I remember was Path of Exile, check their prices for skins insane, that's why I never tried it, also no big women, Id rather play Diablo 3 barbarian even though its worse game.