What the hell were they thinking with the new war requirements?

[Timmy]

Requiring you to unlock railjack and necramechs is so idiotic. Forcing players like myself to farm for mats to make a necramech (which I dont even want) is beyond stupid. What were they thinking...

[vid23]

Obviously they require you to have them since you need both of those in the quest at some point.

[Flamboyant]

Timmy eredeti hozzászólása:

SoulReaperAxel eredeti hozzászólása:

all i hear is a crybaby

Good post I'm sure you had to rub all your brain cells to make it. :lunar2019deadpanpig:

It doesn't take much brain power to farm rj and mech either, man.
Like, they released it ages ago, mech and rj were waaay harder to farm on release too, they reduced the grind numerous times after ppl like u came to forums, everything has limits, how much easier u want it, NW supposed to be late game content, after u try out tons of stuff, and u just wanna hop in real quick? It might be a shocker to you but all video games are created with $$$ in mind (to some extent, yes, all of em)
Actually don't grind it, if u have troubles farming rj and mech, you probably just gonna get stuck at some point of the quest, most likely jackal phase or amar

[Silenzeio]

Flamboyant eredeti hozzászólása:

Timmy eredeti hozzászólása:

Good post I'm sure you had to rub all your brain cells to make it. :lunar2019deadpanpig:

It doesn't take much brain power to farm rj and mech either, man.
Like, they released it ages ago, mech and rj were waaay harder to farm on release too, they reduced the grind numerous times after ppl like u came to forums, everything has limits, how much easier u want it, NW supposed to be late game content, after u try out tons of stuff, and u just wanna hop in real quick? It might be a shocker to you but all video games are created with $$$ in mind (to some extent, yes, all of em)
Actually don't grind it, if u have troubles farming rj and mech, you probably just gonna get stuck at some point of the quest, most likely jackal phase or amar

Or the Venus stealth section. Yeesh.

[Silenzeio]

Timmy eredeti hozzászólása:

blimsoon eredeti hozzászólása:

Nobody is forcing you to do the hard way.
Please provide more detail on your problem.
Are you trying to farm with some wrong tools?

I don't want to do it at all thats the problem. I was fine with going back and forth to make a railjack because thats content I actually wanted to do but this necramech ♥♥♥♥ is totally uninteresting to me I dont see myself ever using it and it seems to be even harder to unlock than the railjack.

You're seriously losing out on how fun mechs are just by writing them off without having one to run some bounties in or in RJ missions.

[Razer]

Timmy eredeti hozzászólása:

Razer eredeti hozzászólása:

They gave away Necramechs, they made getting a Railjack super easy. In fact you can buy both with platinum. So if you don't like gathering materials for these things you can just collect prime parts and sell those until you have enough to buy these things. Lots of options. Necramech comes with arguably the best archgun in the game. It's worth it just for that.

What were they thinking? They were thinking the New War and subsequent content is for players that have unlocked everything and know how to play. It's not for people just starting out.

Railjack and necramech should be side content, end of story. Forcing people to play through and grind for material to unlock a main story quest is stupid. I have zero interest in using a necramech but I'm forced to make one and worse yet Im forced to grind for it just to play the next part of the story, something that came out almost 2 years ago. It's stupid plan and simple.

The entire game is setup this way. Anyway, just spend plat on it. Complaining on a steam user forum isn't going to get you through this any quicker.

[bobes sponja]

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Ya its pretty crap especially when nobody even uses the railjack anymore.

speak for yourself, I still need to play it for a couple hundred hours to get enough holokeys :D

[Kawalorn]

They thought that if they didn't do that you crybabies would start screaming "Content island!" again.

[Daegon]

If you don't want to play the game then uninstall Warframe.

[player7112]

Daegon eredeti hozzászólása:

If you don't want to play the game then uninstall Warframe.

I think that won't be easy for him, Warframe already taken his mind, he is trying to leave the game but he couldn't, Maybe we should ask his mom to pull him out of the game.
*Looking at his mom's profile* *OMG NO, his mom is Legendary 2*

[PoolNoodle]

so because you dont wana do something, it should not be in reqs? fk it, i dont wana do quest at all then, i just wana log in and get story,

[NashEquil]

This post is just another example of a player that just came to Warframe, watched some videos and they can't get the best weapons, make the best build, and get the best mods until they get past a MSQ. Its good they have content like this. It sends the cry babies back to WoW, Fortnite, or Call of Dooty.

[kusiARES]

i don t

[SadPlatty©]

TL:DR - How dare a game developer try and gate end-game content behind having actually played the game to unlock your powers/gear; especially in a 10+yr old fremium title still getting new content. I get people think they should be able to do whatever within a week of picking the game up, but everything takes time.


Honestly - while I didn't care for either up-front, and still only touch my Necramech when absolutely necessary, I think it makes sense to require both; it opens up the possibility to care less about designing end-game content with new players in mind. Additionally - some people think it crazy to require anything like this to move forward, but most of the game is content gatting up-front:
- relays to other planets have requirements
- numerous guns require mastery
- some activities require max ranked Frame + guns to do
- Ropalolyst is possible with Mote Amp, but you want a better one for farming
- Lich/Sister boss fights require at least a Rail-jack
- lot of content requires gems/ore that requires you to have ranked various standings
- need plat or luck to get some required mods or Baro Ki'teer loot
- standing drives a number of missions or loot
- Frame and Weapon slots also require plat, or farming events like Nightwatch
- Frames and Weapons take anywhere from 12 hours to 84 hours to build without rushing

There is more - but it's not like they just slammed the book down saying "this thing with no use is now required", and have made things somewhat easier (not to mention this was a known requirement for a while before). Doubt they where going to literally give them out like K-Drives for Yurelli (as otherwise she is also gated behind you needing one and having some K-Drive ability).

This allows them to now design content that does include the Railjack and/or Necramech in heavier doses if they deem fit. Orphyx for example is them leaning into both. Now, if for some reason the Duvari Paradox leverages these things, DE basically already got the "heart-ache" out of the way already to say both will be 100% required.

Otherwise - don't want either, you can still beat just about everything beyond Orphyx/Railjack systems/New War onward; which is also getting more content still regardless (Citrine and Voruna don't require either). Your only willingly missing out on the story.

[Aerond]

You can always expect that the newer WARFRAME contents will always use the previous updates stuff.

[deadrop66]

"OH NO I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!"