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mikemike1239 2016 年 8 月 8 日 下午 2:30
Long range weaponry
Does long range weaponry like sniper rifles and mods that increase zoom have a big part in warframe? To me all the combat seems to be short to mid range not really long enough for a sniper rifle. And if the situation requires a sniper then a automatic rifle can possibly do the same job equally or better.
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Nishi 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 4:01 
Sniper rifles are used to great effect when you're playing in the support role for a team. Being able to dish out a thousand damage in one trigger pull is good when you need to take out a Bombard or Ancient at some distance away, without the accuracy of your shots falling off like it would with shotguns or assault rifles.

Snipetron (and Snipetron Vandal) also has a neat innate-puncture feature that allows you to shoot through multiple enemies at one time, and Lanka can become a crowd-buster when modded with crit/status in mind (with the addition of gas/electric damage, which affects an area).

Like everyone has said, it's down to personal playstyle and situation. That doesn't mean that it can't be a big part of Warframe (minus the zoom mods).
fragball 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 6:28 
as much as i like sniper rifles, i only use them when i'm either forced to do so or when i need its mastery points. there isn't much fun using them in warframe except when going solo (and also maybe in stealth too). in a team with 3 non-sniper, the enemies are either dead to fast to get any kind of usefull chain going or (in high level missions) they run around like cockroaches when the light goen on - only a slow-nova will then make it usefull again.
all in all, either the weapon class itself needs some change or we need more wide open maps where we could snipe heads off from 1km away (and THAT is what i like in sniper weapons all along). for now, i see neither of it happen and therefore all my sniper rifles are taking dust except for those arkward sorties that forces me to compromize...
njdevil2k2 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 8:31 
引用自 Tulipunahapero
引用自 njdevil2k2
git gud lol... vulkar wraith with 3 formas and a potatoe will do you justice.... if you know how to mod it

Is this community seriously using "Git gud" on arguements they do not fit in?

"If you know how to mod it" What about this? I never complained their stats. I complained hipfire. You are constantly on the move but sniper rifles will punish you for moving and if you do not take 1 seconds to aim every single time.

Sniper rifles aren't efficient enough in certain mission types but can help a team if you find a spot where you can shoot heavy units.
lol man you really have a problem with sniper rifles dont you... well if your a simulor person why not spam orbs and stop complaining ...its not like they have a EBR in this game....(they actually do ... just has no scope and massively effective, imma let you figure that one out) oh well...stick with what you know
Donitsi 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 njdevil2k2
lol man you really have a problem with sniper rifles dont you... well if your a simulor person why not spam orbs and stop complaining ...its not like they have a EBR in this game....(they actually do ... just has no scope and massively effective, imma let you figure that one out) oh well...stick with what you know

Yes I do because they are not usually good choise. One sniper in the squad isn't bad thing but Nullifier for example are big issue for snipers. Why are you getting so angry that you call me "Simulor person"? Why pick sniper when you can choose a machine gun that has great and can clear whole room in seconds?

Give me ideas, suggestion or counter arguements why snipers are one of the greatest thing in this game instead of trying to insult me. You would look less like brain cells lacking Warframe player. Crush me with suggestions that I gave you because you are not convicing at all.
最后由 Donitsi 编辑于; 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 8:54
njdevil2k2 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 8:57 
引用自 Tulipunahapero
引用自 njdevil2k2
lol man you really have a problem with sniper rifles dont you... well if your a simulor person why not spam orbs and stop complaining ...its not like they have a EBR in this game....(they actually do ... just has no scope and massively effective, imma let you figure that one out) oh well...stick with what you know

Yes I do because they are not usually good choise. One sniper in the squad isn't bad thing but Nullifier for example are big issue for snipers. Why are you getting so angry that you call me "Simulor person"? Why pick sniper when you can choose a machine gun that has great and can clear whole room in seconds?

Give me ideas, suggestion or counter arguements why snipers are one of the greatest thing in this game instead of trying to insult me. You would look less like brain cells lacking Warframe player. Right now you are not convicing at all. Crush me with suggestions that I gave you.
have a good secondary... you are not limited to just your sniper rifle... you even have a choice of melee... i mean you finding excuses as to why you cant when you can and just switch the two functions of weapond... single shot primary multi shot secondary single shot secondary multi shot primary.. whats so hard about that?
Donitsi 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 9:11 
引用自 njdevil2k2
have a good secondary... you are not limited to just your sniper rifle... you even have a choice of melee... i mean you finding excuses as to why you cant when you can and just switch the two functions of weapond... single shot primary multi shot secondary single shot secondary multi shot primary.. whats so hard about that?

Problem is that snipers are not fun to use. Zooming gives nice damage bonus but not great addition in tight areas and there are very few giant rooms and because of objective you can rarely spend time in those areas. Why the hell snipers have to have 3 second reload time as well? Would they seriously be too powerful then? In other videogames like CoD, battlefield and even Deus Ex: HR have fast reload speed.

Warframe players in Official forums are able to explain issues better and more beautiful English than I can.

"Sniper Rifles and this game just don't mesh well because of how fast paced it is." -Ceryk

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/684265-snipers-feel-so-clunky/

". Every weapon type should have god tier weapons so that people can play what kind of weapon they want. Shotguns, Rifles and Bows have multiple god tier weapons, Launchers have one. Snipers have 0. When people cried that shotguns were garbage DE buffed them and gave them god tier weapons. All other weapon types except snipers are viable (maybe not launchers but that's a different topic). But snipers aren't because most of them are single target weapons in a game where you fight hordes of enemies. Let's see which ones can be used for the hordes. Lanka and Snipetron Vandal, unless you sacrifice a mod slot on the others. Lanka is a very good weapon with qol issues, but you know that already. Snipetron Vandal is a decent gun with with innate punchthrough that used to be very good because of it's combo counter but then went on to become mediocre because DE stealth nerfed it. Sure, Rubico is a very good gun, but it's held back because it's a single target weapon. " -Skycook3y

"But you are right in a couple of points. For instance, why the bonus cannot be applied whole just when you aim, instead of increasing when you zoom in. With Vectis, the 10x zoom is manageable, but for the Lanka and pretty much every sniper with three zoom level is hard to aim in most situations. " -TheGoodDarius

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/684612-lets-talk-snipers/
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/621256-do-snipers-even-have-a-place-in-warframe/?page=2
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/684712-to-everyone-posting-sniper-threads-heres-an-easier-bandaid/
最后由 Donitsi 编辑于; 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 9:19
MystMan 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 9:34 
Snipers aren't practical for the overall gameplay, the way things are now.

Very high damage but slow reload, small clips, low rate of fire and single target.

More than half the tilesets of the game do not give you much opportunity to use sniper rifles, especially when you're being swarmed by 30+ enemies in Grineer mine tunnels or Corpus station hallways.
Snipers excel at big open areas, which there are not many of.

I only find Snipers useful for Defense and Interception missions, due to their map layouts. For other missions where you are constantly running and staying on the move in corridors, any other weapon type is simply a more practical choice; especially now that hip firing with a sniper rile is a no-no.

Bring a good secondary? Might as well not equip a primary at all then since a sniper rifle will get little use in a map / mission type not suited for it. All other primaries in every other non-sniper category will get the job done much efficiently in enclosed maps.

I have had an idea for some time now for a new mission type that could be added to the game that excels at using sniper/bow and a lot less effective for other weapon types. I might put it in the WF forums one of these days.
最后由 MystMan 编辑于; 2016 年 8 月 9 日 上午 9:40
Alizarin 2016 年 8 月 9 日 下午 3:50 
People say snipers aren't effective, here I am popping lvl 100 corrupted bombards with 2 shots. It really is just down to your preference, also vectis pops a nullifier in 4-5 shots so it isn't completely useless
Konachibi 2016 年 8 月 9 日 下午 3:56 
My Mesa loadout uses a sniper rifle rather well. She has a Rubico for her primary, Akvastos for secondaries and Redeemer for melee. When it comes to mowing down trash in groups, the Vastos do their job really well, if I need to pop a tough target the Rubico does it with ease, and if anything gets too close, a Redeemer shot will take care of it, or at least ragdoll it away from me so it can be shot from range. It's not just a matter of how you use it, but what you use with it that make sniper rifles viable weapons.
最后由 Konachibi 编辑于; 2016 年 8 月 9 日 下午 3:57
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