Crit pistol build?

[METHSTROKE]

Just got primed pistol gambit to rank 11 and I put it on my lex prime, haven’t tested results but I’m not very impressed by the increase, if anyone has anyone other pistol recommendations or any sort of crit mod I’m missing out on please tell m
Thanks in advance

[Deathy]

Which mr are you?
Lex prime is not really the best secondary, do you just have pistol gambit on it?

[JebKerman]

ideally you want (Primed) Target Cracker to add more oomph to the Crits.

the only other notable crit mods for secondaries are
Hydraulic Crosshairs: +135% Crit Chance on Headshot for 9s
Sharpened Bullets: +75% Crit Damage on Kill for 9s

Both are Acolyte mods, however Hydraulic Crosshairs can also be found (relatively commonly) from Lua Spy.

[massgunner32]

Lex primes has a good crit chance but is kinda powercreeped by pistols with more efficient functionality, if you desire to increase your crit chance some more i suggest that you should look for [creeping bullseye], this mods gives some more of it.

Also, the Kavat Adarza has crit chance buffs available, the most extreme measure is to use [hidraulic crosshairs] but i don't think you can afford to use it.

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by massgunner32:

Also, the Kavat Adarza has crit chance buffs available, the most extreme measure is to use [hidraulic crosshairs] but i don't think you can afford to use it.

Smeeta offers another crit chance buff, automatic orange crits, though only for the owner instead of Adarza's buff for the team.

[massgunner32]

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

Originally posted by massgunner32:

Also, the Kavat Adarza has crit chance buffs available, the most extreme measure is to use [hidraulic crosshairs] but i don't think you can afford to use it.

Smeeta offers another crit chance buff, automatic orange crits, though only for the owner instead of Adarza's buff for the team.

Yeah, sadly you are gambling with Smeeta, i found more realiable to stay with Adarza.

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by massgunner32:

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

Smeeta offers another crit chance buff, automatic orange crits, though only for the owner instead of Adarza's buff for the team.

Yeah, sadly you are gambling with Smeeta, i found more realiable to stay with Adarza.

Oh for sure. But it's not like the other buffs aren't great, that double XP/resource, even the insta-reload is appreciated.

[massgunner32]

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

Originally posted by massgunner32:

Yeah, sadly you are gambling with Smeeta, i found more realiable to stay with Adarza.

Oh for sure. But it's not like the other buffs aren't great, that double XP/resource, even the insta-reload is appreciated.

I know, Smeeta is great, i simply choose Adarza for an entirely crit focused approach.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Hornet Strike - Barrel Diffusion - Lethal Torrent - Primed Pistol Gambit
Jolt - Pistol Pestilence - Primed Heated Charge - Primed Target Cracker

This is the go-to crit/hybrid build that I've used for the past year or more on most secondaries. It is expensive, often requiring 3 to 5 Forma depending on the weapon's default polarities, but quite effective in my experience. If the weapon has poor status chance, you can replace Jolt and Pistol Pestilence with their 90% equivalents if you're okay with adding even more Forma to the mix.

[Sgt. Hopeless]

you can try pandero and/or crit-based kitguns.
and yeah, you should use pistol gambit with at least target cracker.

[^0[.SAS.]^4HunterCat]

Akbolto prime have the biggest crit chance in pistols(36%) and well the bolt is slow and damage is kinda weak, but you probably may want to try those or atleast look at stats in some build builder thingy
and i would really suggest just build crit based kitgun (tombfinger or catchmoon) since they basicly are op

[Sceles]

Lex P is not a good weapon and it has never been a good weapon. With a maxed build you'll deal roughly 25k per shot if you crit and that's a huge if because it doesn't get even close to 100% crit chance and when you don't crit it hits like a wet noodle. Meanwhile there are weapons like Catchmoon, Tombfinger, Euphona P, Pyrana P, etc. that hit several times harder and have a higher chance to crit.

Honestly people should just stop recommending this trash gun to new players. It's MR8, they can get plenty of good weapons at that point! It used to be MR0 but they raised it to MR5 in 2017 and raised it even further after that. Back in 2017 it was a decent weapon for someone who's totally new to the game, now it's just plain bad.

[Shuri]

put your maxed out Primed Pistol Gambit and Primed Target Cracker on your Catchmoon or Tombfinger. especially if you build it for maxed crit and low status.
erase your enemies from existence

[Watermelons]

Originally posted by Sceles:

Lex P is not a good weapon and it has never been a good weapon. With a maxed build you'll deal roughly 25k per shot if you crit and that's a huge if because it doesn't get even close to 100% crit chance and when you don't crit it hits like a wet noodle. Meanwhile there are weapons like Catchmoon, Tombfinger, Euphona P, Pyrana P, etc. that hit several times harder and have a higher chance to crit.

Honestly people should just stop recommending this trash gun to new players. It's MR8, they can get plenty of good weapons at that point! It used to be MR0 but they raised it to MR5 in 2017 and raised it even further after that. Back in 2017 it was a decent weapon for someone who's totally new to the game, now it's just plain bad.

You need to get off your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and stop acting like you're capable of saying anything with the slightest bit of accuracy to the "objective" tone you take with your statements.
The Lex Prime has always been a fine weapon, even if it has been power crept. If you don't think so, then likely the only thing trash around are your builds for it.
Lex Prime did by me fine with nothing but a catalyst in Sorties back when I used it often. And with the standard set up Chatbot above suggested, I see absolutely no problem with it outside of particularly rough Sortie situations.

inb4 "Sorties are a low bar to set for good weapond", then get the hell out of here and stick to the 1% of the 1% of set ups you like to meta slave over for your five hour endurance runs, yeah?

[Deathy]

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

Originally posted by Sceles:

Lex P is not a good weapon and it has never been a good weapon. With a maxed build you'll deal roughly 25k per shot if you crit and that's a huge if because it doesn't get even close to 100% crit chance and when you don't crit it hits like a wet noodle. Meanwhile there are weapons like Catchmoon, Tombfinger, Euphona P, Pyrana P, etc. that hit several times harder and have a higher chance to crit.

Honestly people should just stop recommending this trash gun to new players. It's MR8, they can get plenty of good weapons at that point! It used to be MR0 but they raised it to MR5 in 2017 and raised it even further after that. Back in 2017 it was a decent weapon for someone who's totally new to the game, now it's just plain bad.

You need to get off your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and stop acting like you're capable of saying anything with the slightest bit of accuracy to the "objective" tone you take with your statements.
The Lex Prime has always been a fine weapon, even if it has been power crept. If you don't think so, then likely the only thing trash around are your builds for it.
Lex Prime did by me fine with nothing but a catalyst in Sorties back when I used it often. And with the standard set up Chatbot above suggested, I see absolutely no problem with it outside of particularly rough Sortie situations.

inb4 "Sorties are a low bar to set for good weapond", then get the hell out of here and stick to the 1% of the 1% of set ups you like to meta slave over for your five hour endurance runs, yeah?

+1

[No_Quarter]

Originally posted by JebKerman:

Sharpened Bullets: +75% Crit Damage on Kill for 9s
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pretty unreliable imho, Augur Pact gives you same damage output if you already have Primed Target Cracker so I would not go for less consistent option. Not to mention that if your riven has +cd then it's a no no.

Originally posted by JebKerman:

Hydraulic Crosshairs: +135% Crit Chance on Headshot for 9s.

only on couple of weapons, Knell for example, or in cases where you can reach orange crits just because of that. Increasing your critical chance from 60% to 70% with that mod is not really a dream come true, especially when you take into account reliability of it and struggle with ever broken hitboxes.

Now on topic, your average critical based build for secondaries would be:
Hornet Strike, Barrel Diffusion, Lethal Torrent, Primed Pistol Gambit, Primed Target Cracker, 2 elementals you want, I take Primed Heated Charge and Convulsion for Radiation and max output since it's a Prime mod, and last mod depends on a a weapon.

If weapon has no drawbacks then like Magnum Force, Augur Pack or anything.
If weapon has long reload then reload mod goes in there, same for low rate of fire.
If you have a riven well it obviously goes there, but that is arguable because if riven has like electricity then it replaces Convulsion or any other elemental.

With critical build it is all about that high damage, so 60/60 double stat mods are not that of a use, but if weapon has some reliable status and good rate of fire to make use of it then why not throw in one 60/60 and see how it goes.

Originally posted by Something Something Watermelons:

inb4 "Sorties are a low bar to set for good weapond", then get the hell out of here and stick to the 1% of the 1% of set ups you like to meta slave over for your five hour endurance runs, yeah?

I love that argument, because NO ONE does long endurance above 2 hours and barely few people ever met lvl 500 enemies.

Also the argument of weapon being bad because of imaginary enemy you will never fight with it, like, I can enjoy a weapon and be aware it is not good to fight super hard enemies.

Which leads me to this utter bs

Originally posted by Sceles:

Meanwhile there are weapons like Pyrana P,

because once you cannot kill 3 enemies fast enough Pyrana Prime becomes dodo in high levels. X build may make it reach lvl 100 before it starts struggling to do that, or it may reach lvl 150. But it will struggle eventually and will eventually become 50% worse weapon than anything else to fight your imaginary lvl 500 enemies he never saw, maybe apart from John Prodman but either way Mesa deals with him and

Because if he did - he would NEVER mention Pyrana Prime as a "strong" weapon.

Because if anything, it is a quite strong weapon for mid-to-high levels.

To be clear, Lex is not the most reliable weapon, it hits like a truck but recoil makes it unreliable imho.
But I gotta point it out that

Originally posted by Sceles:

Lex P doesn't get even close to 100% crit chance

is another pile of BS, as base CC is 1% higher than of Pyrana Prime and both require a riven to reach orange crits.

71% critical chance with primed Pistol Gambit is MORE than enough for a reliable chance to crit.

Also orange critical is NOT 2 yellow criticals. Bet 99% of meta slaves do not know that.

So yeah, meta slavery is is not really a strange concept, no ability to think for your self, no ability to be objective and see good sides of things that aren't meta, all because of runs you never did or will likely never do.