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Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:30am

Selling/Buying Kuva Liches heads up

The new dojo room, called "The Crimson Branch" is required to trade kuva liches; even though the trading post and the process look exactly the same as "basic" trading post, kuva liches as a tradable option available only through the trading post of a new room;
Buyer has to have no active lich at the moment, he has to be lich-free, because the one he buys becomes his currently active lich;
In the trading menu chose "items" then type in the search bar "lich" or "kuva" for liches eligible for trade to appear;
When choosing the lich from the list of captured/enslaved ones, seller can right click each of them to see the full bio and make sure they are selling the correct one; buyer can do the same when the lich icon appears in one of 6 slots of the trade deal, to make sure the correct lich is being offered;
Only one lich can be traded at a time;
After the lich was traded the tag in his bio in codex is changed from "enslaved" to "traded", therefore they cannot be traded again;
Ephemera liches are better to be enslaved rather than vanquished - that way both the initial owner (potential seller) and future owner (potential buyer) will have ephemera as a drop from the same lich;

Source:

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1141762-dev-workshop-kuva-lich-changes-coming-soon%E2%84%A2/
Personal experience (sold a bunch already).

Last edited by Jodyxe; Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:54am

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Ivara Ara

Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:35am

So what are the prices for these liches anyway? And is trade chat just a spam of liches now?

Last edited by Ivara Ara; Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:35am

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:42am

Originally posted by Ruben T:
So what are the prices for these liches anyway? And is trade chat just a spam of liches now?

I sell for 200 plat each, they arent something rare, all heat element, % varies from 25 to 40, no ephemeras. They just take too much time and effort to sell them for 20 plat each. I was looking at "What Stalker" package where they have 3 weapons and one color palette for 800 plat. So I decided 200 per weapon that you cant buy from the market and have to work to farm for is fair.

I would not say that the trade chat is filled with offers, but there are plenty already. I saw WTS ephemera offers for 650 plat, and WTB ephemera offers for 200 plat. The fact that it is only Day 1 of lich market, those offers will only appear more often.

Archwraith has Warframe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:04am

Originally posted by in:
200p for a lich? Lol people are giving them away for free, bought one for last missing weapon for 40p, got 3 offers at once..

Market is always the craziest during the first week.

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:08am

Originally posted by in:
200p for a lich? Lol people are giving them away for free, bought one for last missing weapon for 40p, got 3 offers at once..

Yeah, people. But never yourself. When it is about your personal time and effort, things start to look rather different

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:17am

Originally posted by in:
Thing is, people still need to do whole hunt again. The only thing that it saves is rng to avoid getting already owned type of weapon. You offer no ephemera and mediocre elemental percentage and even it's heat. Well I guess if people actually buy them from you, you are lucky.

The offer I make saves the time for getting the missing weapon. Remember yourself being after the Hate or Despair. Same thing.

Ivara Ara

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:31am

Originally posted by in:
Just wait till market evens out and tell that again. You are just making the best from current situation. If it works for you, cool.

Pretty much, i remember around when nova prime was released, was making 300-600p on each chassis, didn't last long given how the market works..but you know, same thing.

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:31am

Originally posted by in:
Just wait till market evens out and tell that again. You are just making the best from current situation. If it works for you, cool.

Some things are not meant to be repeated

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:38am

I got my Ember Prime for 1200 plat 3 years ago. Now it costs 120. Who was wrong or right in that situation. It's the markets, that's just how they work.

The initial intention of this thread was to inform players on how to trade liches, because some steps seem rather confusing. Please, do not fall into rabbit hole of arguing prices, opinions and behaviors. Thanks.

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:53am

Originally posted by in:
There is a difference when prices settle down and that 1,2k is normal price vs current situation.
Yes, you should inform players and add pricing to that list too. Aka don't spend 200pl on a regular lich when you can get it much cheaper with ease.

I asked, very nicely, to stick to the subject.

Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 11:31am

Originally posted by in:
So pricing is not a subject of a thread informing about selling/buying?

Only the market itself can be a source of the pricing, not threads or discussions, since it is free market, with no regulators. Prices are generated solely by sellers. "Sky is the limit" - the general rule of the market such as we have in the game. You can not use forum, such as this, to educate yourself on pricing. Every time you ask - you will get an answer like "its crazy, scams everywhere, just use the warframe market." Whereas warframe market is not the forum, but the market itself. Therefore it supports my point.

Originally posted by in:
I'm not sure, some guy even asked about prices above.

I did provide an answer to that request, and added the very reason of my price, that you blaming to be too steep and unfair, as a reasonable explanation. I am afraid you failed to understand it.

Originally posted by in:
And I don't feel like he should be advised to overpay

I did not make any advises on the subject of pricing. All I did is share my pricing and my understanding of it. Which is merely a data, and it is a personal decision of every person to make a judgement of that data. I do not share responsibility for the quality of that judgement, whether it is poor or smart, that the one may have. Therefore I am free of any accusations of being "misleading" in providing advises, whereas all I have provided was only data.

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Jodyxe

Nov 15, 2019 @ 12:38pm

Originally posted by in:
Why not?

Solely for the protection of the buyer themselves. One of the "helpers" on the forum might as well be the seller themselves and therefore steer the buyer that has no knowledge of being manipulated into a deal that is more profitable for the seller rather than buyer. I am not advocating for this situation to be persisted quite often, however even a slight chance of it to happen is very promising. Whereas looking at the market charts, as basic as sorted out by price from lower to higher, provides, if not complete, then at least sufficient knowledge of the pricing of certain items. Exceptions being items very rare, new or those that were unable to be listed on the market chart. Latter of which is where our case finds itself I believe. Majority of price checks for riven mods that I have witnessed so far failed to provide comprehensive advise, whereas posting such an item on the market provides it with real time comparison with other items, similar to it, under common rules of competition, excluding such human qualities as greed and avidity from the price making process. Therefore my only recommendation on pricing has always been market monitoring, and not personal wishes and ideas.

Originally posted by in:
fault of DE

I would rather disagree with that statement.Taking advantage of others is one of the pillars of humanity, rooting deep down into the fundamentals of human society. No matter how limited the system is, sooner or later advantages will be taken. Limiting further than limitations of real life will only create an utopian system that sees to exists no matter what. Every single human being in throughout entirety of history of human beings has made mistakes, and hopefully, that contributes to learning. No matter how hard you try to teach the one who does not seek the knowledge - you will fail miserably. Therefore the ones who seek the ways of saving platinum, will most surely find plenty of these. Similar as those who seek the ways of earning it with abuse would not stop their actions either. Thus we all have to watch ourselves, not DE.

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