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Walrus-Sama Oct 14, 2018 @ 5:45am
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After doing a few of these I've noticed that these missions, depending the mission type, highly favor certain frame types. And there's also frames who seem bad.

Now, I still haven't managed to do a Defection or Salvage (haven't see it pop up) so I can't really speak for that. But of the ones I did play (Survival, Defense, Interception, Excavation) I did notce a few things:

Survival:
This one seems pretty simple, probably just bring a Tank frame and/or a Nekros and that seems about it. Try not to die of boredom.

Defense:
This one seems a little more annoying. The defense target cannot regen health it seems so protecting them at all times is top priority (well, more than usual). Defense frames (Frost, Gara, etc) and Support frames (Trinity, Oberon, Harrow) seem to be pretty much required for anything over one rotation. A DPS frame would be a secondary choice for faster clearing of waves (Mesa, Saryn, Equinox, etc) it seems.

Interception:
Seems to favor Defensive, CC and DPS AoE frames, as usuall. So far this mission type seemed pretty easy to me.

Excavation:
Defensive frames are a must here, the excavators die so fast. Frost and/or Gara. Limbo is a bad choice here.


Bad frames:
- Limbo, those little drones ignore the Rift and can freely walking into Cataclysm and because they are not in the Rift (and you are) you can't shoot them.


Good Weapons:
- Arca Plasmor, for taking out drones

This is my impressions so far of what I've seen in my limited time with the new mode. There's obviously stuff I've missed so if you have any frame/weapon/whatever choices, good or bad, or additional useful information, please write them below.
Last edited by Walrus-Sama; Oct 14, 2018 @ 5:56am
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Anchored at Hell Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:27am 
Well just use a gara setup w the 2nd skill's augment mod, have a decent modded melee just for damage, and just walk whatever you want to kill while being almost invinsible. Doesnt matter level 60 or 600. But yeah, walking for 30mins+ is kinda boring
Last edited by Anchored at Hell; Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:30am
Dai Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:27am 
I have been using Khora a lot for the defensive side of the frames (and Frost) because I love the CC that I can use either with Ensare to bunch up a ton of enemies or just using my Dome build (Range/Duration /w some strength) to grab enemies from afar while also pretty much paralyzing them until they're dead or the ability itself runs out (best for Interceptions). Not to mention the healing from Venari is also pretty nice to have.

Yeah, I know some people will find Vauban more "useful" but I like Khora a lot more in that regard.
serker31 Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:27am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:
Try not to die of boredom.
That's the gist of Arbitrations.
Pakaku Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:34am 
If we're starting to talk about good weapons, do chain-beam weapons like the Atomos or Amprex hit the arbitration drones if aiming at any other enemy, or do they prevent chaining?
Wahnwitzig Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by Pakaku (camping july 7-21):
If we're starting to talk about good weapons, do chain-beam weapons like the Atomos or Amprex hit the arbitration drones if aiming at any other enemy, or do they prevent chaining?
Haven't tried those yet but Lenz works quite well. Phantasma also works but doesn't chain.
MystMan Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Defense:
This one seems a little more annoying. The defense target cannot regen health it seems so protecting them at all times is top priority (well, more than usual).

Vazarin Protective Dash can heal the NPCs and make them invulnerable for 5 secs. I always change my operator focus for this Arb mode. It's practically impossible for them to die this way.

For solo players: drop specters! They make the thing a lot more bearable. They spread some of the enemy fire unto them instead of all on you and the NPC. Ancient Infested Healer specter is eaily the one you need here. Vazarin's dash works on it too.
IAmNotMatthew Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:32am 
For Defection I usually run as Trinity with pubs, or Trinity/Gara in a premade. Defection is not about killing enemies, but getting the ♥♥♥♥♥ out alive, sure, keeping the Infested at bay is useful.
Trinity is basically a must in Defense as she heals the Operative.
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Bad frames:
- Limbo, those little drones ignore the Rift and can freely walking into Cataclysm and because they are not in the Rift (and you are) you can't shoot them.

LOL you could just take them down with your Amp while your cata is still active ...

i like those threads , spreading nonsense
DeapNight Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:54am 
How do i unlock the new mode?
Indal Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by vid23:
Oberon is probably better than trinity in this mode, thanks to his phoenix reneval augment
and ofcourse if you get the +300% strenght on him he just makes the entire team immortal

A Bless Trinity is all you need. You will never die. And neither will anyone else.

Plus free energy
Halyon Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:21am 
I've pretty much been playing Volt almost exclusively. The day he gets a 300% boost I may not use him, because the speed boost makes me hate it. I hate high power str. speed Volts...I build neutral str. for a capacitance build. CC and group protection.
Ivara Ara Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Archwraith:
Arca Plasmor is perfect for taking down drones
I'm more into using Gara for just 1 tapping those honestly.
Though that 300+ bonus for Oberon is really just lovely, unkillable against level 80+ is just hilarious.
Last edited by Ivara Ara; Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:28am
SomoneSuspicious Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸:
Originally posted by Walrus-Sama:

Bad frames:
- Limbo, those little drones ignore the Rift and can freely walking into Cataclysm and because they are not in the Rift (and you are) you can't shoot them.

LOL you could just take them down with your Amp while your cata is still active ...

i like those threads , spreading nonsense
While a bit rude... yeah you can just use your amp to destroy the drones + even if drones and shielded enemies enter cataclysm, they cant harm Limbo since he is still in the rift while they are not :)
BlueBomber Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:38am 
Just a tip the defense dude follows the host.
Jodyxe Oct 14, 2018 @ 10:15am 
Just banish defence target into rift with limbo, cast a frost globe or limbos cataclyst in the middle of the map, put mesa inside and it should work just fine.
Last edited by Jodyxe; Oct 14, 2018 @ 10:15am
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