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アゼム 2022년 4월 28일 오전 3시 59분
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The New Eximus Sucks
They took them and turned them into bullet sponges with plot armor. It completely breaks the flow of missions if you aren't running meta. Eximus is in literally ALL content, this should not happen

Edit with examples of issues:
1) The new player experience has been made abysmal. This is supported by many, many, many reports from new players on the forums and here.
2) Eximus abilities such as blaze scale exponentially and can one-shot an inaros at high levels.
3) The flow of combat is disrupted if you aren't using top-tier gear. This affects your experience when leveling or trying new equipment
4) Defense targets are affected and attempting defense modes right now is an absolute nightmare. This has also ruined leveling metas, for better or worse. Defense targets die extremely quickly to eximus
5) CC immunity has made it so half the frames are invalidated and might as well not be used
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アゼム 2022년 4월 28일 오후 2시 41분 
bubblegumrockya님이 먼저 게시:
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
People are like "just get this specific frame with this god riven and this specific weapon and it will melt them no problem". Sounds like a problem when eximus is in every single bit of content in the game. I'm not saying that I can't kill them, I'm saying it's not fun. At all.
what mastery rank are you
26 and a founder
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FÆROÜS 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 20분 
_Synt3rax_님이 먼저 게시:
FÆROÜS님이 먼저 게시:
Eh, I haven't really found them to be that much of an issue tbh. A couple bursts from my kuva zarr and they still go down pretty easy. I guess if you don't have access to more endgame weapons they could be a pretty big problem though.
Then use something other than your Braindead Meta weapon and you will quickly see how annoying the eximus enemies now are.
they're still not much of a challenge when i use the kuva karak, the default zarr, even my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ zaws and kitguns that aren't optimized to be super effective at all. Not to mention I said it would probably be an issue if you didnt have endgame weapons. stop malding because someone else isnt having the same experience you're having lol
アゼム 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 21분 
FÆROÜS님이 먼저 게시:
_Synt3rax_님이 먼저 게시:
Then use something other than your Braindead Meta weapon and you will quickly see how annoying the eximus enemies now are.
they're still not much of a challenge when i use the kuva karak, the default zarr, even my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ zaws and kitguns that aren't optimized to be super effective at all. Not to mention I said it would probably be an issue if you didnt have endgame weapons. stop malding because someone else isnt having the same experience you're having lol
There's already reports of brand new players unable to progress due to eximus. Guess new players should just git gud
FÆROÜS 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 23분 
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
FÆROÜS님이 먼저 게시:
they're still not much of a challenge when i use the kuva karak, the default zarr, even my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ zaws and kitguns that aren't optimized to be super effective at all. Not to mention I said it would probably be an issue if you didnt have endgame weapons. stop malding because someone else isnt having the same experience you're having lol
There's already reports of brand new players unable to progress due to eximus. Guess new players should just git gud
legit not what i said at all. Nice strawman.
アゼム 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 24분 
FÆROÜS님이 먼저 게시:
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
There's already reports of brand new players unable to progress due to eximus. Guess new players should just git gud
legit not what i said at all. Nice strawman.
You said "stop malding because someone else isn't having the same experience you're having lol".

That's literally what you're doing though. You can't stand that new players, and some veterans, aren't absolutely loving it like you
FÆROÜS 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 29분 
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
FÆROÜS님이 먼저 게시:
legit not what i said at all. Nice strawman.
You said "stop malding because someone else isn't having the same experience you're having lol".

That's literally what you're doing though. You can't stand that new players, and some veterans, aren't absolutely loving it like you
lmao I literally said that I can see it being an issue if you don't have endgame stuff or are new. I said that I, personally, am not having much trouble with it. I told that guy to stop malding because he got a pissy attitude over me saying i wasnt having much trouble with them, just like you are doing now. In fact I think at this point you're purposefully misrepresenting what I'm saying so you can have some kind of "gotcha" moment when it's completely unwarranted.
Manitho 2022년 4월 28일 오후 4시 41분 
ApocNizmith님이 먼저 게시:
Be thankful DE never figured out how to make enemies have any semblance of self preservation and actually take cover.
They take cover, they use squad tactics, throw grenades and even retreat, regroup and flank you. They just dont have any time to do that cause they get instanuked.
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Kaaven 2022년 4월 28일 오후 5시 13분 
Level 6 mastery rank newb here. Currently trying to get past Uranus (hehe) and still haven't unlocked many of the game features (don't have the operator yet).

Must say, those guys are really annoying now - they are way harder then they ware before, and in many missions the only hope is to run and hope they won't follow you too far (survival). And with some, like the rolling ball Grineer thingies, you just cannot escape - one even followed me right into the boss fight room :)

They really need to make the Eximus ding-dongs scale better at lower levels. Or not spawn like 3 in a single corridor, half of the time...
アゼム 2022년 4월 28일 오후 5시 16분 
Kaaven님이 먼저 게시:
Level 6 mastery rank newb here. Currently trying to get past Uranus (hehe) and still haven't unlocked many of the game features (don't have the operator yet).

Must say, those guys are really annoying now - they are way harder then they ware before, and in many missions the only hope is to run and hope they won't follow you too far (survival). And with some, like the rolling ball Grineer thingies, you just cannot escape - one even followed me right into the boss fight room :)

They really need to make the Eximus ding-dongs scale better at lower levels. Or not spawn like 3 in a single corridor, half of the time...
Yep. You're one of many reports coming in about this. Fact is, people saying "it's fine" have thousands of hours of experience in minmaxing the game and are likely using meta setups with arcanes, rivens, and other things that make their gameplay completely broken.

Even if they handicap themselves, they have the innate experience that gives them an advantage. This update has made the experience worse for you and players like you and everyone needs to recognize this.
Terratrox 2022년 4월 28일 오후 5시 20분 
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
Kaaven님이 먼저 게시:
Level 6 mastery rank newb here. Currently trying to get past Uranus (hehe) and still haven't unlocked many of the game features (don't have the operator yet).

Must say, those guys are really annoying now - they are way harder then they ware before, and in many missions the only hope is to run and hope they won't follow you too far (survival). And with some, like the rolling ball Grineer thingies, you just cannot escape - one even followed me right into the boss fight room :)

They really need to make the Eximus ding-dongs scale better at lower levels. Or not spawn like 3 in a single corridor, half of the time...
Yep. You're one of many reports coming in about this. Fact is, people saying "it's fine" have thousands of hours of experience in minmaxing the game and are likely using meta setups with arcanes, rivens, and other things that make their gameplay completely broken.

Even if they handicap themselves, they have the innate experience that gives them an advantage. This update has made the experience worse for you and players like you and everyone needs to recognize this.
Hell, I'm MR 17 and I've been playing since like 2018 and I still can't kill many eximus units. They're 2 tapping me through 1900 armor and 2k health as Atlus Prime with their normal guns. And these guys are level 30 - 50!

I ran into a level 60 Lynx eximus in the Orb Vallis and that thing had several million in shields and another several million in health. I brought in my best weapon, a Synapse that I have a decent riven for, and using all of its ammo and all of my secondary's ammo, I couldn't take off even a third of its health. I had to fly off and make it despawn just so I could finish Waverider.
sL Ug 2022년 4월 28일 오후 5시 24분 
I'm pretty sure this is their response to the new kuva bramma/ogris/zarr meta
FÆROÜS 2022년 4월 28일 오후 5시 29분 
z님이 먼저 게시:
I'm pretty sure this is their response to the new kuva bramma/ogris/zarr meta
That wouldnt surprise me. Tbh they should have just directly nerfed the AOE kuva weapons instead if they wanted people to not use them as much, because this didn't change the meta at all, those weapons are still just as absurdly strong, it just made even more balance issues for people that don't have them lol.
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Flamboyant 2022년 4월 28일 오후 6시 01분 
TaquitoBurrito님이 먼저 게시:
Kaaven님이 먼저 게시:
Level 6 mastery rank newb here. Currently trying to get past Uranus (hehe) and still haven't unlocked many of the game features (don't have the operator yet).

Must say, those guys are really annoying now - they are way harder then they ware before, and in many missions the only hope is to run and hope they won't follow you too far (survival). And with some, like the rolling ball Grineer thingies, you just cannot escape - one even followed me right into the boss fight room :)

They really need to make the Eximus ding-dongs scale better at lower levels. Or not spawn like 3 in a single corridor, half of the time...
Yep. You're one of many reports coming in about this. Fact is, people saying "it's fine" have thousands of hours of experience in minmaxing the game and are likely using meta setups with arcanes, rivens, and other things that make their gameplay completely broken.

Even if they handicap themselves, they have the innate experience that gives them an advantage. This update has made the experience worse for you and players like you and everyone needs to recognize this.

After several tries to do level cap again, i can 100% tell you that even top tier meta stuff struggles with some them, A LOT ( in fact i failed my runs with my fav gear, there are some ways that still kinda work but holy sht its much more painful even for somebody like me ).
So yeah, i wouldn't say that it's fine, it needs tweaks, like at least make em weak to toxin or something, try to kill eximus nox with a melee on steel path, shts tankier than juggernaut, feels like im tryin to kill zanuka without touching alad v.
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[livE]Unknown_Genius 2022년 4월 28일 오후 8시 30분 
Daegon님이 먼저 게시:
Rays of Apollo님이 먼저 게시:
Normally, I scoff at this sentiment because accessibility is a real issue. But how many Warframe players really call for that? Definitely not this time.

Git gud
If you normally play the game, all what people do it's nuke everything with Kuva Bramma/Zarr, and if a player it's not a high mr lvl, they just use the Ignis anyways because aoe weapons makes the game easier.
First of: I agree on everything else, the changes to the eximus units made me stay after taking a longer break, finally they´re not just another type of units that occasionally (at best) cast a AOE that knocks you down.

but tbf: I like that you can finally make a properly working hybrid build with the ignis, other than that: low MR or people that want to go farm straight beeline for Mesa or Octavia anyway, so I lost all my braincells when reading about the "accessibility" as stated by Rays, given that people will just look up the "New best way to farm/kill X", which isn´t even a issue for low MR rank given that alot of the stuff is available rather early on if you´re willing to spend the plat or join the average clan that carries you through the grind for pretty much anything
uni790 2022년 4월 28일 오후 8시 36분 
Personally I haven't had any issue dealing with them, I point Phantasma at them and they melt just like all the others, takes an extra second or so to get through their extra health bar, but that's it.
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