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EmarninE Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:34am
Mesa Arcane Recommendation AKA RIP Velocity
Title says it all.

Using two guardian now, wanted to know what u guys think.
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^3Tinkles Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:37am 
I believe they reverted the change, not sure on that though.

While I understand where they're coming from, arcanes are endgame balance, they need to balance everything else before that.

I personally use energize/grace, guardian is fine - but overkill for the most part, considering her 3.
Monarch Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:37am 
It's a bug that'll be fixed.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1070992-buried-debts-update-2450/

Arcane Change/Fix:
As often happens with Mainline - unexpected bugs popup. In the case of last week's 24.4.0 Mainline Update, we quickly received reports that Arcane Velocity was not working on Mesa's Regulators. Considering Mesa's popularity, it's no coincidence that this was noticed right away. We want to go into detail about what happened between Thursday and now, what's being fixed, and what next steps are:

From Thursday to today:
1) Between Thursday and now - we've had issues internally on intention, which are typically the hardest to communicate when we're also trying to diagnose a bug. As of now, players know we may intend to keep Arcane Velocity from working while Mesa is in Peacemaker
2) Between Thursday and now, many other prior-functioning Arcane + Abilities broke as well, leading to further confusion on intention.
EmarninE Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:41am 
Last edited by EmarninE; Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:42am
EmarninE Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:42am 
De confirmed that even it was a bug, they will keep it that way.
Shazbot! (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by MR9:
De confirmed that even it was a bug
Yeah, no, it was working as stated, at least arcane's description clearly says "on critical", not "on secondary weapon critical".
No_Quarter (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by MR9:
De confirmed that even it was a bug, they will keep it that way.
and recent update notes state that it was reverted
Originally posted by MR9:
De confirmed that even it was a bug, they will keep it that way.
Community backlash forced them to revert it anyway. It was a pointless change that did nothing to balance anything, made even worse by originally being a bug that affected ALL Exalted weapons' ability to proc ANY Arcane. They'll probably remove the interaction again at some point in the future anyway, but hopefully not until they've already rebalanced more of the actual broken stuff out there.
No_Quarter (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
Originally posted by MR9:
De confirmed that even it was a bug, they will keep it that way.
Community backlash forced them to revert it anyway. It was a pointless change that did nothing to balance anything, made even worse by originally being a bug that affected ALL Exalted weapons' ability to proc ANY Arcane. They'll probably remove the interaction again at some point in the future anyway, but hopefully not until they've already rebalanced more of the actual broken stuff out there.
yeah she is op but not game breaking as some are....
Originally posted by No_Quarter:
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
Community backlash forced them to revert it anyway. It was a pointless change that did nothing to balance anything, made even worse by originally being a bug that affected ALL Exalted weapons' ability to proc ANY Arcane. They'll probably remove the interaction again at some point in the future anyway, but hopefully not until they've already rebalanced more of the actual broken stuff out there.
yeah she is op but not game breaking as some are....
Quite powerful indeed, and if a more sweeping balance change comes she probably will get nerfed directly once again, but being line-of-sight-based she still can't hold a candle to the likes of Saryn.
Last edited by Totally Innocent Chatbot; Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:17pm
No_Quarter (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
Originally posted by No_Quarter:
yeah she is op but not game breaking as some are....
Quite powerful indeed, and if a more sweeping balance change comes she probably will get nerfed directly once again, but being line-of-sight-based she still can't hold a candle to the likes of Saryn.
Volt too, Equinox effects games way harder than Mesa and I am not looking forward to visiting Hydron when prime comes out.
^3Tinkles Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by No_Quarter:
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
Quite powerful indeed, and if a more sweeping balance change comes she probably will get nerfed directly once again, but being line-of-sight-based she still can't hold a candle to the likes of Saryn.
Volt too, Equinox effects games way harder than Mesa and I am not looking forward to visiting Hydron when prime comes out.
Eh it's for a couple of months at most then it dies back down, but I know what you mean.
No_Quarter (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:
Originally posted by No_Quarter:
Volt too, Equinox effects games way harder than Mesa and I am not looking forward to visiting Hydron when prime comes out.
Eh it's for a couple of months at most then it dies back down, but I know what you mean.
well it is nothing compared to eternity playing with plebs who spam 4 in those warframes so it's a plus! (someone please send a hammer to DE's address)
CazadorDeLobo (Banned) Mar 15, 2019 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by No_Quarter:
Originally posted by ^3Tinkles:
Eh it's for a couple of months at most then it dies back down, but I know what you mean.
well it is nothing compared to eternity playing with plebs who spam 4 in those warframes so it's a plus! (someone please send a hammer to DE's address)
Are you implying Hydron is more fun the longer it takes? Cause I disagree with that, entirely. Praise nukeframes!
^3Tinkles Mar 15, 2019 @ 5:04pm 
Well on one hand nukeframes are annoying if you're leveling a warframe or (bear with me) want the play the game. They're amazing if you want it to be over as soon as possible.

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Date Posted: Mar 15, 2019 @ 8:34am
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