God I wish there were individual extractions in *all* endless missions

[OH]

40 minutes in survival because the other 3 didn't want to extract, and this one lovely time when the 3 other guys all thought they were better than they were and refused to extract even though we were all out of life support so I lost all the drops

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Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

Publicado originalmente por Walrus-Sama:

Being able to leave in survivals yourself is only a positive feature. It should have been added a long time ago.



Utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, no one agrees to anything when entering a survival. Nothing to do with Free Speech ethier.

but there is no way for it to be done without screwing people who want to play as survival is not the same as defense

so should game
1) encourage deal and communication and social play
2) encourage solo players and trolls who would leave randomly after few minutes just so organized squads would have to go trough recruiting again

tho I heard if your client crashes you get your rewards - so I guess you can go trough task manager and turn off the game and restart it to force exit from survival.

or you can talk to people.

I think it is a great game mode and I think adding this feature would effect it in a bad way

yes except if they do it the same way they do defense you know who's extracting and can decide if there's enough people staying for you to be comfortable to continue

[Formous]

Free speech does not entail terms, however, What he is talking about is contractual langage, that all ingame agree to a set period of time, then maybe vote on staying longer or just going. Also, what he is asking for in a SURVIVAL mission is not unreasonable. In fact, I wish people who'd go at 5 would simply not play survival. They waste everyone's time. However, asking people to give time and agree on it is also a use of Free speech.

I always ask people to stay if they don't, I take away their tank support (shield/soul survivor/descrate Nekros, which I love to play) and leave them for a team that will stay. I have no time to waste on people who won't give me the time needed to get the most out of a survival.

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Publicado originalmente por Formous:

Free speech does not entail terms, however, What he is talking about is contractual langage, that all ingame agree to a set period of time, then maybe vote on staying longer or just going. Also, what he is asking for in a SURVIVAL mission is not unreasonable. In fact, I wish people who'd go at 5 would simply not play survival. They waste everyone's time. However, asking people to give time and agree on it is also a use of Free speech.

I always ask people to stay if they don't, I take away their tank support (shield/soul survivor/descrate Nekros, which I love to play) and leave them for a team that will stay. I have no time to waste on people who won't give me the time needed to get the most out of a survival.

that's one of the most selfish things I've ever read

[Walrus-Sama]

Publicado originalmente por No_Quarter:

but there is no way for it to be done without screwing people who want to play as survival is not the same as defense

so should game
1) encourage deal and communication and social play
2) encourage solo players and trolls who would leave randomly after few minutes just so organized squads would have to go trough recruiting again

tho I heard if your client crashes you get your rewards - so I guess you can go trough task manager and turn off the game and restart it to force exit from survival.

or you can talk to people.

I think it is a great game mode and I think adding this feature would effect it in a bad way

No, if someone leaves and the other people want to stay that's on them. If they stay that means they believe they are strong enough to deal with the ever riseing enemy levels, and failing to handle it is on them. If they think they cannot contiune they should also leave.

Anything beyond the first Rotation is not mandatory. If you stay longer that is on you, others should not need to stay more than they want to just because you want to.

[Walrus-Sama]

Publicado originalmente por Formous:

They waste everyone's time.

lol.

They waste like 5 minutes of your time.

What you are defending wastes potentialy hours of their time.

[Archwraith]

I see no reason why this is a bad thing, and even more why it is not a thing in the first place either.

[Grey Star, The Rival Defender]

I thought you couldn't solo extract in PoE?

[Walrus-Sama]

Publicado originalmente por Crimson Vendetta, Avatar of Pain:

I thought you couldn't solo extract in PoE?

You can now. You press Esc, hover over your name and select 'Leave Squad'. This will put you into your own solo session were you can leave when you want. Please note however, that if you are the Host, this may glitch and cause issues for the other players.

[Hoop]

Solo extract would be great. This is coming from someone who likes hour long runs.

[[DE]Taylor]

Cleaned up some derailment. Carry on!

[Mini]

This is something we should probably get in the future.

In pubs, it makes perfect sense; people have different agendas and goals. Say they finish leveling that weapon they were working on, or get the resource they needed. They shouldn't have to pull all four people out, they could just leave and let the others carry on with reinforcements.

Even in clan or recruited groups, life happens. What if someone needs to leave earlier than they expected? Should they have to lose all their rewards in a 10+ minute survival if they can't convince the team to leave? Of course not, that's ridiculous.

This question basically comes down to the fact that people always have different agendas and schedules for their missions, which don't always synch up with their teammates'. Adding this would be beneficial to everyone at least once or twice imo.

Oh and by the way, enough elitist "suck it up" talk, this is a place for ideas to be explored, not thrown into the dirt.

[Sterling]

One of those things that would just improve the game. We can leave individually in defense and interception, but not survival. Why not? All of them are endless, all of them stack the rewards, and all of them should allow people to leave individually, because there is nothing that should be forcing people to play longer than they want to.

Publicado originalmente por Formous:

Free speech does not entail terms, however, What he is talking about is contractual langage, that all ingame agree to a set period of time, then maybe vote on staying longer or just going. Also, what he is asking for in a SURVIVAL mission is not unreasonable. In fact, I wish people who'd go at 5 would simply not play survival. They waste everyone's time. However, asking people to give time and agree on it is also a use of Free speech.

I always ask people to stay if they don't, I take away their tank support (shield/soul survivor/descrate Nekros, which I love to play) and leave them for a team that will stay. I have no time to waste on people who won't give me the time needed to get the most out of a survival.

If I am playing a survival and get what I need from it in 5 minutes, I'll leave. If I get in a survival and something important happens in the real world (the one we should be prioritizing), I'll leave. If I simply want to leave because I want to, I'll leave.

In a game where you're one step away from being God Himself, complaining about people wasting your time on a survival for leaving in 5 minutes is almost ridiculous. 5 minutes is easily handled by anyone who isn't completely crippled from a car crash. Actually, even car crash victims can clear 5 minutes. And you're complaining about your time being wasted because of what, exactly? You are geared to take the heat, one missing person won't suddendly make your game a living nightmare. If you believe you're truly entitled to getting the most out of a survival, then never stop doing one, because that's how you get the most out of an ENDLESS mission.

People have the right to leave. If you believe they don't, sue them and see what the judge has to say about it, as soon as he stops laughing.

[WZ]

Publicado originalmente por Sunny Little Dragon:

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^ +1000 to every word. But no, you must play according to my terms, otherwise I hate you and you are a waste of space and ladida. It is pathetic. News flash elitekids, no one is asking for a "the mission ends for everyone when I decide" option. They just want an option to extract their own damn character. You can stay in the mission for 20 hours if you want. But yeah, those who want the option to leave are the selfish ones. You are ridiculous.

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Publicado originalmente por Walrus-Sama:

Publicado originalmente por Crimson Vendetta, Avatar of Pain:

I thought you couldn't solo extract in PoE?

You can now. You press Esc, hover over your name and select 'Leave Squad'. This will put you into your own solo session were you can leave when you want. Please note however, that if you are the Host, this may glitch and cause issues for the other players.

yes, something they really need to fix

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Publicado originalmente por DETaylor:

Cleaned up some derailment. Carry on!

Thanks mom, I love you. P.S. that joke you left on my harrow thread was PRIME dad joke material