Is there any point to building a Dry Dock in the Dojo?

[Kuroko]

As far as I can tell, everything you can do in a Dojo Dry Dock you can do in a Relay.

In fact, to me it's actively disadvantageous, because if you don't have a Clan Dry Dock then the 'Return to Dojo' pause menu option returns you to your Orbiter. One click, one loading screen, rewards claimed. If you have a Clan Dry Dock then you can't return to your Orbiter directly and can't claim rewards, which is really annoying if you're, for example, farming void traces and opening relics.

[Donitsi]

I'm confused. Are you saying that rewards received in RJ missions are not in your inventory until you also leave Dojo? That shouldn't be the case. Everything should be received the moment a Railjack mission is complete and you continue to next one or leave RJ altogether.

[Zorlond]

I recieve rewards just fine. I do the mission, then go to navigation (right behind the pilot seat) and select my dojo (or another mission), and bam, the mission summary comes up and I get my rewards as the Dry Dock comes into view outside.

[Security Cam #7]

Pretty sure you cannot research sigma weapons in a relay

[Illusive Soul]

why not ? if i dont feels like be with alot of people,i go to my own Dojo Dry dock.

[Kuroko]

Originally posted by Donitsi:

I'm confused. Are you saying that rewards received in RJ missions are not in your inventory until you also leave Dojo? That shouldn't be the case. Everything should be received the moment a Railjack mission is complete and you continue to next one or leave RJ altogether.

Okay, my mistake, I just tested it, you do receive the rewards correctly if you go to the Dock or Relay (I'd still much rather have a return to Orbiter option), but you're incorrect about continuing to the next one. If you continue directly to another mission, all the rewards are carried over to the next mission's reward screen.

After two void storm missions I received 20 and 40 void traces. If I then went to navigation on my Railjack I was not able to use any of these traces to upgrade relics. I have to go to a Dry Dock or Orbiter to do that.

[Kuroko]

Originally posted by Spooky Fish:

Pretty sure you cannot research sigma weapons in a relay

Okay, I'm just seeing all these research options, I just didn't know what to look for. Thanks for the information.

[Maya-Neko]

Originally posted by Kuroko:

After two void storm missions I received 20 and 40 void traces. If I then went to navigation on my Railjack I was not able to use any of these traces to upgrade relics. I have to go to a Dry Dock or Orbiter to do that.

That behavior is just how the game handles rewards and not really unique to RJ missions.

[Hapxier]

You're not missing much by not getting the Sigma series of parts. They're worse than virtually any random piece of loot you'll find of the same tier, and in some cases even the MK III Sigma can't beat a MK I piece of loot. Sigmas have some of the worst stats, can't be infused, and have no bonus modifiers.

[Basho]

Originally posted by Kuroko:

In fact, to me it's actively disadvantageous, because if you don't have a Clan Dry Dock then the 'Return to Dojo' pause menu option returns you to your Orbiter.

this wouldnt even be point of consideration if all orbiter features were available in the dojo. something i hope will eventually be implemented.
i would love to have an ops section in the dojo where you essentially have your orbiter right there, either as one large special room, several smaller, or just as functional decoration items that can be placed (foundry, mods station, etc).

[Security Cam #7]

Originally posted by Hapxier:

You're not missing much by not getting the Sigma series of parts. They're worse than virtually any random piece of loot you'll find of the same tier, and in some cases even the MK III Sigma can't beat a MK I piece of loot. Sigmas have some of the worst stats, can't be infused, and have no bonus modifiers.

Sigmas are the weapons most people don't bother with researching because of statements like yours and then they come to the discussions complaining that railjack is BS because they cannot finish one mission on saturn proxima because their starting railjack with MK1 gear from earth proxima gets obliterated.

[Donitsi]

Originally posted by Kuroko:

... but you're incorrect about continuing to the next one. If you continue directly to another mission, all the rewards are carried over to the next mission's reward screen.

After two void storm missions I received 20 and 40 void traces. If I then went to navigation on my Railjack I was not able to use any of these traces to upgrade relics. I have to go to a Dry Dock or Orbiter to do that.

This "feature" is not only in RJ but also in normal Endless missions (Interception, Survival, Defense etc) It sucks but for one reason or another loot is moved in your inventory after exiting these missions.

[Hapxier]

Originally posted by Spooky Fish:

Sigmas are the weapons most people don't bother with researching because of statements like yours and then they come to the discussions complaining that railjack is BS because they cannot finish one mission on saturn proxima because their starting railjack with MK1 gear from earth proxima gets obliterated.

Alas, I cannot say anything worthwhile about the Sigma series, because I never found anything worthwhile in it before I found something better as a random drop. Admittedly, this could well be because I got quite a bit of railjack loot before I ever built my own, plus I topped out my railjack well before the big rework. If the Sigma series was improved in the rework, I never had a chance to see it.

To me, the final nail in the Sigma series' coffin was the fact that it took three days to research each tier. It should never take more time to get a piece of starter equipment than it does to go out and loot a better one. The only time I invested in a Sigma series part was for the new plating component, and the Mk III Sigma plating I worked for was blown away by my first MK I random plating drop. This isn't subjectively terrible, it's objectively terrible. My experience thus allows me to make only one judgement about the Sigma series, and it's that Sigmas are weak, take too long to acquire from scratch, and are not worth the investment in time and resources that could be spent on any other piece of random loot.

There is only one scenario I can imagine where Sigmas might be useful, and that's in trying out different weapon archtypes. However, here especially, the total lack of bonus stats means that Sigmas will under perform, leading to the exact scenario you describe- people coming on the forums and complaining that "X is too weak," when it's not the weapon archtype that's the problem, it's the Sigma stats that are holding it back.

Basically, Sigmas need a rework to give them some sort of advantage. Even something as simple as making them cost regular planetary resources instead of railjack-specific items would give them a couple niches to fill, allowing them to get a leg up on the initial hump, as well as allow testing weapon archtypes without a severe opportunity cost. However, as things currently stand, a Sigma part will only eat valuable resources people need for good equipment.

All that said, there is one piece of equipment that cannot be looted- the Ordnance. Right now, if anyone wants anything better than the default Tycho Seeker, they need to have access to a clan's dry dock.