Riven question

[Saitama]

Is -recoil a positive or a negative?I got an opticor riven with CC CD and -REC

[Saitama]

Also is -zoom a negative?

[Das Big Hippo]

I believe -recoil is good. If I remember correctly that means the gun will move less when you shoot it. And -zoom is also a positive thing in my eyes at least because I am terrible with aiming guns that are zoomed in far.

[Saitama]

Originally posted by Flapepe:

I believe -recoil is good. If I remember correctly that means the gun will move less when you shoot it. And -zoom is also a positive thing in my eyes at least because I am terrible with aiming guns that are zoomed in far.

Then it's a positive and will not benefit the CC and CD right?

[Huillam]

Originally posted by Dréz:

Also is -zoom a negative?

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Riven_Mods#Attributes
According to the wiki it is.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

boy - is as in less just like 1 - 1 = 0 same goes for stats - recoil = less recoil cmon man XD

[Saitama]

Originally posted by ⛥⸸CorruptedPumpkin⸸⛥:

boy - is as in less just like 1 - 1 = 0 same goes for stats - recoil = less recoil cmon man XD

The question was if a negative that makes the weapon better counts as a positive,therefore harming the positive stats such as Critical Damage and Critical Chance.

[Pakaku]

It's the amount of recoil, so -recoil means less screen shake. I'd rather rename it to "stability" and go with +stability for less screen shake, but whatever

Whether it's a positive or a negative depends on the weapon and your comfort level. Some weapons have practically no noticable recoil, so the riven wouldn't add very much extra recoil. Some other weapons with high recoil fire slow enough that the recoil "resets" on your next shot, like a lot of sniper rifles, so extra recoil would be irrelevant on them. Still comes down to comfort, though. I always preferred the Vulkar Wraith because it has practically no recoil.

The Opticor fires very slowly, so there would be plenty of time for the recoil to reset. If your riven had +recoil, it probably wouldn't matter much. Probably the same for the Vandal, unless you maybe have ungodly-amounts of fire rate modded on

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Dréz:

Originally posted by ⛥⸸CorruptedPumpkin⸸⛥:

boy - is as in less just like 1 - 1 = 0 same goes for stats - recoil = less recoil cmon man XD

The question was if a negative that makes the weapon better counts as a positive,therefore harming the positive stats such as Critical Damage and Critical Chance.

no cause recoil doesnt have anything to do with damage XD

[Pakaku]

Originally posted by ⛥⸸CorruptedPumpkin⸸⛥:

Originally posted by Dréz:

The question was if a negative that makes the weapon better counts as a positive,therefore harming the positive stats such as Critical Damage and Critical Chance.

no cause recoil doesnt have anything to do with damage XD

Well, it kind of does, because if high recoil means you're missing more shots than you could be landing if you had less recoil, your overall DPS is decreased

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Pakaku:

Originally posted by ⛥⸸CorruptedPumpkin⸸⛥:

no cause recoil doesnt have anything to do with damage XD

Well, it kind of does, because if high recoil means you're missing more shots than you could be landing if you had less recoil, your overall DPS is decreased

yes but it doesnt affect the damage and most weapons dont need any sort of - or + recoils cause most weapons dont have any

[Basho]

just to clarify on the zoom question:
-zoom means the zoom level will be reduced.
it is entirely personal whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.
less zoom means wider field of view, but it also means less precision (since you aren't zoomed in as much).
so it is up to you to decide if you want that or not.

as for -recoil (lower recoil), i wouldn't put it on priority since, as pakaku mentioned, recoil impacts opticor to a rather small degree due to its low rate of fire.

i think the exilus weapon slot can accept recoil mods as well, so for weapons that do benefit from lower recoil, that is one way to lower recoil without stealing damage potential.