Am i stupid?

[CONGRATU BLOODY LATIONS]

First, im a noob. And, wanna hear my story?

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

So here is my story

Is it wrong to put orokin catalyst on regular ignis , kohm and twin kohmak ?

When i ask bunch of veterans (MR 20++) in chat "what weapon should i buy and install catalyst+formas?"

They answered
-Kuvas
-Primed weapon

AND if i ask
"hey is this weapon good? "
They said
"trash, kuva bramma better. I don't even bother crafting it. I threw them away "

THEN i said

OK, maybe i dont even need to buy weapons . I will only craft when i have a for kuva's variant <- at this point i was so stupid. I was MR4

And because of that i walk my a** up to MR7 with the frickin braton with only 30 slots and i tried conquered starchart with struggle, and i was like wanna cry if i faced enemy ranks 40 or above cause my braton cant do anything.

I ask them what to do ,and they answer

"YoU pRoBaBLy dOnT kNoW hOw tO mOds"

What can i do with frickin 30slot braton and no potato? Even standard ignis with only 30 slots + polarity issue just barely can handle rank 30 enemy. (i tried myself)

And after all, i courage myself to claim my very first potato and install it on regluar ignis. I ask them about my configs, and what? They insult me, laugh at me and said there is ignis wraith why bother installing potato to regular one.

I was like, yes there is better version, so i need to struggle even more to ger MR9 with those tickling weapon?

After that, my ignis is just barely capable of handling high-risk index so i tried kohm and once again i installed potato.

The result? Those 2 weapons makd my frame life easier. Now i can took down rank 60-75 enemy with only regular koh (tbh a player called me dumb bcs i installed potato on regular kohm not kova kohm) . IF i continue following their rule, maybe i already uninstalles the game because 30slot+0forma braton cant even stand a chance.

So, message from a newbie like me :
Do what you want, use what you like, buy what you like. Because other people's opinion may not be always fit to you.
Nevermind, nobody hears a newbie

Goodluck tennos

[Shakoris]

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

You mean in game or in public chat? Cause in public chat... Man... Are we playing the same game with all the elitist censorship garbage going on?

[Jordan_Peterson]

Shakoris původně napsal:

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

You mean in game or in public chat? Cause in public chat... Man... Are we playing the same game with all the elitist censorship garbage going on?

[Blari]

just ask what weapons are meta at the moment not what weapons are "good" i. i get new players asking me and honestly i usually tell them to just use what they like but as soon as they hit MR 8 grab the fulmin.

[an entire Roman legion]

Shakoris původně napsal:

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

You mean in game or in public chat? Cause in public chat... Man... Are we playing the same game with all the elitist censorship garbage going on?

what has the one thing to do with the other?

[DonnyGuitar]

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

So, message from a newbie like me :
Do what you want, use what you like, buy what you like. Because other people's opinion may not be always fit to you.
Nevermind, nobody hears a newbie

Goodluck tennos

That is the standard opinion, but when someone ask a question like that regarding a fairly rare resource, no matter how they phrased it, it is sound advice. The only weapons worth putting catalyst's on when you are still getting stronger and those end game/meta weapons.

catalyst or forma on anything else is more for your own entertainment, and there is nothing wrong with that. But it totally isnt the best advice for someone asking for honest advice.

[Tabloid tuesday]

₸ | Blari původně napsal:

just ask what weapons are meta at the moment not what weapons are "good" i. i get new players asking me and honestly i usually tell them to just use what they like but as soon as they hit MR 8 grab the fulmin.

also good to grab any hidden caches in mission when offered

[✪ Wtf_Noodles]

literally just use what you want people that use the kuva bramma are usually cringe anyway

[BlueBomber]

This game kinda better solo when you just start, clear starchart, craft new stuff, quest, chat turned off ofc, no fuss no muss
public game is just watching eye rape map wipe effects while running to extraction, zero immersion and offputting when youre still learning the game.

[Blarker]

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

First, im a noob. And, wanna hear my story?

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

So here is my story

Is it wrong to put orokin catalyst on regular ignis , kohm and twin kohmak ?

When i ask bunch of veterans (MR 20++) in chat "what weapon should i buy and install catalyst+formas?"

They answered
-Kuvas
-Primed weapon

AND if i ask
"hey is this weapon good? "
They said
"trash, kuva bramma better. I don't even bother crafting it. I threw them away "

THEN i said

OK, maybe i dont even need to buy weapons . I will only craft when i have a for kuva's variant <- at this point i was so stupid. I was MR4

And because of that i walk my a** up to MR7 with the frickin braton with only 30 slots and i tried conquered starchart with struggle, and i was like wanna cry if i faced enemy ranks 40 or above cause my braton cant do anything.

I ask them what to do ,and they answer

"YoU pRoBaBLy dOnT kNoW hOw tO mOds"

What can i do with frickin 30slot braton and no potato? Even standard ignis with only 30 slots + polarity issue just barely can handle rank 30 enemy. (i tried myself)

And after all, i courage myself to claim my very first potato and install it on regluar ignis. I ask them about my configs, and what? They insult me, laugh at me and said there is ignis wraith why bother installing potato to regular one.

I was like, yes there is better version, so i need to struggle even more to ger MR9 with those tickling weapon?

After that, my ignis is just barely capable of handling high-risk index so i tried kohm and once again i installed potato.

The result? Those 2 weapons makd my frame life easier. Now i can took down rank 60-75 enemy with only regular koh (tbh a player called me dumb bcs i installed potato on regular kohm not kova kohm) . IF i continue following their rule, maybe i already uninstalles the game because 30slot+0forma braton cant even stand a chance.

So, message from a newbie like me :
Do what you want, use what you like, buy what you like. Because other people's opinion may not be always fit to you.
Nevermind, nobody hears a newbie

Goodluck tennos

The way I've always looked at it, in regards to putting lots of forma / potatoes into a weapon, is that for the most part all this really does is add damage, not change how it feels to use the weapon. This isn't universally true in that some weapons feel like entirely new weapons with attack speed or fire rate, and stances, but that is my general rule of thumb at least. So to me, it only means that all that effort I put into a weapon is to make it kill high level enemies like it kills low level enemies.

So while leveling a weapon up, if I feel that it actually feels awesome to use, even if I'm fighting low level trash, I'll consider putting resources and time into it. It's why I potatoed my Twin Kohmaks and bought a riven for them, and then went out of my way to farm a maxxed arcane pistoleer to sustain them. Because they felt fun to use.

If you have a weapon, even if there are better weapons out there, but you like using it, then there is nothing wrong in investing in it. Obviously, by the time you hit late game you would likely want to swap to a different weapon to be using, but getting there without investing any forma or potatoes in any weapon is hardly feasible. Some weapons have a lot higher potential ceiling than others, but if you like using it and can see yourself continueing to use it then invest in it.

Do your best to rank up the nightwave, buy extra potatoes from the shop with the credits it gives you, and then you will feel less bad about potatoeing lower tier weapons as well.

[Katzh]

I made runs with mk1 weapons one time, was bored..

you can use whatever you want. then of course if you find a weapon you like, look for it's variants, kuva, prime, wraith, whatever..

kitguns are very good and viable too (I play mostly with kitguns in steel path)

That said, get a weapon you like, try to get a good riven. experiment different modding. try it with different warframes. enjoy the game.

Edit: always keep a very good and reliable weapon in your inventory, so you won't be stuck in your progress.

[BananaBadman]

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

Thanks for all the supports. You guys are real warframe masters!
Now i learn how to mod, read the weapon direction is it status,crit or both and i will stay in Mr8 for a while till i get my equip capable of doing harder missions (I've unlocked all star chart)

But my main problem is, sometime i can kill very high level enemy like 80 or 100. But i can't survive any idea?

You have a few options for survivability. For most people, modding adaptation and vitality/umbral vitality on their build is enough. Adaptation by itself is pretty powerful.
If you need more then that, the rolling guard mod can give you invincibility when you dodge periodically. You can take advantage of this to get your shields back whenever they get broken. Against high level enemies, you must have shields on to take advantage of the shield-gating mechanic. (Health cannot take damage until a few seconds after all shields have been depleted)
Your other option is to pick warframes with high damage reduction abilities or some kind of immortality/invincibility function.

[Donitsi]

BEAN PRIME původně napsal:

So here is my story...

I grind my teeth together so hard that sparks fly everywhere when I witness this in the Region or Help chat. I may be veteran with +5000h gaming experience but I know what weapons a player below MR15 can and can't use.

Even worse when a new player (Below MR5) asks which one is better idea, Karak or Braton and somebody who has peanut for brain says "Neither, get yourself Ignis Wraith/ Kuva Bramma/ Tiberon Prime". That wasn't even what the player asked for... and I have to try help the new player little bit in private chat.

[Slyvanarchy]

goryachiy kartofel původně napsal:

First, im a noob. And, wanna hear my story?

Disclaimer : warframe community is the best online game community I've ever met. No joke, only maybe 5% is toxic kids.

So here is my story

Is it wrong to put orokin catalyst on regular ignis , kohm and twin kohmak ?

When i ask bunch of veterans (MR 20++) in chat "what weapon should i buy and install catalyst+formas?"

They answered
-Kuvas
-Primed weapon

AND if i ask
"hey is this weapon good? "
They said
"trash, kuva bramma better. I don't even bother crafting it. I threw them away "

THEN i said

OK, maybe i dont even need to buy weapons . I will only craft when i have a for kuva's variant <- at this point i was so stupid. I was MR4

And because of that i walk my a** up to MR7 with the frickin braton with only 30 slots and i tried conquered starchart with struggle, and i was like wanna cry if i faced enemy ranks 40 or above cause my braton cant do anything.

I ask them what to do ,and they answer

"YoU pRoBaBLy dOnT kNoW hOw tO mOds"

What can i do with frickin 30slot braton and no potato? Even standard ignis with only 30 slots + polarity issue just barely can handle rank 30 enemy. (i tried myself)

And after all, i courage myself to claim my very first potato and install it on regluar ignis. I ask them about my configs, and what? They insult me, laugh at me and said there is ignis wraith why bother installing potato to regular one.

I was like, yes there is better version, so i need to struggle even more to ger MR9 with those tickling weapon?

After that, my ignis is just barely capable of handling high-risk index so i tried kohm and once again i installed potato.

The result? Those 2 weapons makd my frame life easier. Now i can took down rank 60-75 enemy with only regular koh (tbh a player called me dumb bcs i installed potato on regular kohm not kova kohm) . IF i continue following their rule, maybe i already uninstalles the game because 30slot+0forma braton cant even stand a chance.

So, message from a newbie like me :
Do what you want, use what you like, buy what you like. Because other people's opinion may not be always fit to you.
Nevermind, nobody hears a newbie

Goodluck tennos

imo, this game has a good leveling system, ive been playing for years and this probably will give some newbie quite an advice i guess
to get mastery rank, u need to craft alot of weapons and warframes and using them until they got max rank, so as u progressing the game u will find what kind of weapons u like and what kind of warframes u like too

yeah the kuva lich,prime,wraith or even prisma version of weapons are better than the og one, but to consider it a good weapon, u need to somehow used the og weapon first to see how to use it and do u even want to use that kind of weapon, whats the point of op weapons if u dont like using it anyway lol

just do whatever u want, if u like using certain weapons/warframe, just build it
if u get the upgraded one, then build it from zero again, its not like its that hard getting orokin cell/reactor/forma anyway, just need a little bit of patience and hard work

i ALWAYS put orokin reactor on all of my warframes, and everytime i got new warframes, i expand my warframe slots, never sold any of them (except when i get the prime version), and then build the prime version from scratch, give em another reactor and start forma-ing again from zero, its really worth it

the only exception is when u have friends that can do the job for you to grind, yeah u can skip all those potato/forma things cause all u need to do is just stand still and loot,because most of MR 20+ can actually solo nearly everything

[Yuki]

First off: welcome to Warframe!
Second: MR is not a sign of veteran-icy? Sadly. Ive seen MR30's without any clue about the game. (Hint: they often have >50% usage of frames like Inaros, Rhino or Wukong too :P )

So i go by what i suggested in a similar thread here already:
Build everything. Test it. Level it to 30. Then decide if you like it and if so, invest in it.
Of course i have to MENTION that investing into something you will probably skip for a "better version" later might be a bit of a waste.
But know what? Them laughing at you potato-ing a ignis just shows they are the real noobs.

1. Potatoes and forma are easy enough to come by. If it makes your life more easy- its even more effective. Its a matter of minutes. Thats where those noobs fail usually going all "uH no WanT tO tHrOw My PrEcIoUs PoCkEt MoNeY aT dE". Well, you dont have to.
Just do keep in mind that you may want to throw it away later- so maybe still dont go all out on forma on it many times over. One or two? Ya, do it.

2. Some of those weapons that have a "better" version in truth have a "different" version. Panthera and Panthera Prime would be such an example where i would even advice to keep both.

3. If its fun its exactly what you should do. Have fun with the ignis? Go crazy on it!
(And ask me once you got the required MR for the ignis wraith. Ill pass a bluprint to you ;) ) Its a game ffs. And having fun and not even noticing that you accidentally also just cleared the star shard while doing so is better than burning out on a way too early lich grind. Besides those also are only fun once you got a few proper weapons and frames. Take your time ;)

4. Laughing about a build is again a sign of noobs. And most times ive seen that they also dont really know anything about proper building - but just went with what an often less than decent youtuber has shown in some outdated video. Go figure. And dont trust anything you see on such channels blindly. The vast majority does it for click bait and has no clue about the game. Well, maybe some, a bit more than you, but not that much.

Talking should be done instead of laughing. Criticism, constructive. Suggestions. Many people though lack the knowledge for that. Heck ive seen people going all "LOL" on some of my builds because they where different from "the meta"- just to ask in the next mission "WTF- how the HELL did you do that?".

"Is that weapon good"- the answer for the vast majority of weapons is yes. You just need to know for what. And given that your choices are limited in the beginning- thats exactly what people should tell you - the for what ;)

So- ask. Asking is a sign of not being stupid. Just new. And we all where there! Even if it was many years back and yes- i can not really grasp all of the problems you may face at first. But i can try.

[CONGRATU BLOODY LATIONS]

Thanks for all the supports. Right now I'm on MR12 and still with my kohm+twin kohmak combos. And j potatoed my dread coz i love it looks and i use it a LOT for spy mission.