Kuva Bramma vs Proboscis Cernos

[21's bitch]

Which one would you say is better and why?

[-LordDarky-]

imo proboscis cernos is better. bcs the abillity of grouping up enemy is rlly good and after some amount of time in an endurance run, the dmg of primary isnt rlly that good. but if ur not going into long runs and only interested in doing short mission like maybe extermination or capture i would go for kuva bramma.

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

I think the Bramma scales a bit higher due to the crit, so higher overall damage.

But the Proboscis Cernos has built-in viral, which is nice, can reach 100% status, and has better AOE because of the grab/pull.

I like them both and switch back and forth every now and then.

[Sceles]

Bramma has vastly higher damage and it's instant. It also works better with Primed Fulmination, which is nearly redundant on P Cernos because it doesn't increase its pull range.

[Sceles]

Publicado originalmente por Senor Avocado:

Cernos all the way, it’s a better cc and viral applier for my melee

It's good if you specifically want the pull, but Proboscis Cernos is not very good for applying viral because it's a slow firing weapon and only its delayed explosions proc it. With something like Kuva Nukor or Phantasma you get instant 10 stacks and both also have innate radiation for CC.

Panzer also applies viral and I think if you're meleeing then it's waste not to use Panzer, because you would be healing it constantly with Pack Leader thus keeping Viral Quills + Hunter Recovery up at all times(VQ+HR healing doesn't function in larvae form). And the extra survivability those heals provide helps massively when meleeing. Unless you shield-gate, ofc.

[Yuki]

Without any rivens:
Both the Bramma and the p-Cernos can be made to kill everything up to SP easily. In SP the cernos might be the better choice for its grouping ability, which lets you instantly kill whole even toughest groups with a single follow up of a volatile glaive then, and thus from a safe distance. The Bramma may need to expend its whole "magazine" there.

Before that - and thus likely where you are now and for some while still- the bramma is the "faster" choice because of instant explosions, while the p-cernos has a slight advantage by its CC ability that grabs enemies over a larger distance even through walls. Primed Firestorm on the Bramma does bring it to that range, but its a rather expensive primed mod.

Bramma might be the more easy to "build" from the start. You only need a single lich (but may have to do a lot of "larva runs" to get the right weapon), while the cernos requires...uhm... iirc 2 other cernos? To be crafted before that. Also: The Bramma can go up to level 40. Which means an investment of 5 forma. But to make a weapon pack a punch you will need to invest forma on both anyways. However for the Bramma that can mean that you can probably skip the potato for now until you indeed got a bunch of fully upgraded primed mods.

The p-cernos does however also shine in the hands of specters as a pro on its side. It adds some CC to them.
Thats what i use the p-cernos for mostly. While the Bramma is just collecting dust ;)

If you just want giant explosions everywhere you may also want to take a look at the Kuva Ogris. Im using that over the Bramma every time. 3 rapid firing rockets with incredible large explosions and- with the napalm mod- fires everywhere.

[Flamboyant]

if u have primed sure footed - bramma spam
if u dont - proboscis cernos

[Kawalorn]

Publicado originalmente por Sceles:

Proboscis Cernos is not very good for applying viral because it's a slow firing weapon and only its delayed explosions proc it.

I just tested in simulacurum, and the tentacles do proc status, including Viral. It's why I think it's so good, they can stack multiple heat, viral or corrosive procs before the arrow even explodes, increasing it's damage quite nicely.

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Publicado originalmente por Kawalorn:

Publicado originalmente por Sceles:

Proboscis Cernos is not very good for applying viral because it's a slow firing weapon and only its delayed explosions proc it.

I just tested in simulacurum, and the tentacles do proc status, including Viral. It's why I think it's so good, they can stack multiple heat, viral or corrosive procs before the arrow even explodes, increasing it's damage quite nicely.

yeah probo cernos is pretty amazing at status spreading and have a cc ability, nukor is better but has no cc or grouping ability which kinda limits it

[21's bitch]

Appreciate all the answers guys.

I actually have both but just couldn't tell which one is superior.

I guess they're at very similar levels, so it's preference until steel path where the cernos surpasses the other thanks to its CC.