Vastilok vs Redeemer prime?

[Midas]

I'm deciding if I want to farm for a Vastilok from Baro, but since it's another 'shotgun' style gunblade, I'm wondering if it's even worth the trouble. I already have a potato'd redeemer prime.

[Sceles]

It's trash.

[Kameh]

good luck stripping armor with the Redeemer

[Pakaku]

As far as I’ve heard, it’s less good, but a very good Shattering Impact armour stripper. Comparable to the Redeemer in a general sense, but not as good overall to the Prime

[TheTertius]

In the state the vastilok is right now, it is utter useless except for pushing the MR....

[Midas]

So is the appeal of the vastilok basically just the fact that it gets physical damage types on the ranged attack for proccing stuff like Shattering Impact?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Kameh:

good luck stripping armor with the Redeemer :happyelf:

I have no problem killing grineer in steel path with my redeemer prime, though. How much better does the Vastilok do here?

[2GenL]

Might be worth for some quick MR points?

[At-Las OS]

redeemer for general play, sarpa for armor striping

[Pakaku]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย At-Las OS v/7.5:

redeemer for general play, sarpa for armor striping

Sarpa has a burst count of 5, and Vastilok has a multishot of 9. If Shattering Impact can be dealt nine times per shot, then the Vastilok is an upgrade

[leqesai]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Pakaku:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย At-Las OS v/7.5:

redeemer for general play, sarpa for armor striping

Sarpa has a burst count of 5, and Vastilok has a multishot of 9. If Shattering Impact can be dealt nine times per shot, then the Vastilok is an upgrade

Shattering Impact is an extremely inefficient method of stripping armor. The only enemies worth stripping armor have a ton of it. While you're not wrong, building for Shattering Impact is universally a waste of time IMO. Either bypass armor altogether or use 100% armor strip methods.

[Midas]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Pakaku:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย At-Las OS v/7.5:

redeemer for general play, sarpa for armor striping

Sarpa has a burst count of 5, and Vastilok has a multishot of 9. If Shattering Impact can be dealt nine times per shot, then the Vastilok is an upgrade

While I haven't bothered with shattered impact on either weapon, since as mentioned it's not very efficient, the Sarpa puts those 5 shots on a single target, whereas a shotgun is only going to catch that same target with all pellets at point blank.

Personally, I don't take gunblades for point-blank, it defeats the purpose of having a gun as a melee weapon, and no gunblade I've used outperforms any of my favored melee weapons at that range.

[Flamboyant]

Gunblades have been gutted since stance changes for me, i wouldn't recommend using any of em,u gonna need a very niche setup to use em effectively and even then there are much more practical single target weapons

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

The only reason to get this weapon really is to get it for mastery so might as well get it if haven't done it yet.

[21's bitch]

Vastilok is the best armor stripper with Shattering Impact.

Otherwise, as others have said, Redeemer Prime is the better weapon.

[iced mcfurry]

You're still gonna want the mastery even if it isn't good

[Midas]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย iced mcfurry:

You're still gonna want the mastery even if it isn't good

Yeah, but there are other things I can get first for 500 ducats. I'm not lacking mastery junk at the moment.