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Peek A Boo Jul 13, 2021 @ 3:10pm
Too much RNG on kuva and tenet weapons.
Kuva and tenet weapons should have fixed bonuses instead of rng based 25-60% bonuses. This game has enough rng as it is and its irritating to have to farm multiple weapons to make one good if you have as bad luck with bonus rolls as i do.

As it is now, instead of feeling happy getting a weapon i farmed i feel disappointed and not even want to continue farming when i get that trash tier 25% bonus. Cut down the rng abit, please and thank you.
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Sceles Jul 13, 2021 @ 3:17pm 
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Valence_Fusion

You technically only need one at 55% + one with any %.
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Peek A Boo Jul 13, 2021 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Sceles:
https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Valence_Fusion

Doesnt fix the problem in the least. Just makes you farm some more. My kuva zarr took nearly 100 larvling kills so im not looking forward farming another zarr to upgrade, its mind numbingly boring and kuva weapon farming takes twice as long as tenets to begin with.
Pakaku Jul 13, 2021 @ 3:42pm 
Can't really say that I notice any difference with the bonus percent range, The weapons usually feel fine and I always forget to check anyways. I think the actual element makes more of a difference than the percentage, and the amount is just optional maximization.

Last I went on a Kuva run for a Hek, the thrall hunt didn't take that long. Tenet takes even less time. The big time-waster is forcing us to go through the G Void just to check what weapon will drop in the first place.
LegacyXI Jul 13, 2021 @ 4:42pm 
Instead of farming for them you could just trade for the lich/sister you want that has the weapon. Just like most things in this game it is always easier to just buy it from other players then to try and farm it yourself.
Fake Jul 13, 2021 @ 7:54pm 
When RNGsus fails you, turn to Lootcifer.
Monarch Jul 13, 2021 @ 8:10pm 
It's a feature that's literally only matters to min-maxers.

And min-max'ing requires work.
You want more power? Work for it.

Or just be rich and buy it from someone else.
Astori Heichalot Jul 13, 2021 @ 9:59pm 
Originally posted by Peek A Boo:
Kuva and tenet weapons should have fixed bonuses instead of rng based 25-60% bonuses. This game has enough rng as it is and its irritating to have to farm multiple weapons to make one good if you have as bad luck with bonus rolls as i do.

As it is now, instead of feeling happy getting a weapon i farmed i feel disappointed and not even want to continue farming when i get that trash tier 25% bonus. Cut down the rng abit, please and thank you.

if you formaed maybe 3 or 4 with fully ranked mods,
those base % elemental damage doesnt give you a whooping difference.
primed mods + riven (proper) do give big difference
Peek A Boo Jul 14, 2021 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by P.P.Cutter ♥:
It's a feature that's literally only matters to min-maxers.

And min-max'ing requires work.
You want more power? Work for it.

Or just be rich and buy it from someone else.

I dont mind the work, i like farming stuff. What i dont like is farms that can screw you over even if you succeed. What i originally liked about warframe and its farming aspect was the fact that items had set stats. When you got the item it was as good as it gets par mods. Unlike so many games that have multiple different values that can roll in in wide range of stats that its pretty much impossible to get good/perfect item.

RNG in moderate doses is fine but when you add layers upon layers of it the game becomes a lottery. I hate it when ingame systems are made just player retention in mind and damn the player experience.
Monarch Jul 14, 2021 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Peek A Boo:

I dont mind the work, i like farming stuff. What i dont like is farms that can screw you over even if you succeed. What i originally liked about warframe and its farming aspect was the fact that items had set stats. When you got the item it was as good as it gets par mods. Unlike so many games that have multiple different values that can roll in in wide range of stats that its pretty much impossible to get good/perfect item.

RNG in moderate doses is fine but when you add layers upon layers of it the game becomes a lottery. I hate it when ingame systems are made just player retention in mind and damn the player experience.

Like I said before -
The % of damage type is only important to Min-Maxers, if you're not trying to be the very very very very very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ best on everything that you have, it won't matter to you. The amount of OP mods we have right now, makes the performance of the weapons negligible.

And if you're really that bent on a number, then as all things in Warframe goes, down on luck? Don't wanna farm? RNG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you? Trade market is free to use, and platinum is grind-able!

While personally I do dislike RNG in general, I understand and accept the layers of RNG Warframe has, because DE spent months developing U30.5, and all it took for us vets, were less than a week to farm / gain / and complete all that there is to do from U30.5. Any less RNG, and we'd be twiddling our thumbs post day 2.
Trickster Jul 14, 2021 @ 2:17pm 
i dont care one bit about no fixed bonus elemental, why am i gettin' consecutive duplicates when they a year ago claimed to have fixed it?
Yep i kept getting tenet detron so i fusioned fo 60. And kept getting detron ffs
Monarch Jul 14, 2021 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Trickster:
i dont care one bit about no fixed bonus elemental, why am i gettin' consecutive duplicates when they a year ago claimed to have fixed it?

Did you abort the mission and retry the moment you saw what the weapon was?
bubblegumrockya Jul 14, 2021 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by P.P.Cutter ♥:
Originally posted by Trickster:
i dont care one bit about no fixed bonus elemental, why am i gettin' consecutive duplicates when they a year ago claimed to have fixed it?

Did you abort the mission and retry the moment you saw what the weapon was?
I'm pretty sure they re-added duplicates in a row when they added the picture telling you what weapon it was. Or maybe that was for you to be able to select it twice in a row? (kill lich and then get the same weapon again). Not sure though.
Trickster Jul 15, 2021 @ 1:26am 
Originally posted by P.P.Cutter ♥:
Originally posted by Trickster:
i dont care one bit about no fixed bonus elemental, why am i gettin' consecutive duplicates when they a year ago claimed to have fixed it?

Did you abort the mission and retry the moment you saw what the weapon was?
nope! ran to extraction as fast as my Khora allowed me to
Clickshe Jul 15, 2021 @ 5:47am 
So, hold on... You actually did kill the kuva larvlings to make them liches and then kill them? Because if you are doing that, you can only blame yourself from the amount of work you have done.

Dunno how many I had to skip just to get kuva grattler, kuva zarr and kuva hek but I do can say that each took more than 8.
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