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[Crazy Nick]

Taddy Mason님이 먼저 게시:

Posts like these always seem to bring out the people who don’t understand people are/can be different from them. They give off: “I did it easily, therefore you should be able to as well” vibes pretty much no matter what the topic is. If someone struggles with something and speaks about it, a flood of these people seems to appear without fail.

Whether I found it easy or not, I wouldn’t presume to think everyone else should have a similar experience with it as me. That seems so close minded and arrogant.

To the OP, what about it sucked butts? The instant death? The weird gimmicks? Something else?

I personally didn’t like it for the same reason I don’t like the stealth based mastery rank tests or the Octavia “boss fight” where you have to jump around on the correct platforms to play her anthem. It feels so out of place with the rest of the game. The whole game seems designed to make you feel like a badass and gives you plenty of ways to save yourself from danger or failing whatever the task is as hand (including the supposedly tough higher level content) and then every so often you come across a gimmick that requires you to play it differently than you do the rest of the game.

I’d dislike these gimmicks less if they had any practical application outside the small segments of the game they’re in. You never need to use stealth, or hop on specific platforms or avoid an instant kill boss attack anywhere else and it makes the experience feel that much more jarring and out of place when you encounter it. It’s a real “what the ♥♥♥♥ is this ♥♥♥♥?” feeling whether you’re able to complete it or not.

It's the "My skills don't suck, this boss sucks" mentality. People don't want to admit their faults and improve themselves to overcome those faults. That's what annoys some people who make posts saying that this boss was easy. It's not about being narrow-minded or arrogant. When someone complains about something that requires wits or platforming instead of going in guns blazing, it just make them look foolish. Spy Missions have PLENTY of Stealth and Platforming sections in them, so complaining about a Boss having platforming elements is ridiculous.
With people that complained about Wolf being a bullet sponge and Infested Boss treating Arlo's Flame like an annoying fetch quest, we finally end up getting a boss that's completely skill based. No Weapon grind or Mods required. Every hit you send or receive is your fault. And people still complain. If things are bugging out on the other hand, then criticism of that is justified.

[dhyan]

friendly tip try ze[hyr and the parkour mods makes its realy easy since the mods etc will help still.

just run around pick up the shards trow and keep distance.
you can allways jump off to get a safe respawn on top of the higher placed spot.

[Spookymancer]

I thought it was fun. Reminded me of some of the Bowser fights from the super nintendo days.

[DLOZanma]

Why are you all assuming OP is talking about the bossfight and not everything before it?

[dhyan]

DLOZanma님이 먼저 게시:

Why are you all assuming OP is talking about the bossfight and not everything before it?

dince you can google the spots in less the 2 min and the boss fight you cant do by jus googling alone

[Alucard †]

To be fair the clue searching in this area was more annoying than the fight itself.

[Adeptguy]

⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟님이 먼저 게시:

To be fair the clue searching in this area was more annoying than the fight itself.

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[Security Cam #7]

Taddy Mason님이 먼저 게시:

Posts like these always seem to bring out the people who don’t understand people are/can be different from them. They give off: “I did it easily, therefore you should be able to as well” vibes pretty much no matter what the topic is. If someone struggles with something and speaks about it, a flood of these people seems to appear without fail.

This point would be valid if this bossfight required from you more than bullet jumping up or to the side.

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

Taddy Mason님이 먼저 게시:

You never need to use stealth

Nuh uh. Wrong.
Tip: Simaris standing.

This is false. You can do it without stealth, but it will be harder because the target will be moving. That's when simaris trap thingies come into play.

[Adeptguy]

Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit님이 먼저 게시:

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

Nuh uh. Wrong.
Tip: Simaris standing.

This is false. You can do it without stealth, but it will be harder because the target will be moving. That's when simaris trap thingies come into play.

Smh... Shows how much you play the game by your response... I dont know if I should even bother with you.

[Security Cam #7]

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

Nuh uh. Wrong.
Tip: Simaris standing.

This is false. You can do it without stealth, but it will be harder because the target will be moving. That's when simaris trap thingies come into play.

Smh... Shows how much you play the game by your response... I dont know if I should even bother with you. [/quote]
Nah, I just completely forgot you get bonus points for stealth scanning any entity because I have enough hours to be over it and never have to bother with doing it again.

[Adeptguy]

And more? This isnt the only thing you can do better while in stealth, thats the first one yes. There are a couple more.

Also, what do you mean "never have to do it again"? Pointless, you can grind rivens, endless sink. You have to get all the frames again for Helminth and a lot of em are in his shop.

[Adeptguy]

You were the one who said that you never need to use stealth, not me friend.

[Security Cam #7]

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

And more? This isnt the only thing you can do better while in stealth, thats the first one yes. There are a couple more.

Also, what do you mean "never have to do it again"? Pointless, you can grind rivens, endless sink. You have to get all the frames again for Helminth and a lot of em are in his shop.

Getting all frames is optional. Grinding rivens is optional. You don't "have to" get all the frames for helminth. Only those you want abilities from.

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

You were the one who said that you never need to use stealth, not me friend.

Because it's true. You don't need it, using it provides a bonus but you do not need to use it in order to gain standing.

[Adeptguy]

Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit님이 먼저 게시:

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

And more? This isnt the only thing you can do better while in stealth, thats the first one yes. There are a couple more.

Also, what do you mean "never have to do it again"? Pointless, you can grind rivens, endless sink. You have to get all the frames again for Helminth and a lot of em are in his shop.

Getting all frames is optional. Grinding rivens is optional. You don't "have to" get all the frames for helminth. Only those you want abilities from.

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

You were the one who said that you never need to use stealth, not me friend.

Because it's true. You don't need it, using it provides a bonus but you do not need to use it in order to gain standing.

Are we really going to do this? To be clear, you are saying you dont need to use a mechanic in warframe to accomplish something because you can accomplish the same result even if it goes slower/less efficient. Realise for a moment what you are saying right now. I hope I dont have to spell it out AGAIN.

Hint: warframe is a game all about doing things optimally.

[Crazy Nick]

DLOZanma님이 먼저 게시:

Why are you all assuming OP is talking about the bossfight and not everything before it?

Because there's nothing before the boss fight that we aren't already familiar with. Finding clues is handled the same as the previous instances. Complaining about finding clues ONLY in Act 5 is kinda silly.

Smelly Fish in a Hazmat Suit님이 먼저 게시:

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

And more? This isnt the only thing you can do better while in stealth, thats the first one yes. There are a couple more.

Also, what do you mean "never have to do it again"? Pointless, you can grind rivens, endless sink. You have to get all the frames again for Helminth and a lot of em are in his shop.

Getting all frames is optional. Grinding rivens is optional. You don't "have to" get all the frames for helminth. Only those you want abilities from.

Adeptguy님이 먼저 게시:

You were the one who said that you never need to use stealth, not me friend.

Because it's true. You don't need it, using it provides a bonus but you do not need to use it in order to gain standing.

You have to use Stealth to complete Spy missions. Otherwise, you run the risk of a countdown timer. There's no in-between for that. Either you intentionally let yourself be caught as soon as you enter the room and the data gets destroyed, or you choose stealth and avoid detection. Getting caught midway at least gives you the chance to recover the data. And you can't exactly blitz through all Spy rooms either. There are a few, but they are never all in the same level.